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Hguoh
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Wahisietel said:
It could be that Elidinis has canonically returned to Gielinor at the start of the Sixth Age and brought the book with her, but we can't see her since Menaphos is still set in the Fifth Age.


The main issue that I see with that is that the Tale was recovered from an archaeological dig, which appears to indicate that it arrived on Gielinor back when the subject of the dig was still on the surface. True, Elidinis could have planted it amongst the other objects, but then I question what would motivate her to do so when she deliberately had 78 transcribe the tale.

But even if Elidinis came back to Gielinor prior to the Edicts' fall, the veil would make her godliness undetectable unless and until she decides to blow her cover. And until the Desert quests get dragged into the 6th age, Elidinis has little reason to do so (as it would trigger the Edicts).

So speculation time: assuming Elidinis is on Gielinor, what character is she?

05-Jul-2017 04:14:33 - Last edited on 05-Jul-2017 04:15:51 by Hguoh

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Mod Rowley said:
Keep in mind that, as with any book, it could just be a work of fiction. Don't believe everything you read.


Honestly, Mod Rowley ruins all my fun.
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05-Jul-2017 13:47:06

Hguoh
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Mod Rowley said:
Keep in mind that, as with any book, it could just be a work of fiction. Don't believe everything you read.


Could be. *Shrugs* But that doesn't mean that it isn't fun to speculate that it is true.

That being said, I find the specificity that it was a spider-like race of beings, and not just a race of spiders, to be a rather odd quality for something based in fiction.

As is the detail that Elidinis cannot normally reproduce, which is something our character only recently learned of during Sliske's Endgame.

So while I accept the possibility that it could be fiction, I find my suspicions leading to the opposite conclusion.

05-Jul-2017 14:49:10 - Last edited on 05-Jul-2017 14:49:21 by Hguoh

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Mod Rowley said:
Keep in mind that, as with any book, it could just be a work of fiction. Don't believe everything you read.


Would you mind sharing who the author of this book was? It was longer than any of the other books, so I assume it was written by an employee of Jagex, but which one? Was it you?
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05-Jul-2017 15:15:26

SonofZeruiah
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I hope to high heaven that Elidinis is not the queen of ashes, that would be so lame and lacking in creativity.

I really liked the story, fiction or no, for it shows that Elidinis has a complicated character, one who is proud, but caring. Compassionate and wrathful. Also, why is everyone ignoring how horrorifying it is that the spiders killed their young considered "unfit"? They are a sentient species practicing the worst form of eugenics, akin to genocide. While real life spiders might be heartless, remember that real spiders do not possess higher reasoning, these ones do and yet still thought killing off their young, who are innocent, as acceptable.

I do not say all of that to defend Elidinis' punishment, but it does capture that she hates the abuse of children and cares most for their futures.

In fact, Elidinis was cruel (although arguablely an equal exchange) to slaughter the spiders when learning how perverse they were, she could have taught them better, but instead she opted for divine retribution instead of divine instruction/revelation.

05-Jul-2017 15:19:02

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SonofZeruiah said:

In fact, Elidinis was cruel (although arguablely an equal exchange) to slaughter the spiders when learning how perverse they were, she could have taught them better, but instead she opted for divine retribution instead of divine instruction/revelation.


I think it had to do with the fact that they were all essentially living computers and weren't really capable of empathy towards the crippled. Only caring about self preservation and continuing their race with the best features, so it may not have been possible to teach them. Their names were literally numbers, after all, so I think it may have been reasonable for her to kill them if they had no humanity (spidermanity?), and were content with destroying what they saw as "lesser life". I mean, he was literally going to dissect her at some point, I don't think it would be good to have them wandering the multiverse.
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05-Jul-2017 18:42:25 - Last edited on 05-Jul-2017 18:42:58 by Elf of Seren

Hguoh
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SonofZeruiah said:
Also, why is everyone ignoring how horrorifying it is that the spiders killed their young considered "unfit"? They are a sentient species practicing the worst form of eugenics, akin to genocide.


Some female spiders eat their mates after they've, well, mated.
Some male spiders eat small or crippled females.
Some baby spiders eat their mothers after hatching.
And some spiders eat baby spiders (sometimes their own, and sometimes someone else's)

Granted, these are sapient spider-like beings, but cannibalism, especially cannibalism of or by the young is not an uncommon occurrence in species that are born able to take care of themselves, and it's fair to assume that such traits could very well be preserved if/when such a species attained sapience.

Beyond that, Elidinis already pointed out how what they did was awful.

And, for the fun of it, other types of animals that practice filial cannibalism (eating children):

Pigs
Cats
Wasps
Fish
Primates
Rodents
Birds
Amphibians
Snails and Slugs
Insects
Butterflies and Moths

Pretty sure I just ruined somebody's opinions of at least one of these animals.

05-Jul-2017 20:52:15 - Last edited on 05-Jul-2017 20:55:24 by Hguoh

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Elf of Seren said:

. . . Their names were literally numbers . . .


On that note, why did Aragnya have a proper name then? (or conversely why is 0078 have a number since they're he only 2 named individuals)

05-Jul-2017 22:38:37

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