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Miu

Miu

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Jagex is currently working on initiatives to make the early game more accessible to new players.

Over the past couple weeks, there have also been debates on nerfs for certain items for their usage in PvP scenarios. Nerfing something in a PvP scenario affects how these items are also used in PvM.

In OSRS, we also have a growing number of weapons with mechanics that differ between the main game and in PvP scenarios. The most well known of these are the Blowpipe, that has a reduced weapon speed in PvP. We also have the Trident of the Seas and its variants that cannot be used in the wilderness, period.

It's my belief that if something is too overpowered to be used in PvP, then it makes sense that it's too overpowered in PvM as well. Likewise, if something can be used in PvM, I don't see why it can't be used in PvP. Having obscure mechanics where game behavior changes depending on whether you're in PvM or not, or nerfing items for one portion of the game while neglecting the other, is damaging to the game. It is difficult for new players to comprehend, especially if it's not clearly explained within the game itself.

Another behavior is dropping items. Outside the wilderness, dropped items last about 2 minutes, and show up to other players after about 30 seconds. Inside the wilderness, after being implemented after losing a poll in an integrity change, items now immediately show up in the wilderness. This is confusing to both new players and returning players, as this is not stated anywhere in the game, and contradicts how the game was played prior.

To sum it all up, Runescape is one game. We shouldn't have the rules of the game change so drastically between PvM and PvP. It's confusing, and it's unbalanced. If something is overpowered, then it's overpowered. It should be balanced properly to accommodate all styles of play.

Content should be properly balanced in the first place, considering both PvM and PvP. It's one game, after all.
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18-Sep-2019 23:28:49 - Last edited on 18-Sep-2019 23:57:14 by Miu

VasaTekVesp
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VasaTekVesp

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Support. Thank you. Nerf the blowpipe in PvM. I'm aware a lot of peopl use the argument that bosses have been balanced around this weapon, but that fixes another problem. That'd nerf PvM profits as well lol. Quit bitching about the problems you created by spite voting.

18-Sep-2019 23:52:13

VasaTekVesp
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VasaTekVesp

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Miu said:
VasaTekVesp said:
Support. Thank you. Nerf the blowpipe in PvM. I'm aware a lot of peopl use the argument that bosses have been balanced around this weapon, but that fixes another problem. That'd nerf PvM profits as well lol.
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Do you know how the blowpipe and Twisted Bow compare DPS-wise in Raids?
Quit bitching about the problems you created by spite voting.

19-Sep-2019 00:03:54

SirPieroQV
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SirPieroQV

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VasaTekVesp said:
Miu said:
VasaTekVesp said:
Support. Thank you. Nerf the blowpipe in PvM. I'm aware a lot of peopl use the argument that bosses have been balanced around this weapon, but that fixes another problem. That'd nerf PvM profits as well lol.
true


Do you know how the blowpipe and Twisted Bow compare DPS-wise in Raids?





depents how many people is in the raids, if you tell 7+ yes dps is diferent

21-Sep-2019 19:44:44

weston btw

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SirPieroQV said:
VasaTekVesp said:
Miu said:
VasaTekVesp said:
Support. Thank you. Nerf the blowpipe in PvM. I'm aware a lot of peopl use the argument that bosses have been balanced around this weapon, but that fixes another problem. That'd nerf PvM profits as well lol.
true


Do you know how the blowpipe and Twisted Bow compare DPS-wise in Raids?





depents how many people is in the raids, if you tell 7+ yes dps is diferent


Nope. They're pretty much the same DPS when using dragon darts just that one is significantly harder to use at maximum efficiency than the other. This is assuming a regular raid and not a 100 man scaled raid where the Twisted Bow would obviously be better.
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21-Sep-2019 19:51:53

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