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Eterno HC
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Eterno HC

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Is this going to be a new game mode or are the mechanics for normal ironman players be changed to include trading and group minigames?

Please make it a new game mode (with it's own highscores) if it is not! Adding trading and more group elements only devalues the standard game mode even more. If trading is allowed between ironman accounts, we'll definitely see multi-accounting, or more unfair advantages between players, starting on ironman which is not what the mode is about.

If these are allowed in ironman, DXP weekends should also be allowed now because there is no more reason not to have it. Previously, I've heard that we can't have it because it's an unfair advantage for players.

But now you add trading to a mode that is about playing SOLO! Get your **** together - please!

07-Jan-2018 17:03:17 - Last edited on 07-Jan-2018 17:03:43 by Eterno HC

Pride of
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Here is what I think they should do to control the entering/leaving of people in groups

1. current ironmen cannot enter, if you want to be able to join group ironmen you need to chose that option from character creation, and they have their own highscores even if they arent in a group they are still included

2. once a "group ironman" you can choose to join any group as long as you dont have any tradable item with you
so people cannot have alts collect resources then join the group to trade and leave
and yes, people WILL make a group ironman with 1-2 alts but what can u do about it, their choice, wont be as efficient as playing with other real people though

3. group size should be limited up to 7 people and there is a limit to how often one can enter/leave a new group say once a month

4. bank space isnt shared, neither are resources, quests, or xp, only "group" thing about it is you can trade them

thats all i can think of right now
will be interesting to see a 7 group work to collect resources so that 1 guy can max in the shortest time as an ironman

07-Jan-2018 18:43:45

SkweeBean
Apr Gold Premier Club Member 2017

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When I first heard them state this in the year ahead video I was like DoubleuTeeEff!!.
I agree so much with you Eterno HC.

I think this is a horrible idea period. The whole POINT of this game mode is doing it alone, a singular challenge.

This is really really sad to see as if this were to happen there is like, zero difference between and Ironman account and a Normie account. It would only be a matter of time before we got our own little 'iron-only grand exchange'

HUGE thumbs down :(

If you want trading get a normal account. Its not hard, and its not like we weren't all warned of this during account creation. like really sorry but epic fail @Jagex

07-Jan-2018 21:28:02

Verterrs

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Pride of said:
Here is what I think they should do to control the entering/leaving of people in groups

1. current ironmen cannot enter, if you want to be able to join group ironmen you need to chose that option from character creation, and they have their own highscores even if they arent in a group they are still included


Another option could be a permanent switch from original IM mode to group IM mode (like a switch from IM to normal account) without the ability to switch back. This way, the original IM that want to stay pure IM can do so, and those that do want to join a group do not have to create a new account.

Anyway, there should be a distinction between the two modes: original IM and group IM.

07-Jan-2018 22:58:52

Ainkan
May Gold Premier Club Member 2018

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Please remove this feature Jagex, i don't like the fact that Group ironmen can trade between each other. the whole point was to do things on your own and that's why i created my ironman account.

it's a rather dumb idea to be honest and defeats the purpose of this game mode.

huge thumbs down.

the group dg is ok and i'd like to group boss with other iron men so that's ok as well (the big bosses)

08-Jan-2018 09:35:43 - Last edited on 08-Jan-2018 09:36:56 by Ainkan

StylezDeLuxe

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Exactly no support I hope they look to all the existing ironmen and see what they think. This update will devalue everything we've worked for SOLO if little communities are allowed to trade between themselves.

08-Jan-2018 14:08:45

Serene Steel
Sep Gold Premier Club Member 2015

Serene Steel

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StylezDeLuxe said:
Exactly no support I hope they look to all the existing ironmen and see what they think. This update will devalue everything we've worked for SOLO if little communities are allowed to trade between themselves.


WHOA WHAT?!
You mean to tell me that other peoples gameplay makes mine completely and utterly worthless?

Oh jeeze, all these years spent playing video games, a WASTE!

Experiencing things for myself, all of those acheivements are WORTHLESS because somebody else gets to do them differently!





... It's not a big deal.

Seriously.

You have to create an entirely new account to even consider using group ironman.
The Steelweaver

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08-Jan-2018 15:20:55

Sinsun1
Oct Gold Premier Club Member 2015

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Well shit guys, we should roll back every bloody update that has EVER made skilling easier (especially for Ironmen since it's unfair they can use something like Artisan's workshop which never existed when *I* created this account back around 05 after a year on my original in 04).

This bloody Burthrope/Taverly nonsense where low level mining, smithing, hunting, fishing, etc are all soo close to a bank??? We need to SCRAP THAT IMMEDIATELY. It makes low level skilling take less time than hours putting in to run up to Varrock SE mine, down to Lumbridge furnace and back up to Varrock East Smithy and Bank to create and bank your armour and weapons.

Don't get me started on challenges, you get FREE XP for training your skill on a specific day a challenge is given to you? Where the hell was this when *I* started my account?!?!?!?

/sarcasm


Times change. Also this group ironmen mode sounds like it'll be different (and thus different leaderboards) so cool your jets, your precious hi-scores won't be affected, it's just being created for people who want to play a game with others with 0 interference of bots, GE and other things on the trading economy. A closed economy where you rely on each other to train, boss, and work together to play the game with no interference from non-legit playing. (and bots still affect prices on GE, so yes, those prices are non-legit).

I think it's cool they're doing Group Ironmen and I really hope they do it right. I know I'll make another account if I have to specifically for this mode. Because I like the idea of a small community that relies on each other to help one another out and everything they get is earned by that group.

- One person can mine/smith and be in charge of everyone's gear.
- One person can fish/cook and be in charge of everyone's food.
- One person can woodcut/firemake/fletch and be in charge of arrow supply and fire for cooking.

There's other possibilities, and I like it. :) :)

09-Jan-2018 12:12:46

gago
Sep Gold Premier Club Member 2013

gago

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I hope it's going to be a separate game mode as the fun part of ironman is to not be able to trade!
Bosses are already fine for ironmen as they are. And for DG, i haven't yet decided if i like the idea of groups for ironmen. Would be fun though :)

So please, anything you do, keep trading away from ironmen!
Thanks

10-Jan-2018 15:34:11

Serene Steel
Sep Gold Premier Club Member 2015

Serene Steel

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gago said:
I hope it's going to be a separate game mode as the fun part of ironman is to not be able to trade!
Bosses are already fine for ironmen as they are. And for DG, i haven't yet decided if i like the idea of groups for ironmen. Would be fun though :)

So please, anything you do, keep trading away from ironmen!
Thanks


You'll need to create a new account to access Group Ironman mode (it'll be an option similar to selecting Ironman and Hardcore Ironman mode) and their hiscores will be entirely separate.
The Steelweaver

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10-Jan-2018 15:40:23

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