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Qwis7
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Tenebri I give up some times I just do not know anymore just let me quote my text and hope you do understand it.
"Its sad that there is no facepalm smiley on this forums."

You basically give a answer to a question that no one asks.



I did say "Not all skill need to be 120."

You did say "yes they do" so show us why prayer should look like and why it needs to be 120?
If you say full confidence all skills needs to be 120 we can all assume that you have the ideas ready.

28-Oct-2018 07:02:39

Tenebri
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Qwis7 said:
Tenebri I give up some times I just do not know anymore just let me quote my text and hope you do understand it.
"Its sad that there is no facepalm smiley on this forums."

You basically give a answer to a question that no one asks.



I did say "Not all skill need to be 120."

You did say "yes they do" so show us why prayer should look like and why it needs to be 120?
If you say full confidence all skills needs to be 120 we can all assume that you have the ideas ready.


and i said that is a topic for not this thread. if you want to see my reasonings go to the thread that is about all skills for 120. ill find the qfc

here you go

read this thread. its where i also talk about all skills 120, which is not what this thread is about

however you say i should tell you what 120 prayer looks like? that has nothing to do with whether they should be 120 or not. thats defining the skill .

i can agree with having 120 prayer (or all skills)
but then asking what 120 prayer (or all skills) should look like. is completely different subject at hand.

so again i ask where did i say what 120 prayer should look like?

i havent at all. and you claimed i have. and all i did was say no i havent. and you go off on a tangent.
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28-Oct-2018 19:32:56 - Last edited on 28-Oct-2018 19:39:29 by Tenebri

UrekMazino
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I think 120 prayer should be one of the last combat skills to go to 120, so when adding a new prayer book, it could actually be impactful like how curses were a major upgrade to normal prayers. As for skilling prayers, would probably be more suited for < lvl 99 since prayer is a combat skill afterall and getting 120 can be a little expensive for some. l||l Modest Skillers T7 Citadel | Skilling clan recruiting players. l||l
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29-Oct-2018 11:45:53

Peaky
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Okay. One glaring problem with bumping Prayer to 120: It is F2P, and while leveling Prayer has become much more reasonable in F2P, it is still expensive, and money-making isn't even remotely close to money-making in P2P. What about pure F2P players? Do they get a sudden disadvantage against rich members who can afford 120 Prayer in PvP? That hardly seems fair. This applies to all combat skills by the way. Replace "expensive" with "crap xp rates in F2P" and the situation is otherwise the same.

One solution to this would be to place a functional cap of 99 on combat skills in F2P worlds.

Okay, I've gone on long enough about that. I support seeing another Prayer book. We have 3 forms of Magic, and 2 Prayer sets. Having a third seems reasonable to me. Why not a Guthix-themed one? Sure, he's dead, but all of us are the one-and-only World Guardian so it isn't a stretch to believe we have the ability to tap into some power that Guthix gave us. (SPOILER: We already have in a way) It can easily be based around balance. You get a strong, beneficial effect, but it is offset by a negative. For example: Greatly increasing your damage, but also greatly reducing your defense rating at the same time. They can be extremely useful, but you have to use them wisely. There's a catch to all of them.

And it doesn't have to require Prayer levels beyond 99! Lunar spells don't require 100+ Magic, nor do Seren spells. It's a separate set of Prayers. Maybe make it level 65+ or something. Lots more people can make use of it. Gating such Prayers to the players who went way beyond 99 of their own volition, is silly. They knew that there was nothing beyond 99. They shouldn't get to arbitrarily turn that around because they conveniently won't have to rush to keep up with the growing demands of PvM groups and clans once such an update drops. Yeah, it'll be 120 eventually. But I think it is still a bit too soon. Give it a few more years. And PLEASE, consider the possible downsides. Please.
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31-Oct-2018 11:03:22 - Last edited on 31-Oct-2018 11:05:51 by Peaky

UrekMazino
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Peaky said:

I don't really think f2p are going to be really concerned about going for 120 prayer since there's no benefit for them, getting true max is their own choice.

As for Guthix prayer book, it wouldn't really make sense thematically, since a prayer is to ask a God for their blessing. Can't really pray to a dead God, tapping into his power isn't quite the same as making a prayer. Of course, if this does become a reality, I'm not going to go around and complain hurr durr muh immersion is broken, I'm just saying that it would be a little weird.

As for the need to go over 99, its not really the same as different spellbooks. Ancients and Lunars are spellbooks that fill a different niche (Ancients have aoe spell with special effects, Lunars is more focused on combat utilities like veng and distruption shield, and on skilling) whereas curses were more or less a a straight upgrade from normal prayer. And this is reflected in the level req of the prayers, the highest prayer in normal prayers is level 70 whereas curses go up to level 99. So I think it would make sense for a third prayer book to scale up to 120.

Personally, I'd be more excited if the third prayer book is related to Elder Gods, whether is Xau-Tak or Jas. It'd make sense too since each prayer book and God is a tier above each other: Normal prayer (Saradomin is a Young God, tier 3), Curse (Zaros is a Transcendent God, tier 2), and Primordial prayer (?) (Elder Gods are tier 1).
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31-Oct-2018 11:50:28

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