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Devil Vein
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Somethings been bothering me and it has everything to do with our status as world guardian. Twice now we have seen Guthixs enchantment upon us fail. First in death of chilvary where Saradomin ripped the elder wand from our grasp with divine energy stating "There are other ways around your protection" and again when Seren saved us from a lava bath. She states due to the enchantment, it was difficult. At first I assumed Saradomin did this by using his power on the wand and not us but seren seems to catch you in mid air. Then i thought saradomin used the power of his elder artifact to do so since weve seen powers greater than Guthix arent bound to the same restrictions. The staff and the stone have both pushed right past our protections before. But Seren doesnt appear to own an elder artifact. So to the point, is there a weak spot in our world guardian aura? Or does Seren have more power than guthix by an unseen elder artifact or by birth? After all she is one of the few gods who didnt leave the world when Big G set up the edicts, hell he even had to ask her to leave and she only shattered herself because she knew it was the right thing to do. Do you really think you can stop me, Xau-Tak? You can't. There is a bottomless pit of destruction and this is Devil Vein.

14-Dec-2016 13:58:22

Wahisietel
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Saradomin was able to "bypass" our enchantment by simply firing magic at us to knock us over. We didn't actually come to harm as a result.

Seren saved us by floating a rock under us, apparently.
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14-Dec-2016 14:15:14 - Last edited on 14-Dec-2016 16:00:59 by Wahisietel

ZAmorakZaros
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Guthix gave us this plot armour with his last remnants of energy. And even after that his energy floated everywhere in the world. I think another tier 2 god can pass the protection if they really put effort to it NO
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14-Dec-2016 14:45:03

Adventurerrr
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Devil Vein said:


1. It was stated that our protection is to nullify Godly energy, so Saradomin blast did hit us, just didn't kill us. We can die from it, but not in one hit like a lot of mortals. By the way, it wasn't the elder wand, in fact it was proven that it isn't an Elder artifact at all.

2. Seren never stated how she saved us, remember she said Guthix made it hard for those who want to help us, so she could have either had trouble in floating us, or had to use an object to save us.

3. Guthix was the most powerful one, he banished those not willing to leave, and went around looking for other gods. In Hero's welcome, it was stated that the event of the edict was not a one day event, but a multiple vanishing. Guthix goes to the Gods who are more peaceful and ask them to leave, Spoilers:
V and Bandos are an example of this. After the Mighty Falls quest, you can collect some of Bandos memories, which explains that Guthix visited Bandos and told the God to leave, which he agreed to. V was the same matter, and so were some other unknown gods. Of course it was stated some tried to hide from him.
Remember the Edict was a barrier made to prevent the gods from entering Gielinor again, Guthix needed to remove those who remained. Seren was asked to leave with him, but as stated in her memory, she revealed to Guthix what she mistakenly done to the elves, She agreed to leave, but not with him. Guthix tried to figure out a solution, only to then let her shatter herself, as she wanted to make sure her elves lives, but without the need of her.
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14-Dec-2016 15:13:33 - Last edited on 14-Dec-2016 15:15:26 by Adventurerrr

Ancient Drew
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^ Well, Bandos knew Guthix was stronger than him so he knew he had to leave. But then he got pissed when Guthix made his followers stay.

As for V, he was Guthixian as a mortal. He stumbled across the Catalyst, founded and trained the Lunar Clan, effectively started off Runecrafting and left Gielinor out of respect for Guthix when or before the Edicts went up. I also think Guthix told him about other gods who were dangerous, so he went out exploring and studying the likes of the Queen of Ashes and Xau-Tak among others on Guthix's behalf after Sliske killed him.
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14-Dec-2016 15:41:06

Devil Vein
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I dont know its either going to be a retcon or a vast oversight. The crown sara wears is a elder artifavt. Chanelling its power may have made us susceptible to him but i cant figure out how Seren did it unless shes stronger than she lets off. She did kill an elder afterall. Floating a stone beneath us as an explanation is boring. Do you really think you can stop me, Xau-Tak? You can't. There is a bottomless pit of destruction and this is Devil Vein.

14-Dec-2016 18:09:51

Kanarthasis
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Bandos didn't leave lmfao. He refused and was torn from his chess pieces as stated in his memories and he lurched in his throne room looking for a way around the edicts to reclaim his followers, he could only watch them, but not intervene. He found a way and therefore could watch his gladiator games.
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14-Dec-2016 18:23:59

Wahisietel
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Kanarthasis said:
Bandos didn't leave lmfao. He refused and was torn from his chess pieces as stated in his memories and he lurched in his throne room looking for a way around the edicts to reclaim his followers, he could only watch them, but not intervene. He found a way and therefore could watch his gladiator games.


He was going to leave voluntarily, but threw a tantrum and tried to attack Guthix after he demanded he leave his followers behind.
You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

14-Dec-2016 18:26:54

AesirWarrior
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While our World Guardian powers negate the effects of godly magic that blast is still going to have some sort of physical force behind it. It knocked us over, but it didn't affect us in any other way.

As for Seren she was supposed to save us by floating a rock under us, but the quest ran out of graphical budget or something. Of course since that's not in-game you could probably just use whatever headcanon you want. There's doesn't seem to be anything stopping the gods from phyiscally touching us for instance, so she could have just swooped in Superman style.
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14-Dec-2016 18:43:14

Devil Vein
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AesirWarrior said:
While our World Guardian powers negate the effects of godly magic that blast is still going to have some sort of physical force behind it. It knocked us over, but it didn't affect us in any other way.

As for Seren she was supposed to save us by floating a rock under us, but the quest ran out of graphical budget or something. Of course since that's not in-game you could probably just use whatever headcanon you want. There's doesn't seem to be anything stopping the gods from phyiscally touching us for instance, so she could have just swooped in Superman style.


As for Seren she was supposed to save us by floating a rock under us, but the quest ran out of graphical budget or something. Of course since that's not in-game you could probably just use whatever headcanon you want. There's doesn't seem to be anything stopping the gods from phyiscally touching us for instance, so she could have just swooped in Superman style.[/quote]

New headcanon. Seren removes face veil and wears red and blue spandex flying around saving wayward adventures and no one recognizes its her but shes always around when something like that happens and is the only person who is shaped like that.
Do you really think you can stop me, Xau-Tak? You can't. There is a bottomless pit of destruction and this is Devil Vein.

14-Dec-2016 18:47:48

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