Somethings been bothering me and it has everything to do with our status as world guardian. Twice now we have seen Guthixs enchantment upon us fail. First in death of chilvary where Saradomin ripped the elder wand from our grasp with divine energy stating "There are other ways around your protection" and again when Seren saved us from a lava bath. She states due to the enchantment, it was difficult. At first I assumed Saradomin did this by using his power on the wand and not us but seren seems to catch you in mid air. Then i thought saradomin used the power of his elder artifact to do so since weve seen powers greater than Guthix arent bound to the same restrictions. The staff and the stone have both pushed right past our protections before. But Seren doesnt appear to own an elder artifact. So to the point, is there a weak spot in our world guardian aura? Or does Seren have more power than guthix by an unseen elder artifact or by birth? After all she is one of the few gods who didnt leave the world when Big G set up the edicts, hell he even had to ask her to leave and she only shattered herself because she knew it was the right thing to do. Do you really think you can stop me, Xau-Tak? You can't. There is a bottomless pit of destruction and this is Devil Vein.