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Ahura
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I doubt that scammers are really getting away with what they're doing. They are either not (properly) reported or what you call scamming isn't considered scamming by Jagex (you stated somewhere that you think begging is a form of scamming).

If we assume scammers are indeed not properly dealt with by Jagex, then that should be fixed first before even considering what new punishments should be implemented. But then again, I don't think players should be additionally punished after serving his or her punishment (mute/ban). If the punishment is over then the punishment is over and that means you're free.
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20-Sep-2017 21:02:13 - Last edited on 20-Sep-2017 21:03:31 by Ahura

Whatusaytome

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This isn't a 'new' punishment, it currently exists for Bots if they do not get banned. as I stated in the OP to this thread. This isn't an 'additional' punishment either, as it is meant to completely replace the voice lock for 'scamming.' IMO verbal offenses should get a voice lock and trade offenses should get a trade lock.

If you wont take my word for it, like I said, go see for yourself and send in some reports, make a list, ask who cares if you report them, ask if reports have ever impacted their decision to scam or not, ask if they will come back even after they get muted. They will likely admit it themselves. Learn it from somebody other than me.
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20-Sep-2017 21:31:07

Ahura
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Now that you say that, doesn't sound unreasonable to replace muting with that trade lock. Though you can wonder if the scam was actually pulled off by trading and not by letting the victim drop their stuff.

What would be ideal is to ban players if they actually did scam, and do a lesser punishment (mute or trade lock) if they attempted this. But does Jagex bother looking at each and every individual case of scamming and see whether it happened through trade or drop, that's the question. If they don't then there is no real reason to introduce trade locks as a punishment for breaking the item scamming rule.
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21-Sep-2017 16:22:14

Whatusaytome

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The majority of all scams happen through trade, or combat lures. Drop scamming hasn't been effective since they removed the Alt-f4 scam in like 2006. except for the firecracker thing a couple years ago.

a Trade Lock basically makes them ironmen until its served. personally, like the Trade lock on bots, I want the similar message displayed when trades are offered.

with the bots example, they get this message

I think they should keep that message, but for scam offenses make it "i cannot do this because I have been caught scamming" and I would say that humility would urge them to learn the lesson quicker, making them less likely to reoffend.

I do not support going straight to banning, but I do support bans if the case is severe enough, or if they are frequent offenders.

As for Jagex and their review process, I've found it lacking myself, part of the reason for the other thread in my signature.
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21-Sep-2017 16:49:31 - Last edited on 21-Sep-2017 20:05:30 by Whatusaytome

Mrs†Vuls
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Support, even though i agree that life lessons can be learnt from getting scammed i too think scammers should face a punishment similar to what you're suggesting. Simple life

01-Oct-2017 13:33:29

Clone11117
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id rather trade lock myself so no 1 can steal my stuff if my account gets hacked again.

i prefer ge over trading with other players to begin with.

but yeah i support your ideas.
now if only i could make my personal gear untradeable. id rather have it be destroyed than stolen.
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23-Oct-2017 21:33:34

Wagsii
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A temporary trade ban, if it includes the Grand Exchange (which it should), is brutal. A temporary chat ban doesn't really do anything, you can still get by playing the game without talking.

And that's why I think this is a good idea. lol
Permanent trade bans might be a bit too much, but getting increasingly longer ones every time you get caught scamming sounds good.
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02-Nov-2017 00:01:51

Whatusaytome

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Wagsii said:
A temporary trade ban, if it includes the Grand Exchange (which it should), is brutal. A temporary chat ban doesn't really do anything, you can still get by playing the game without talking.

And that's why I think this is a good idea. lol
Permanent trade bans might be a bit too much, but getting increasingly longer ones every time you get caught scamming sounds good.


Exactly. Thank you guys for the support! :)
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