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I'll be talking about Vindicta's lore, lore from the King Black Dragon and lore concerning the One of a Kind quest.

I've lately been looking stuff up about Ilujan*a.

Knowing that Vindicta's parent is Morvannon, Morvannon was killed by Zamoraks Hellhounds at the end of the Second Age, possibly at the beginning of the Third Age. Meaning that Vindicta as an egg had to have been laid before then.

We also know that Gorvek rescued Egg Vindicta in the early Third Age

This means that Vindicta, at least as an egg at the time, has been alive since the Third Age.
Though we don't know when she hatched it's still a massive time of the start of the Third Age through the Fourth, Fifth and Sixth ages.

Vindicta is one old Ilujan*a.

Though I'm not done yet.

We also know that Hannibus had family back on Iaia due to the ending of One of a Kind where we meet his great-great-great-great-granddaughter, Sharrigan.

Hannibus came to Gielinor in the Second Age and did not return to Iaia before we meet Sharrigan, meaning that Hannibus also had either a son or daughter back on Iaia before the Third Age on Gielinor.
We also know that Hannibus did not know he had a 4x-great-grandaughter as in conversations in One of a Kind he tells her "It was good to have met you."
So it stands that though the Ilujan*a have an infertility problem, they weren't completely devoid of births during the time Hannibus was on Gielinor.

Vindicta on Gielinor has lived through 6 Generations of Ilujan*a on Iaia.

Just how old can Ilujan*a get? Is Vindicta special in some way that has allowed her to stay alive this long? Or are there still multi-great grandparent Ilujan*a alive on Iaia?
And if they do live that long, why would Sharrigan and possibly many other young Ilujan*a be preparing the species extinction when they could live for centuries more?

One last thing to really take in. The Fourth Age lasted 20 centuries. Vindicta is over 2000 years old.
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15-May-2016 19:28:44 - Last edited on 16-May-2016 08:06:51 by Zevrant Bapt

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Hmm. Well I guess that'll have to suffice for now then.

I'm personally really interested in the Ilujan*a, I just wish we knew even more about them and their world.
As Mr. Mordaut says about Hannibus. "Still, perhaps there is hope that we might see him again in the future."

Especially with Zaros back, with his promise to the Ilujanka as seen in Last Riders.
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15-May-2016 20:55:59 - Last edited on 15-May-2016 20:56:44 by Zevrant Bapt

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Sepulchre said:
Funnily enough, if you divide 6170 by 5, that actually comes out to 1234.. So, does that mean the average expected lifespan of an Ilujankan is 1,234 years?


Makes me wonder if Sharrigans exact quote is not accurate, but just shortened for the sake of ease. Her quote is "I am also Hannibus's great, great, great, erm... great granddaughter."
That 'erm...' could mean that she doesn't know how long ago exactly and just leaves it at that.
But that just makes everything even more vague and creates more questions.

sir eos lee said:
In some lores, "older" races tended to trade off fertility for lifespan. They could live longer, but have children less frequently.
In addition, the Ilujan*a come from a world where they lived Agrarian lives and had virtually no known predators or conflict (the concept of war was relatively foreign to them). So the only things that would typically kill them were accident, illness, or essentially old age.

Their only help to have a future would have been someone with the understanding of the sciences like Kerapac, or a high tier god who can weave energies and change mortals (basically Elder Tier Gods)


Even more questions about the lives of Ilujan*a, ones I would love to have a solid answer to at some point.

Talking of Kerapac and Gods who can weave energies, I would love to see a follow-up to One of a Kind, where we possibly have to choose between Kerapac and Zaros who to focus on aiding the Ilujan*a.
If Ilujan*a do have such long lives, I can see logic in letting Kerapac investigate despite saying it could take decades. But then there's also the possibility that Zaros has promised Vindicta too and has possibly gotten closer to figuring out how to aid them than Kerapac currently has available. After all, Zaros has known about them for a much longer time, Kerapac had only recently found out about them.
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16-May-2016 08:45:46 - Last edited on 16-May-2016 09:25:40 by Zevrant Bapt

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Sepulchre said:
Zevrant Bapt said:
Sepulchre said:
Funnily enough, if you divide 6170 by 5, that actually comes out to 1234.. So, does that mean the average expected lifespan of an Ilujankan is 1,234 years?


Makes me wonder if Sharrigans exact quote is not accurate, but just shortened for the sake of ease. Her quote is "I am also Hannibus's great, great, great, erm... great granddaughter."
That 'erm...' could mean that she doesn't know how long ago exactly and just leaves it at that.
But that just makes everything even more vague and creates more questions.
It is also possible the 'erm...' was just because she forgot where to stop with the 'great' and remembered to add one more. :P

Exactly my point with it being more vague.
It could be either, and we don't know which. And either of them lead to very different ages.
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16-May-2016 09:21:57 - Last edited on 16-May-2016 09:22:09 by Zevrant Bapt

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Interesting.
Depending on human lifespan, a healthy strong human could live to 100, but there are way too many variants, so I'll just use 100 as a simple example.
Then Ilujan*a, within a couple decade difference could live to 80-120 years old.

Assuming Hannibus to have been gone from Iaia for 6170 years

Of course there are references in game to Ilujan*a having a certain age where they are no longer able to produce children anyway.
Even assuming that Ilujan*a can have children at 60 and each Ilujan*a throughout the years having a child at that age puts Vindicta surviving throughout 100 generations of Ilujan*a.
Chances are though that Ilujan*a birth occured in younger than 60 year old Ilujan*a.

Vindicta has essentially, in slowed time, survived throughout 100-200 generations of Ilujan*a.

Note that the example ages are just for a way to understand just how long Vindicta has been alive for in terms of Ilujan*a lifespans. I'm not saying that Ilujan*a definitely live to between 80-120 years.
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16-May-2016 10:21:37 - Last edited on 16-May-2016 10:28:52 by Zevrant Bapt

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I would guess the same as real life.
Raven mentioned "The average unaltered lifespan-" when referring to the Ilujanka ages.
I would think magic would count as altering the lifespan, so when comparing one unaltered lifespan, I would assume that which it is being compared to would also be unaltered.

We can't go around comparing ages to Saradomin after all. Haha.
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16-May-2016 10:47:40

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Whatever happens, I desperately hope they can be helped.
Ilujanka are one of my favourite races in RuneScape. Too many games set reptillian people as beasts and savages, I love how peaceful the Ilujanka are.

Also about Mod Raven's quote. "They are on the cusp of complete extinction, if there is to be hope, it will need to be very soon..."
I hope that's a hint towards a new quest possibly coming up in the future. :)

Though I personally feel any further interactions with the Ilujan*a will also involve Zaros, and since we're all kind of preoccupied with Sliske's shenanigans it wouldn't be for quite a while yet.
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