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iXavior

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Tzhaar library
- all the books were accidentally incinerated to a crisp pile of ashes from the heat...

Prifdinnas library
- we cannot hear any of the literature trapped in the crystals because our ears can't detect the sounds.

Tuai Lei Seasingers' Research Centre library
- there is literally nothing clickable in the whole seasinger academy!!

Why is there nooo lore or at least some cutesie skit in any of these places.

I bet the
Menaphos library
will be the same :( Y'all are probably gonna play some game with us saying something like, "oh, sorry, everything in the library is written on the wall in ancient Menaphosan Hieroglyphs that no one has been able to decipher in generations" or the texts are too faded away to comprehend anything. >_<
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11-Oct-2016 06:00:28 - Last edited on 11-Oct-2016 22:14:04 by iXavior

Kittyphantom
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I heard Tuai Leit used to have a library, but a centaur destroyed it. "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you[...]For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

11-Oct-2016 06:07:06

Mewzard
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But there are examine texts in Tuai Leit's library. Mod Stu put in a lot of solo time to giving all of the new islands examine texts (some quite amazing).

That said, I do agree that I'd love to have more of a chance to get some new lore books and maybe NPC convos on lore in these places.

11-Oct-2016 06:53:47

Hguoh
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Mostly because there's only one library in game that will ever really matter: your PoH bookcases. Any and all pertinent texts end up magically stored within its wooden frame regardless of whether you you actually put it there after reading it or if the shelves were actually large enough to hold so many books.

That's not even mentioning the apparent space warping properties of the bookshelf that allow you to retrieve any books stored in it from wherever they are in the world without leaving the comfort of your home. Nor so does this address the apparent magical properties of books that allows them to be completely destroyed only to reappear instantly in pre-destroyed condition.

Now that I say that out loud, I kinda want a quest about the nature of books and bookcases in Runescape.

11-Oct-2016 14:00:25

Deltaslug

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I do agree. It would be nice if there were more to some of the libraries.
But there are problems:
- what do you put in there?
- do you want to spend developer time writing books that could be spent elsewhere?

Most in real life libraries end up being large collections of hundreds of books on the same topics (WW1, WW2, Cold War, Biographies of famous people, etc), followed up with the large collection of fiction, children's education, adult education, then self help, and general reference, and a number of other areas. Even then you could get dozen of authors writing on the same sub genre.

Some in game libraries are partially fleshed out (Even if title only)
- varrock library
- citharade abbey library
- player's bookshelves
- Wizard Tower library

That said, what would really make up most libraries in game?
Tons of religious propaganda books (Hymnals, chants, stories etc related to your factional deity)
Daily Journals from you and your ancestors (common occurrence in RS it seems)
Tales of heroes and villains (sort of like children's stories or general fiction novels)
Some equivalent to an RS almanac
Reference books on how to do your job (Smithing Techniques, Farming Techniques, Crafting, etc) most of which wouldn't be useful because we already know how to smith/craft/farm most things or we learn quickly.


Now if there is existing content out there that Jagex doesn't think they'll ever get around to making a quest or something to explain, then by all means, create a short book or story that tells us and put it in a library.
Examples:
- Adventuring Guild Libraries - Journals from current/former guild members (could even do player entries and Jagex could cut and paste them into their book format)
- Scientific Journals - The explanation of the Giant Chinchompa and Soporith Moth,
- Specific Character history - Camorra, The Ancient warriors

11-Oct-2016 15:34:15

Eren Lapucet

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The difference with the elf library is that there was a lot of hype about it years before the quest. So that's one I'm disappointed that they didn't put any dev time on.

Although really, they could have just made it so that completing laps at the agility course only gave you a key or some magical device that would enable you to 'hear' the chapters of the Voice of the Elders in the library.
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11-Oct-2016 15:43:09

iXavior

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It doesn't have to be a lot of books. Many 4 or 5. And it doesn't have to be really directly related the main lore. It could be like a poem, short story, scientific journals, some cute nursery rhymes, random fictitious fun tales irrelevant to the game's main lore. Just put soomething. Something on the level of the wizard tower library or Varrock library I worship Mah, for she is mah homegirl! The correct adjective for Mah's followers are: Mahomies, Mah-homeboys, or Mah-homegirls.

11-Oct-2016 22:19:22

Solanumtinkr
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Hguoh said:
Mostly because there's only one library in game that will ever really matter: your PoH bookcases. Any and all pertinent texts end up magically stored within its wooden frame regardless of whether you you actually put it there after reading it or if the shelves were actually large enough to hold so many books.

That's not even mentioning the apparent space warping properties of the bookshelf that allow you to retrieve any books stored in it from wherever they are in the world without leaving the comfort of your home. Nor so does this address the apparent magical properties of books that allows them to be completely destroyed only to reappear instantly in pre-destroyed condition.

Now that I say that out loud, I kinda want a quest about the nature of books and bookcases in Runescape.
Maybe there is a Bookcase Network? (Ref: Lodestone network)
INb4PlayerOwnedLibraries:P

I like to think of the POH bookcases as an oversized journal of things we find. Rather like how the play carrier around a journal for quests. They do seem to like recording stuff, don't they?
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12-Oct-2016 06:51:02 - Last edited on 12-Oct-2016 06:51:38 by Solanumtinkr

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