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Swolllliosis

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Saradomin puts the fate of all his followers at the mercy of one girl, Adrastreia, his biggest weakness. This makes him dangerous and gravely flawed.

During Sliske's Endgame, Saradomin handed over the Stone of Jas, a weapon capable of mass destruction, over to Zaros without little hesitation in exchange for the return of his daughter, and then what would have happened next?

Everything Saradomin has built up would have all been for not. Upon giving Zaros the Stone of Jas, Saradomin gave up every shred of dignity and ambition he had for being the so-called One True God. He also risked the lives of his followers, too.

Zaros could have turned against Saradomin the moment he handed the pact worn off after he turned over the SoJ. Perhaps, Zaros wouldn't have killed Saradomin immediately, seeing that Zaros is a being that finds a use for everyone, but he would have definitely crushed him and all his followers if he ever got in his way of ascending to Elder Godhood (Zaros did even threaten to kill the World Guardian if we our selves didn't give the Stone to him). The life of one girl is not the worth the life of potentially millions, as well as breaking all the promises you made. Adrastreia may have been Saradomin's daughter but Saradomin does not get to condemn and throw the lives of all his followers to a potentially dark, grave future, and possibly their destruction.

Speaking as an Armadylean, yes, I know Armadyl got many of his Aviansie killed, but he has learned his mistakes, and proved this by bringing only Kree'ara and his body guards to the Endgame, unlike Saradomin who brought a battalion of white knights to the finale. Killing Bandos was also justified seeing Bandos was responsible for the murder of many. However, trading the lives of a whole squadron of white knights and potentially all other Saradominists is
NOT
a justifiable fair trade for the life of one girl in no way shape or form.

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11-Feb-2017 07:11:48 - Last edited on 11-Feb-2017 07:12:21 by Swolllliosis

Swolllliosis

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At least with Armadyl's deal with Zaros, all of Armadyl's followers are protected from whatever horrors Zaros may bring to the world. Armadyl didn't even include himself in the pact, only his followers. Armadyl would rather sacrifice himself to save his followers, unlike Saradomin, who would tempt everyone's life for the sanctity of one girl. This is so selfish, so greedy, so abuseive, it's basically corruption for self-gains. And if they try and refuse him, will Saradomin rip off their limbs? He puts his daughter above all. She may be your only family, but Saradomin, those are your people! That's like betraying your country to terrorists for your family's well-being. Where will that utopia that you and your daughter are going to safetly live in be once Zaros becomes Big Brother and subjugates the universe to his will?!

It feels like Saradomin's only true purpose in life is to build a happy world for his little princess in Gielinor. "she's all that matters."- Saradomin. And Saradomin is nothing without her. He's like that King in that one movie that builds a kingdom for his daughter on the foundation of slavery and suffering and doesn't even let the daughter go beyond the walls of the kingdom (Aladdin / LionKing 2? idk). If this is true, it explains why Saradomin is so quick to toss away everything he has worked for for one girl.

Ok I am done raging, bye.
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11-Feb-2017 07:11:55 - Last edited on 11-Feb-2017 09:37:03 by Swolllliosis

Cybernet377
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Yes, I suppose Saradominists should be weary, given that every time a piece of lore even tangentially relates to Saradomin, at least one thread pops up about how bad it makes him look.

If you mean that his followers should be wary that his inability to see past his daughter to the needs of the multitude of worlds and the followers that live on them may cause him to do something unwise to disastrous effect later on, I agree wholeheartedly.

11-Feb-2017 14:31:30

Ancient Drew
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If anything, this only proves even further that Saradomin is, at the end of the day, just a normal human being with tier 3 power. If he had transcended past humanity, he wouldn't be using this kind of mindset or empathy. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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11-Feb-2017 14:45:44

Wahisietel
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If Armadyl was in the same situation, do you really think he wouldn't have done exactly the same thing? Because he definitely would have.

Heck, any of the gods would have done the same, except for Bandos.
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11-Feb-2017 14:53:12 - Last edited on 11-Feb-2017 14:55:27 by Wahisietel

Ancient Drew
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Wahisietel said:
If Armadyl was in the same situation, do you really think he wouldn't have done exactly the same thing? Because he definitely would have.
We don't really know whether Adrastreia was actually sired by Saradomin or if he adopted her. But we do know that Armadyl adopted his kids.

And in the case of Saradomin being her biological father, was she preserved somehow? Did he have her or take her in before or after ascension? There are a lot of questions surrounding this, things that should explain his relationship with her and how she's still alive if he sired her when he was mortal. He even states forgetting what his wife looked like.
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11-Feb-2017 15:07:56

Wahisietel
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Ancient Drew said:
Wahisietel said:
If Armadyl was in the same situation, do you really think he wouldn't have done exactly the same thing? Because he definitely would have.
We don't really know whether Adrastreia was actually sired by Saradomin or if he adopted her. But we do know that Armadyl adopted his kids.


Biological relation is irrelevant. Family is family.
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11-Feb-2017 15:46:46

Ancient Drew
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Wahisietel said:
Ancient Drew said:
Wahisietel said:
If Armadyl was in the same situation, do you really think he wouldn't have done exactly the same thing? Because he definitely would have.
We don't really know whether Adrastreia was actually sired by Saradomin or if he adopted her. But we do know that Armadyl adopted his kids.


Biological relation is irrelevant. Family is family.
It does factor into it slightly, depending on culture. But whatever his relationship is with his daughter, at the end of the day it still suggests that Saradomin is just a normal human being; he would sacrifice the order he had built up (which took a ton of work; this is clearly shown with his self-pride) for that one person he loves more than anything else. In fact, she could be his last tie to humanity.
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11-Feb-2017 15:57:06

Lethalintent
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Although Saradominists should be weary, that's more to do with their own self destruction rather than what their god will do.

But I don't fault Saradomin for what he did.

To a Parent, their child's life IS worth countless other lives, Worth giving up near limitless power, worth all the humiliation, danger, consequences and sacrifices that it takes in order to keep them safe. Take into account that to a parent there should be no higher priority than being said parent.
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11-Feb-2017 16:37:14 - Last edited on 11-Feb-2017 16:39:47 by Lethalintent

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