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Pantamalion

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Could the rune essence mine be/be above the elder halls on Gielinor?
It has the same structure as the one on Freneskae(paths radiating from a center) except without a spot for Mah. In addition to this, we know that the Stone of Jas creates rune essence, and as the Stone is a "hard-boiled" Elder egg, it is reasonable to assume that the live eggs would have similar properties (with each egg forming one of the 4 spires).

Further evidence:
-hard to access(meaning the violence from the God Wars wouldn't have reached it--see Fot*)
-fits statement that we've interacted with them before
-Seren seems to state that rune essence is tied to the Elder gods in her Memoriam crystals

29-Sep-2014 03:54:38 - Last edited on 25-May-2015 21:49:35 by Pantamalion

Velia

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Oh god... The Stone of Jas has created rune essence on Lunar Isle when it was there; the 'stone' is actually a 'hard-boiled egg'. In the rune essence mine, there are four big mining plots, there are also four Elder Gods on Gielinor.

The Rune essence mine is the Elder Hall and the eggs are inside of the big chunks that we've been mining.

This theory actually works... :O
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29-Sep-2014 04:21:14 - Last edited on 29-Sep-2014 04:22:09 by Velia

Feneskrae
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The above two posts make a lot of sense...

The Stone of Jas was also in Guthix's Cavern and produced the Daeyalt Ore in Morytania, yet, rune essence did not form in those or any other locations that the Stone has been.

You may be on to something...

Thinking more about it, Seren even mentions that the power of the runestones will be the key to finding the Elder Gods. Runestones all come from the Rune Essence Mine one way or another. This is making more and more sense!

Melzar the Mad even hints at this. He says that with runes, he controls a power above magic, what else could this power be if not the Elder Gods?
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29-Sep-2014 05:33:18 - Last edited on 29-Sep-2014 05:37:23 by Feneskrae

Velia

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Feneskrae said:
Thinking more about it, Seren even mentions that the power of the runestones will be the key to finding the Elder Gods. Runestones all come from the Rune Essence Mine one way or another. This is making more and more sense!
Lol, wow, I completely forgot that part of her memories; now I'm really interested to see what all those ess-bots dig up.. :P

Anyway, let's wait for someone lore-hound with more lore knowledge on rune ess to post and see what they think (rune stone/ess history is all over the place); I'm looking at the Unofficial Wiki article regarding the essence mine, which isn't necessarily accurate, so they'd probably have a better idea for the feasibility of this theory.
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29-Sep-2014 05:55:10

Robo Hobo

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Hmm, something that would go against this is if the lunar ess mine isnt the same area as the main essence mine we use. While I may prefer they be the same one for different reasons, the whole V---- being 1st or 2nd age theory (instead of late 4th/reason for 5th starting) heavily relies on the idea that the lunar ess mine isnt in the same area as the main ess mine. If they arent the same place then that would show the essence effect either isnt uniqe to the elder god eggs being there, or one egg is randomly in a different place.

Other than that though, those are some good points, maybe something further will be able to say one way or another with prif batch 2.

Though my bet still goes with it being under the tower of life :P
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29-Sep-2014 06:31:51

Pantamalion

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Robo Hobo said:
Hmm, something that would go against this is if the lunar ess mine isnt the same area as the main essence mine we use. While I may prefer they be the same one for different reasons, the whole V---- being 1st or 2nd age theory (instead of late 4th/reason for 5th starting) heavily relies on the idea that the lunar ess mine isnt in the same area as the main ess mine. If they arent the same place then that would show the essence effect either isnt uniqe to the elder god eggs being there, or one egg is randomly in a different place.

Other than that though, those are some good points, maybe something further will be able to say one way or another with prif batch 2.

Though my bet still goes with it being under the tower of life :P


Maybe the formation of rune essence has to do with how long the stone was there?

29-Sep-2014 06:51:50

Dionysius
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This theory actually has a lot of sense to it, I'll be interested to see how it develops.

One argument to go against the whole is it the same mine or a different mine to the Lunar Island idea is that the traditional Rune Essence mine is in fact the Elder Halls of Gielinor, hence why it has so many different blocks from which you can mine essence and it has the four chambers etc.

The Lunar Isle mine is the original place where the Elders left their artefacts including the Catalyst, where they lay for thousands of years longer than they remained anywhere else, hence why they changed this area to such a large extent compared to any other areas. This would suggest that Daeyalt ore is a type of prelude to rune essence that lacks the full exposure to an Elder God / Elder God egg.

There are also more cracks in the mine blocks now than there was back in the day, which could indicate that the Elders may be starting to wake up? If y'all feel like a conspiracy theory that is ;)
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29-Sep-2014 10:58:45

Half Centaur
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The more I think about this, the more it makes sense.


It certainly helps simplify the Stone of Jas timeline, thats for sure.
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29-Sep-2014 11:58:48

Robo Hobo

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Hmm, perhaps it could be based on the amount of time the Stone of Jas was nearby the rocks. While in the WGS cutscene it doesn't appear exactly that the nearby rocks are Rune Essence, the Stone seems to have been in a lower part of the Rune Essence cave on Lunar Isle (there's a chasm at which the rune essence rock goes further down), and the moonclan manual suggests the rock had been like that since upon finding the stone, only that he realized after coming back from a long expedition to find it again - since the Stone was taken, after all, they would have had to have been like that since he found it.

IF the theory that V found the Stone in the 1st or 2nd age rather than the late 4th starting 5th is true, then the Stone of Jas would have been there potentially for thousands of years, potentially 4000+ depending on the exact time and if Guthix had moved it from where he first found it.

If it's not, then it would have been there for at most, 2000 years. The Stone of Jas could have been in the FOG cave for some thousands of years potentially, and in Morytania for a similar although more likely shorter time.

If the V theory is true then it would have been in the WGS cavern for 2169 years.

Anyway the point I'm getting at is that regardless of what theory is true, the effects the other areas have had the Stone of Jas in aren't the same as the Lunar Isle or the Rune Essence mine cave, if it is based on the amount of time the Stone has been there, then there's not much room in the timeline for the Stone to be in the main Rune Essence mine cave for some thousands of years, not to mention how much bigger that cave is and with 4 mining spots - even the lunar isle one only has one mineable rock.

It's starting to seem this theory of yours may be rather plausible. :P

Would be rather interesting if it was right too, one of the most significant spots on Gielinor, a place we've all passed through many times oblivious to the fact.
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29-Sep-2014 15:23:36

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This is a great insight! This might suggest that the location of the main essence mine lies beyond the river noumenon... and we can easily teleport to it... I have to think about what this means.

29-Sep-2014 16:41:57

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