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Elf of Seren
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Another rambly post that I'm not exactly sure how to articulate, but feel free to comment, argue, and whatnot below:

So, as we know, Gorvek is an "outlier" dragon [1]. But formed from breeding what?

100% speculation, but I think Gorvek is the result of breeding a Rune Dragon, with a Wyvern.


Wyvern ^

Gorvek ^

Rune Dragon (unarmored) ^


My argument: Armored head, visually similar to Rune Dragons, a Color Scheme that is visually similar to both, as well as Purple Dragonfire shared with Wyverns.

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Anyways, beyond that, what other dragon/wyvern/wyrm/strykewyrm hybrids are out there?


Tl;dr, What do you think Gorvek is a hybrid of?


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~Final note only partially related:~

If there is ever a rework to Dragon Slayer, I would love to see Elvarg Buffed, and have her visually be the offspring of a Green Dragon and an Adamant Dragon. This way, she would be even more powerful than Brutal Green Dragons, making her as unique and powerful as she is supposed to be. Call her breed Viridian Dragons, or something like that.
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03-Dec-2017 02:32:48 - Last edited on 03-Dec-2017 06:14:39 by Elf of Seren

A Mad Hatter
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Elf of Seren said:


My argument: Armored head, visually similar to Rune Dragons, a Color Scheme that is visually similar to the two, as well as Purple Dragonfire shared with Wyverns.


Gorvek also appears to have that trait where it doesn't have proper forelegs/'arms' and seems to share that appendage space with its wings instead (unless my computer's acting up and I'm just not seeing the full picture for some reason). So I can definitely see some weird dragon/wyvern hybrid things coming out of a random experiment or something at one point or another considering all the other mad science stuff the Kin got into over the years.

Idk if that would make the case for more hybrid things existing though. At the very least we've seen that the Kin don't really take a liking to experimental failures, and I doubt an outlier like a hybrid is going to be anything they see as worth reproducing unless they thought they could get something interesting out of the deal. And there's also the possibility that hybrid races (like Mules in real life) might not be able to reproduce easily either, so that would put a dent in their potential numbers as well.

But that doesn't necessarily exclude someone else from trying to replicate it I guess.
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03-Dec-2017 04:59:12

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A Mad Hatter said:
science stuff the Kin got into over the years.

Idk if that would make the case for more hybrid things existing though. At the very least we've seen that the Kin don't really take a liking to experimental failures, and I doubt an outlier like a hybrid is going to be anything they see as worth reproducing unless they thought they could get something interesting out of the deal.


This is a completely fair argument. I guess with Vicendithas' Scribblings (http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Vicendithas%27_Scribblings )...

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... I thought that that gave more room for lesser dactyl to experiment with failures of the upper guys like Kerapac, resulting in various hybrids.

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Your no breeding thing, like mules, is great too. It totally explains why these exceptions are really rare.
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03-Dec-2017 06:11:53 - Last edited on 03-Dec-2017 06:12:15 by Elf of Seren

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Elf of Seren said:

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Ya know, I wasn't aware that Vicenditha's Scribblings were a thing actually (I haven't been playing the game too much this year and apparently missed the update that added it to the game. I also don't have the req to get into the Edimmu dungeon, so thanks for that link :D).

You might be right about that, assuming there's other Kin with Vicenditha's mindset around still. But at the same time, the scribblings also make a point of talking about Kerapac was trying to get his hands on some of Vic's eggs because he was interested in the fact that the result of the experiment turned out to be sexless (and therefore, falls into the 'they tolerate it if there's something to get from it' explanation).

So that might mean that hybrid/outlier dragons have a chance of existing outside of Gorvek after all, especially if the other Kin managed to figure out how to reproduce them somehow or just happened to create a few on accident and failed to dispose of them. But I still think that any population that could exist would probably have a lower number than most dragon populations because of their unique nature and potential sterilization done by guys like Kerapac.
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On a slightly different note I also got to thinking about this the other day and remembered something: one of the postbag letters in the past mentioned some imps smelling dragon dung or something in Morytania and Moravio's Notes mentioned 'Demon birds from the East' that were thought to be Dragonkin.

I vaguely recall hearing something about a possible Kin link to Morytania (I'll have to look it up later, can't recall the details atm), but what if either Morytania or the Eastern Lands hold possible locations of other hybrid/outlier dragons that we haven't run into yet? At the very least I get the feeling that the Spirit Dragons/Arhat would have some potential link to that sort of thing.
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A Mad Hatter said:

On a slightly different note I also got to thinking about this the other day and remembered something: one of the postbag letters in the past mentioned some imps smelling dragon dung or something in Morytania and Moravio's Notes mentioned 'Demon birds from the East' that were thought to be Dragonkin.

I vaguely recall hearing something about a possible Kin link to Morytania (I'll have to look it up later, can't recall the details atm), but what if either Morytania or the Eastern Lands hold possible locations of other hybrid/outlier dragons that we haven't run into yet? At the very least I get the feeling that the Spirit Dragons/Arhat would have some potential link to that sort of thing.


That's probably related to Dragontooth Island and the Celestial Dragons located there.
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05-Dec-2017 08:36:48

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MystLunaris said:


That's probably related to Dragontooth Island and the Celestial Dragons located there.


That's either some pretty good foreshadowing or real convenient for whoever developed those considering the time difference between releasing Celestial Dragons and the original postbag response.

It makes more sense than my theory/wishlist about vampyre and blood themed dragons though :P
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05-Dec-2017 21:33:26

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MystLunaris said:
A Mad Hatter said:

On a slightly different note I also got to thinking about this the other day and remembered something: one of the postbag letters in the past mentioned some imps smelling dragon dung or something in Morytania and Moravio's Notes mentioned 'Demon birds from the East' that were thought to be Dragonkin.

I vaguely recall hearing something about a possible Kin link to Morytania (I'll have to look it up later, can't recall the details atm), but what if either Morytania or the Eastern Lands hold possible locations of other hybrid/outlier dragons that we haven't run into yet? At the very least I get the feeling that the Spirit Dragons/Arhat would have some potential link to that sort of thing.


That's probably related to Dragontooth Island and the Celestial Dragons located there.


Actually, I believe that was supposed to be evidence for the Stone of Jas, and therefore the dragonkin, having stayed in Morytania for some time in the past. The Stone of Jas having been in Morytania was somewhat corroborated by dialogue and books in Lord of Vampyrium, while the Dragonkin's presence there was confirmed by the Celestial Dragons and their resource dungeon.

06-Dec-2017 14:43:52 - Last edited on 06-Dec-2017 14:44:11 by Hguoh

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