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Cthris

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AttilaSquare said:

Science often claims to be objective, but science also rarely speaks clearly on ultimate things. The Big Bang is pretty mysterious. The theory of evolution doesn't give meaning to life. Science presupposes a certain account of being; it doesn't provide one.


Looking to find the second best explanation eh? ;) Knowing your love of Plato it doesn't really surprise me your ran into this problem. Personally, as a nihlist I prefer objective accounts with no meaning :P but I would also love to see how you develop your theories in respect to each factions cultural goals and values to give it meaning. (Especially Zamorak)


Roland Lyons said:
You mean like a creation story for each religion or something?

I think Attila means that he wants to develop an account for "how things are" using the universally true knowledge that has been revealed to us (ie elder gods) but not strictly that. I think he wants an element of "Why things are" (as in why 1 plus 1 equals 2, rather than what happens when its 1 plus 1)

Of course each culture values different things. A good real world example is that during the 20th century Western science and Eastern science were developing parallel ideas about the family structures of certain primates. While both accounts were objective and both sides did "good" science, the empirical data that each side came up with differed immensely. The Eastern side characterized the family power structures as much more lateral, while the Westerners characterized them as hierarchical and way more vertical.

Its interesting to note that their data reflected how each culture creates their own society, leading some to wonder if science tells us more about ourselves then it tells us about truth.

For the record, neither account of the primates in necessarily true, we still don't know which one is more true and it has everything to do with "why" things happen

10-Nov-2016 21:12:32

Cthris

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For example, the Easterns looked at the primate behavior where say one primate shared its food with another. The Easterners might look at this and say "This primate shared its food because it values communal ties" The Westerners might say "This primate shared its food because it respects authority."

Both assumptions would lead to very empirical data.

10-Nov-2016 21:16:28

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