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Balustan

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I think he in the lore at least is a very good character, his personal appearances haven't quite done it for me and a lot of his he is pure evil traits are still there. I also think in an attempt to make him a more nuanced character they have went with very obvious in your face attempts to make him seem good while he is a much more subtle character than that in terms of traits.
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18-May-2016 14:54:57

Lethalintent
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His character from a narrative standpoint, I like. From interacting with him, I do not like him. He's boring and overall too quick to anger for his own good, much like his dark blue best friend.

I believe he's honestly trying with his philosophy. But fails to see the glaring flaw.

Forcing chaos to hopefully incite progress on unwilling people who are content with their lives is no different from an evil act.

Chaos will always end in a loss, the loss might not be the majority in the overall outcome but it is an eventual self destructive philosophy that I refuse to condone.
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18-May-2016 16:04:20

Hazeel

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I appreciate that they kept his sense of humor, and I agree with his philosophy fully. There is no consequence...those that are truly weak have forfeited their right to exist and the world has no need for them.

Given the nature of the philosophy, I would consider him both an ally and enemy. Currently, I see no reason to kill him since it's been established he won't limit the power of others, but if that changes, I wouldn't hesitate to slice him in two.

If there are two things I presently find disapointing, however, it would be this:

1) It feels like Jagex isn't exactly sure what to do with his character.

2) I have a shrewed suspicion he's lost a bit of his warrior's spirit since becoming a God.
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18-May-2016 16:55:49 - Last edited on 18-May-2016 16:57:14 by Hazeel

Raleirosen

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He's pretty cool, I guess.

I actually quite like his ideology, but I can't reconcile it with following Zamorak as a leader. I'm sure Zamorakians have some lovely insight into that dilemma.

Hazeel said:
Given the nature of the philosophy, I would consider him both an ally and enemy. Currently, I see no reason to kill him since it's been established he won't limit the power of others, but if that changes, I wouldn't hesitate to slice him in two.

Interesting.
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18-May-2016 22:32:06 - Last edited on 18-May-2016 22:34:52 by Raleirosen

Lego Miester
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More honest with himself than Saradomin, who masquerades as a stereotypical "hero" type despite causing just as much chaos and destruction as Zamorak. He's still just as hypocritical though, by having to bully and threaten his followers to keep them in line, he unwittingly admits that pure chaos just doesn't work.

I give him credit as a person though: when I didn't directly side with him, but just let him give Sliske a whooping (as I didn't want either of them to run off with the stone, I stayed neutral. If I had known it was just blasting Sliske though, and Sliske got it either way, I totally would have though) he didn't immediately turn on me just because I didn't follow his instructions to the letter. That gives him one point over Saradomin.

While I think they're both potential allies, if there was one I feel is more stable and trustworthy, ironically that award goes to the god of chaos.
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18-May-2016 22:45:23 - Last edited on 18-May-2016 22:47:45 by Lego Miester

Hazeel

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Lego Miester said:
He's still just as hypocritical though, by having to bully and threaten his followers to keep them in line, he unwittingly admits that pure chaos just doesn't work..


I've never really interpretted him as advocating for pure chaos, but rather suggesting for some chaos, whereas the other Gods would wish to supress it in all forms.

Of course, I could be wrong. This is the type of thing that's never clearly explained--I think all the Gods have at least one crucial element in their philosophy that's left unexplained--and I do wonder if a full explanation would make this more or less interesting.
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18-May-2016 23:24:29 - Last edited on 18-May-2016 23:27:00 by Hazeel

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