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Nolhiir
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Maiden China said:
Nolhiir said:

She killed someone using the Elder Horn. We have absolutely no idea what this does, but I think we can all agree that it isn't that god-slaying type weapon.
we can't all agree on that... since it's aleady killed a godMaiden China said:
(please dont mention the chap who got killed by drinking from the elder wine jug)


elder artefacts are basically like screwdrivers for the elder gods. Someone who isn't familiar with their use, and assumes its a weapon, can still poke people's eyes out with it

Does accidental suicide really count as god-slaying, though?
What's Quin going to do, offer her a drink?
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05-Jul-2016 04:14:14 - Last edited on 05-Jul-2016 04:14:59 by Nolhiir

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Nolhiir said:

Does accidental suicide really count as god-slaying, though?
What's Quin going to do, offer her a drink?
I was thinking more along the lines of repeatedly bashing it over her head...

it's not like that didn't work for zamorak, stabbing most people with a staff (blunt object) is going to do very little and zaros isn't a normal person. like the elder wine jug, the thing isn't designed to be any sort of weapon... the only artefact that might be is the sword
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05-Jul-2016 04:32:53

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2 points first. 1.) Any Elder Artifact probably has the potential to kill a god if used in the right way. Whether you beat them with it, stab them, blast them, or even channel magic through it. 2.) Every living being is most likely made out of anima, to say something is an "anima construct" isn't exactly saying much. It's that they're a more pure source of anima, or not imperfect anima.

Anyway, ZuZu. I wouldn't call what she has "immortality." To quote a favorite manga/anime character, There's no such thing as a true immortal. Sure her body can take a lot of punishment, but if you throw her in a meat grinder and turn her into 10 thousand tiny little pieces, she's dead.
There's a difference between wielding a weapon and knowing what you're doing with it. With something as complex, powerful, and mysterious as the Elder Artifacts, knowing what you're doing to a complete extent probably isn't possible for even Zaros or Seren. Basic knowledge of what you're doing is probably reserved for the smartest, strongest, or wisest mortals. My point is that killing someone holding a powerful weapon might only prove they sucked with that weapon, not your own strength.
She can't even kill herself. Well as has been pointed out, she probably doesn't have even the slightest understanding of the power that keeps her alive. She can't turn it off because of that, unlike Guthix.

My judgement is that she's basically too inexperienced and too young to call immortal. Everything dies, you just need to know how.
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05-Jul-2016 06:13:00

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Well we know for a fact that she used her "immortality" to walk through many of Quin's traps without a problem. To quote, her immortality granted her "immunity" towards them. Traps that kill people are probably very gruesome (probably as gruesome as a meat grinder). I imagine spike traps and razor blades like in the Brimhaven agility dungeon. She could probably survive a meat grinder if you put her in one, probably jamming it while being unharmed at the same time.
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05-Jul-2016 10:19:48

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Zu Zu said:
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Well we know for a fact that she used her "immortality" to walk through many of Quin's traps without a problem. To quote, her immortality granted her "immunity" towards them. Traps that kill people are probably very gruesome (probably as gruesome as a meat grinder). I imagine spike traps and razor blades like in the Brimhaven agility dungeon. She could probably survive a meat grinder if you put her in one, probably jamming it while being unharmed at the same time.
That's not immortality, that's self-correcting universe theory in action.
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05-Jul-2016 10:32:16

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Sepulchre said:
Zu Zu said:
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Well we know for a fact that she used her "immortality" to walk through many of Quin's traps without a problem. To quote, her immortality granted her "immunity" towards them. Traps that kill people are probably very gruesome (probably as gruesome as a meat grinder). I imagine spike traps and razor blades like in the Brimhaven agility dungeon. She could probably survive a meat grinder if you put her in one, probably jamming it while being unharmed at the same time.
That's not immortality, that's self-correcting universe theory in action.

I think she meant that when she falls into a meat grinder, Her body stays intact and jams the whole thing because it cannot grind her. Or something

But it is not like we cannot survive deadly traps too...
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05-Jul-2016 18:53:42

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I wonder what Harold thinks of this bizarre specimen.


Was gonna say this but you beat me to it :(

Kind of have to wonder though...would he even be able to reap her soul in her current state? I know gods have that no afterlife clause in their whole divinity deal, but I don't think she's quite past that threshold of godhood just yet. Or maybe I'm wrong and she's just a very young god who hasn't learned to control her powers yet because of how she ascended. Gonna have to reread her dialogue stuff now since I can't remember the details off the top of my head >_>

*Edit: ok, reread the stuff. Godhood seems to be off the cards atm so I'm going with the next best thing and wondering if the ritual also didn't mess around with her soul anyway.
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05-Jul-2016 22:44:38 - Last edited on 05-Jul-2016 22:50:56 by A Mad Hatter

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ZAmorakZaros said:
Sepulchre said:
Zu Zu said:
^

Well we know for a fact that she used her "immortality" to walk through many of Quin's traps without a problem. To quote, her immortality granted her "immunity" towards them. Traps that kill people are probably very gruesome (probably as gruesome as a meat grinder). I imagine spike traps and razor blades like in the Brimhaven agility dungeon. She could probably survive a meat grinder if you put her in one, probably jamming it while being unharmed at the same time.
That's not immortality, that's self-correcting universe theory in action.

I think she meant that when she falls into a meat grinder, Her body stays intact and jams the whole thing because it cannot grind her. Or something

But it is not like we cannot survive deadly traps too...


We'd still take damage from traps. Zuzu however is completely "immune." It's like her body is indestructible like Superman.
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06-Jul-2016 00:27:04

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I still think she could most definitely be a god, albeit a really low-tier one.

We know that sea creatures are made of divine energy like The Memory. The ritual she used involves sacrificing (possibly absorbing into herself) a few sea creatures. It's totally possible to ascend to godhood purely on absorbing divine energy alone. (Look at Gielinor.)
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06-Jul-2016 00:30:53

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