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CD_Paladin_C
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Today we learned quite a bit in RoB, but one of the big things people are glossed over is how the Salve River barrier was formed.

We were informed that the barrier was created by Blood Rituals taught to the Temple Knights by Saradomin. We learn this in a book in the quest, which is immediately denied by Drezel, but as Drezel says himself in a previous quest.
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Servants of Saradomin are not concerned with trifling matters such as proof. We have our faith, and our faith guides us.
-Drezel, In Aid of the Myre***

As the quest progresses we're given further proof that this was the case.

Now when we think about about blood rituals, we think about a sacrifice of life having to be made. The Salve River Blood Ritual killed 6 of the 7 priestly warriors, and the final warrior, Ivandis was cursed with vampyrsm (even though we learn in the quest that it requires advance Haemalchemy and refined daeyalt).

This brings us to the big questions:

Where did Saradomin learn this stuff? This isn't exactly something you read in a book and go "Oh yeah, here's you this little ritual you can do to prevent vampyres from crossing a river that I read in this book this one time." No, this seems like something that Saradomin has had to have done at least one time in the past. What all does Saradomin know about blood rituals and where did he get them? And why the hell did Invandis turn into a vampyre?
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26-Apr-2016 09:56:37

Sepulchre
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CD_Paladin_C said:
Today we learned quite a bit in RoB, but one of the big things people are glossed over is how the Salve River barrier was formed.

We were informed that the barrier was created by Blood Rituals taught to the Temple Knights by Saradomin. We learn this in a book in the quest, which is immediately denied by Drezel, but as Drezel says himself in a previous quest.
Original message details are unavailable.
Servants of Saradomin are not concerned with trifling matters such as proof. We have our faith, and our faith guides us.
-Drezel, In Aid of the Myre***

As the quest progresses we're given further proof that this was the case.

Now when we think about about blood rituals, we think about a sacrifice of life having to be made. The Salve River Blood Ritual killed 6 of the 7 priestly warriors, and the final warrior, Ivandis was cursed with vampyrsm (even though we learn in the quest that it requires advance Haemalchemy and refined daeyalt).

This brings us to the big questions:

Where did Saradomin learn this stuff? This isn't exactly something you read in a book and go "Oh yeah, here's you this little ritual you can do to prevent vampyres from crossing a river that I read in this book this one time." No, this seems like something that Saradomin has had to have done at least one time in the past. What all does Saradomin know about blood rituals and where did he get them? And why the hell did Invandis turn into a vampyre?
Well, I'm going to say a god who travels from world to world for thousands upon thousands of years learns a thing or two.. so him knowing this shouldn't be too shocking. As for where exactly he learned it, who knows? Maybe from the Catalyst for the time he had used it? Maybe he travelled to Vampyrium at one point or another? Maybe from the Zarosians he helped commit genocide against?
As for why Ivandis turned... probably the Vyre blood used in the ritual, and how unstable it was at the time. It was unperfected.
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26-Apr-2016 10:01:39

Aig123

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I'd say it's similar to the ward in Death of Chivalry.
We needed virtuous blood to reach the wand, and so did the vampyres to reach Misthalin.

Perhaps the greater the sacrifice, the stronger the ritual, and the longer the blessing lasts.
Six priestly warriors held the Salve long enough for us to intervene and reinforce it.

26-Apr-2016 10:09:39

Blizzardy
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Saradomin is very old; Magic has been established as being capable of doing pretty much anything. Blood magic is most likely one of the ways Gods have tried to empower their own followers, in this case allowing Humans to do something that most had assumed only Saradomin himself could.

With Ivandis turning into a Vampyre, it seems like mish mash of magic and pure chance. Guile's notes say about how human blood is malleable.

26-Apr-2016 12:58:13

FuryPebbles
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When Zamorak and Saradomin took down Zarosian empire. Zamorak Cared for the army and power. Saradomin was going through Zaro's Reserachs and books. may be he the got the info from there. see told you guys Saradomin is Awsome. i love this character. there is a reason he is a god of wisdom as well. knowledge is the powerful thing in the world.



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26-Apr-2016 13:51:49

A Mighty
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This would be a good thing to explore in a Saradomin-specific quest not tied to Sir Owen..
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26-Apr-2016 23:43:06

The Mather1
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It's 90% certain to be an adaption of Zarosian magic. Probably only performed as a ritual because Saradomin didn't want to teach his followers proper Blood magic.

This is made even more likely by how The Old Blood revealed that holy water was a Zarosian invention as well.


And no, if this is explained in a Saradominist quest, it most likely will involve Sir Owen, as it pertains to the Temple Knights.
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27-Apr-2016 12:20:20 - Last edited on 27-Apr-2016 12:21:32 by The Mather1

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FuryPebbles said:
But you know what i like more than materialistic thing? KnowledGE! - tedx guy

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27-Apr-2016 20:58:49

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