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Caedo
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When I was playing KS last night, I was particularly interested in the part where the World Guardian is attacked by Sliske with The Siphon (Staff of Armadyl), one thing I thought of right away was how Sliske said he took a part of our soul. Perhaps people here have thought of it already, but what interested me was how much this was intentionally overlooked by both the player and Sliske in dialogue, albeit for different reasons from both characters.

My personal theory on this is that Sliske potentially weakened (or stole) the player's World Guardian Powers (eg. their immunity to the Gods). My theory was later potentially confirmed by Mod Raven on the recent playthrough Livestream. It would make sense for the player not to need these powers forever, especially if the Endgame is about to draw to a close, and it would also be interesting to see how the player fares learning this in FoT* 2 and in the final quest later this year.

Admittedly it's a rather weak theory, and I am grasping at straws a little, but Mod Raven's hinting during the Livestream pretty much confirms my thoughts on it. So any thoughts, anyone?
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25-May-2016 03:49:45 - Last edited on 25-May-2016 03:51:57 by Caedo

AesirWarrior
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It was pretty clear in the quest that Sliske was preparing for this for a long time. He has looked into the nature of the soul, and most interestingly how it can be transplanted. Long story short (last time I used two posts to write this) he wants our soul to be compatible with him. The entire quest was about Sliske trying to make our soul compatible with his through similar experiences, because he *needs* it for some reason. He's been trying to figure out how to make a human soul compatible with a mahjarrat.

Why would he need our soul? My reasoning is similar to yours. I believe he needs our anti-god powers for some mysterious unknown reason


Edit: @ Kastor. He said that Sliske sucked some of the player's soul, and a little extra IIRC.
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25-May-2016 03:56:03 - Last edited on 25-May-2016 03:57:07 by AesirWarrior

Caedo
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When the player says "I feel a little odd, but that's about it" Raven started laughing for one thing, then he went on to say "Only a little bit of the soul lost, only a little bit of the World Guardian essence lost".

That implies that the WG powers aren't entirely gone, but maybe weakened. But to be fair he did say that on the spot, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were gone entirely.
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25-May-2016 03:57:54

Cthris

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Thanks guys :D

Makes me wonder that if our world guardian power is attached to our soul, and when we die our soul becomes part of the anima mundi like the dragonriders predict, do you think if we actually stayed dead for once gielinor would become immune to gods again?

25-May-2016 04:18:47

Sepulchre
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Maybe he wants to be able to banish the gods, like Guthix did? With Guthix's blessing of god magic immunity, and Sliske's "mastery" of Shadow magic and overall power. Maybe he thinks he can find a way to make us into a living conduit to channel an energy similar to the barrier of the Edicts?
On the other hand, it is possible I have this backwards. Maybe he doesn't want our soul for his soul, maybe he wants it for somebody else? Maybe his "master" needs a new body, and our body needs to be more compatible to the Master?
It's so interesting to think.. why does he want us to be more like him?
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25-May-2016 11:19:57

Beowulfe
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My personal theory, that little soul slurping trick will prove to be his biggest mistake. As we lose our diety resistence, we find out the player is the avatar of the 6th elder god, and we barf lightning on sliske in the finale or something. Now that the whole WG thing won't keep us mortal now, we replace it with that 6th elder god stuff.



...just a thought.

25-May-2016 13:10:19 - Last edited on 25-May-2016 13:11:44 by Beowulfe

Voya
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During the quest it was hinted that the player character learnt something about Sliske's plan that we (as players) didn't see. Sliske said that we learnt his true plan. The world guardian seems to have an important role in this plan, and journals definitively hinted that Sliske is interested in our soul (or our world guardian powers).

So if we truly knew everything, wouldn't we have known what Sliske was about to do? Then we would have known that we were walking into a trap, and we didn't seem to resist it too much. We also gave a sightly arrogant comment when Sliske found out ("What's the matter, Sliske? Not what you were expecting?" ) .

This is just a crazy theory, but what if our character intended Sliske to take a part of their soul, or did something beforehand that meant Sliske couldn't take it completely? Or made it less "compatible"? Did our character outsmart Sliske in more ways than we thought of?

I doubt our character is that clever, but it's something to think about.
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25-May-2016 14:38:01 - Last edited on 25-May-2016 14:39:40 by Voya

Beowulfe
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Also, the one thing I thought of was that if Sliske's jimmies were rustled, and now feels the need to kill us, he would have removed most of our soul, or all of it, he was clearly looking for something.

My guess? We can hang up our "world guardian" title...(Hopefully, this means we get a cooler nickname and some upgrades)

29-May-2016 03:47:14 - Last edited on 29-May-2016 13:45:46 by Beowulfe

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If you read The Divine Delusion and the last bits of Sliske's Ramblings, it's obvious what what going on in the quest. Sliske wanted our soul, but he needed to make our soul more compatible to his. I was confused before because it seemed like Sliske wanted to fuse our soul with his, and that made no sense until you explained it. I'm too Unaligned to have a forum signature.

29-May-2016 05:35:17

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