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It would be nice to be able to delete a thread by the creator, or at least edit the thread title. I don't think this needs much explanation. I've accidentally made a 2nd thread for my clan, because I thought I made a typo in the title and couldn't edit it, but Runescape's forums automatically added a character in the name that I did not notice at first. The forum is for my clan, and now when some people look it up, they accidentally respond the the wrong forum post. I wrote in the first box where to find the actual forum and this is the wrong one, but not everyone has the 2 seconds to spare to read a sentence. Is there anyway we can make this happen? I'm surprised it hasn't already been implemented.

An option Edit a Thread Title or delete a whole thread would both be sufficient.

07-Feb-2018 15:48:26

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If you happen to make a mistake in yours thread title
Forum Help
is the place to be to ask for a change of title. There's also the option to ask for a thread to be move or locked, locked can be requested when it's your own thread or it is breaking the rules of the Code of Conduct.

Deleting a thread is out of the question as it may be used when someone is breaking the rules, used for investigation.

07-Feb-2018 17:34:38

Blackwing
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2_Tron said:
If you happen to make a mistake in yours thread title Forum Help is the place to be to ask for a change of title. There's also the option to ask for a thread to be move or locked, locked can be requested when it's your own thread or it is breaking the rules of the Code of Conduct.

Sure, but having to go post a request for a thread title change, and waiting for an fmod to be available to do it while you could easily do it yourself, is like if you were a grown-up in real life, who knows how to tie his shoes, and you had to ask another grown-up to tie your shoes. Is it really necessary to do it that way? We can already edit our post contents, so why not titles too?
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07-Feb-2018 22:44:19

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I don't see any reason not to allow thread title changes for the same reason posts can be edited. One stipulation to prevent abuse could be that once a moderator edits the title, it can no longer be edited by the author (this is similar to the fact that a post edited by a JMod can no longer be edited by the poster).
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08-Feb-2018 01:05:49

Draco Burnz
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2_Tron said:
If you happen to make a mistake in yours thread title
Forum Help
is the place to be to ask for a change of title. There's also the option to ask for a thread to be move or locked, locked can be requested when it's your own thread or it is breaking the rules of the Code of Conduct.

Deleting a thread is out of the question as it may be used when someone is breaking the rules, used for investigation.


This^.

No support.

Leave the modding tools to the mods plz.
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08-Feb-2018 03:21:32

Draco Burnz
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Spearmint30 said:
I don't see any reason not to allow thread title changes for the same reason posts can be edited. One stipulation to prevent abuse could be that once a moderator edits the title, it can no longer be edited by the author (this is similar to the fact that a post edited by a JMod can no longer be edited by the poster).


Jmods can indeed edit their own posts.

So this is false.


Misunderstood.
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08-Feb-2018 03:22:39 - Last edited on 08-Feb-2018 03:23:34 by Draco Burnz

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Blackwing said:
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There are two major security risks involved when you start to enable the ability to edit thread titles for everybody.
Once enabling editing thread titles players could have access to the backside of the software of The RSOF something nobody likes to see happen, to see happen future security risks emerge from creating this ability for players.
Just prepare yours thread thoroughly and 95% of the playerbase have no issues with theirs thread title.
A bigger risk and more severe problem, even bigger in numbers / amount, are 'scammers'.
We all by now know that scammers are text-editors who complete their scams most of the time by changing texts in a way that before you are even awake enough and alert you already missed the swift edits they do use.
Combining post editing with thread title editing will open a wide variety of options to let flourish forum-scamming in a way that may damage The RSOF more then you'd hoped to prevent from happening.
It doesn't care how many Moderators you have on watch, scammers pretty much outnumber Moderation easily and keep Moderation too busy so others may fully complete their scams.

Better just leave the things as they are as it is the best option we have for all of us, Jagex & The RuneScape Community.

08-Feb-2018 08:28:49

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This suggestion has been around for a very long time and if it has not been implemented yet, it is because it would be immensely abused and serve no purpose. As it is very well known, the risks of allowing someone to delete a thread and/or edit a title are just too dangerous to handle. For example, what if someone creates a thread just to bash people and immediately delete it? What if someone edits their title to target innocent people by being offensive to them? These kinds of things are uncontrollable.

On the other hand, I can see something like this functioning properly, to some extent. First, I do not see a need to delete a thread as it can just currently be locked. Now, if deleting a thread would free up some forum space, then this would indeed be useful. However, this is a feature that has to be fully integrated into the Forums code and this means that they have to be completely revamped, something that has not been possible to achieve.

Second, the ability to edit a thread’s title should only be available and reserved for seasoned forum members. That is, members of the community with an implacable forum history and no signs of disruptive behavior or rule-breaking. This would definitely ease some of the issues presented with editing a title. It is understood that these individuals would not risk their accounts with unusual behavior and that is why this may work. This is the only one I would support some sort of ability to edit my thread’s title.

08-Feb-2018 16:07:58

Miles Prower
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Prohibiting deletion is understandable for audit purposes, but I would see no problem with allowing legitimate users to lock their own threads with no reversal other than from moderators. Once locked, the thread can float to page 50 and eventually off the forums. Abuse concerns addressed. ;)

Editing thread title is no different from editing posts, so I really don't see the issue with this either. How would it be a security concern? What makes a title any different from a post? I only see convenience, but if abuse is really a concern, title changes could be throttled similar to bumping.

A general comment about potential abuse, though: no, it cannot be ruled out; however, we're talking about a very small minority here. Pre-requisites such as membership and in-game total level requirements can definitely deter those wishing to abuse the system. Having said that, the idea of abuse is thrown around a lot, with no consideration for the fact that self-locking and title changes works well on other boards - especially busy ones.
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08-Feb-2018 17:41:28

Wynd
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Miles Prower said:
Editing thread title is no different from editing posts, so I really don't see the issue with this either. How would it be a security concern? What makes a title any different from a post? I only see convenience, but if abuse is really a concern, title changes could be throttled similar to bumping.

In order to read a thread's contents, I have to see the title first, meaning, everyone else sees the title first. For me to notice a post, I have to look for the thread, click on the title and go to the specific post. Every forum user is exposed to a thread's title, not so much to a post. This is why it would be a security concern. A disruptive user can edit a thread's title and direct its insults to a Forum Moderator, for example and every person looking at that specific forum's page can notice the obscene intentions.

08-Feb-2018 19:29:15

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