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Solanumtinkr
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The Tiers of Godhood are a complicated thing. Each Tier represents a toolset a god can achieve at different Tiers. It also represents the power of a god. But does it?

Could it only represent the potential power of a god, rather than actual?

We do know that it is not clear cut when it comes to power as a lower Tier can defeat a higher Tier. We know that the Elders in Tier 1 are powerful in the extreme. but could it be their toolset that makes up a bulk of the "power" as that word is not that clear in this situation. They may very well have a lot of raw potential and be practically unkillable. But that could still be down to their T1 abilities, rather than sheer strength.

In short. Tiers are not the full story of how a god would fare both on and off the battlefield. And certainly not a clear divider between the gods. Otherwise a T3 would easily wipe the floor with everyone below them, solving any god war in short order.

Just look at Tuska. Massively powerful. in fact probably more powerful than any of the gods of Gielinor, alive and dead. But only due to a unique Anima Shield that protected against Divine energy. But she had them all on the run for a long time. Tier 4. Which shows that where someone is on the Tiers does not automatically confer an advantage.

So it would seem that the Tiers closer represent a skill set, like levelling up in a skill, than it does anything else.

What is your take on it?
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28-Aug-2016 10:10:32

Lethalintent
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No, tiers clearly define their specific powers granted when in range of the tier and the level of power the god has whilst in that tier.

We know there are mini scales within tiers, which is why Zaros, Seren, and Guthix were all three tier 2, But Guthix had the slight upper hand powerwise, while all three could still kick every lesser god off the planet and set up their own barrier should they choose.

The only way a lower tier god could win against a higher tier is through strategy or an artefact, not a 1 on 1 Kamehameha wave like Saradomin and Zamorak tried to pull.

Which puts holes in your suggestion, those two were on the same tier yet couldn't make the other budge without divine shards in the end. They went all out and that beam didn't move an inch.
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28-Aug-2016 13:52:05

Aig123

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Comparing the God tiers to levelling up skills seems logical. In the sense that, with each level up, more experience is required to advance. Maybe the God tiers unfolds exponentially.

For example, I don't expect Zaros to ascend in the same brief display that V showed,
simply touching the stone is too effortless. The jump between Tier 1 and 2 should be a near-impossible feat. This is a plaything trying to become as real as its creator.

I suspect not only multiple artefacts are required, but perhaps even other Gods being sacrificed to accumulate enough power for the leap into Elder status. However we interpret it, the God tier system is rather vague and inaccurate, and it definitely isn't a simple ladder.

28-Aug-2016 15:15:14

Hazeel
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Like Leth said, tiers are crystal clear in what each God can do. It's boring, but they are basically defined by power levels. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

28-Aug-2016 16:11:12

Lethalintent
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Solanumtinkr said:
Yes, the Tiers are crystal clear on the skill limits of the gods below, and potential power is laid out as well. But Tuska proved that Tier alone is not enough. Not everything is crystal clear.


It's clearer than you think. Perhaps you need glasses?

The only reason Tuska wasn't immediately taken out by any god was due to her Anima shield, an outside influence from her tier.
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28-Aug-2016 16:49:24

Solanumtinkr
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Exactly. The Anima Shield. Hardly an outside influence though, as it was her's. If Tier alone dictated it all, things would look very different today.

Outside would imply someone far more powerful, and at this point it would have to be an Elder, that applied the shield and made Tuska their Avatar. Just NO.
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28-Aug-2016 16:58:19

Hazeel
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Tires don exits. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

28-Aug-2016 20:29:38

AesirWarrior
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Tiers show us who has the objectively highest "power lvl". Tuska might only have, for example, a power lvl of 7500, but her anima godshield makes it possible for her to defeat a lvl 9000 Saradomin. That doesn't change the fact that Saradomin is on an objectively higher lvl than her.

You're right, tiers don't dictate who'd win in a fight, it IS fully possible that a t4 god could defeat a t3 god, but it's still pretty clear who's more powerful... unless you use a different definition of power. If by power you mean influence, or ability to impose change, then I do agree that it doesn't show us who's the most powerful. That being said, I think most people around think of strength when they say power. Someone who can lift 101 tons is more powerful than someone who can lift 100 tons if you get what I mean.

Tiers dictate who has the most raw magical power. It is NOT a list of who'd beat who, because that involves a lot of other factors.
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28-Aug-2016 21:04:13 - Last edited on 28-Aug-2016 21:07:45 by AesirWarrior

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