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BabyBop

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I am a new player. After doing some quests and learning a bit about the lore of this game, I took a "god alignment" quiz on here and got Saradomin. However, I have read up on him and now I'm afraid that I could be making the wrong decision.

What bothers me about Saradomin is that he claims to be all about goodness, light, peace, etc. but he seems very unforgiving and sort of brutal. I especially dislike what he did to Garlandia.

That basically leaves me to decide between Seren and Armadyl. I am already wary of Armadyl simply because of his status as the "god of justice," but I am willing to give him a chance. I have read that Seren values all life, which is very important to me, but I don't know a lot about her.

To summarize, my question is: of these three gods (or any others that I may have missed), which one leans the most toward forgiveness, compassion, empathy, etc.?

25-Aug-2017 19:44:25

Hazeel

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Armadyl is basically another Saradomin. Says he's for peace, but is incredibly brutal and throws his followers away like trash. Seren is the most peaceful, but has a bit of a dark history as well. She tricked the Mahjarrat into killing each other so they could keep an evil monster (avoiding too many spoilers) alive. This also made the Mahjarrat a much more violent species. She treats her own followers with a lot more care though and seems to be avoiding large scale wars personally. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

25-Aug-2017 20:42:30

Ancient Drew
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There's no perfect god out there. Basically it depends on which god you happen to have some natural alignment to I would say. For example, while Saradomin and Armadyl are similar, Armadyl strives for justice first and always looks for a diplomatic route, while Saradomin seeks order and does whatever he thinks is necessary to nip evil at the bud if not outroot it. And Seren is the more peaceable of these gods, but as Hazeel said there is a dark history to her as well. But I won't spoil anything.

Based on a scale for forgiveness, compassion and empathy, I would rank them as this:

Forgiveness: Armadyl > Seren > Saradomin. Armadyl would forgive pretty much anyone, and is always polite to anyone he speaks to. Seren is highly loving and extremely passionate, and she regards the player as a friend. Saradomin is lower down in this department however, I will say.

Compassion: Saradomin > Seren > Armadyl. This is a close one between Seren and Armadyl in all honesty, but you should understand that Seren is driven by love and empathy. But Saradomin is the sort who acts very quickly; it seems that he has seen a lot of things in his time as a god, and says that there's a cycle of tragedy in things that he claims he has the experience and will to stop. And he's willing to lower himself morally if it means protecting as many people as he can in the long term. It might be the wrong choice, but in terms of compassion for his people, Saradomin is up there.

Empathy: Seren > Armadyl >/= Saradomin. Seren is empathy personified. Armadyl can empathise with a lot of people regardless of their backgrounds, and in all honesty Saradomin is actually close to if not on par with Armadyl here, due to his experience.

When it comes to protective methods, Seren isolated Tirannwn from the world, Armadyl strives for justice and tries to help people through diplomacy first, and Saradomin goes for governance and watches out for potential danger. However, the choice is yours.
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25-Aug-2017 21:16:14

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Seren or Armadyl.

If you like people with a flawed past and a bit of a temper, Seren.
If you like naive people with growing still to do, Armadyl.
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26-Aug-2017 00:13:21

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BabyBop said:
I am a new player. After doing some quests and learning a bit about the lore of this game, I took a "god alignment" quiz on here and got Saradomin. However, I have read up on him and now I'm afraid that I could be making the wrong decision.

What bothers me about Saradomin is that he claims to be all about goodness, light, peace, etc. but he seems very unforgiving and sort of brutal. I especially dislike what he did to Garlandia.



Guessing he read the award-winning guide "The Madness of Saradomin".

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26-Aug-2017 01:32:48 - Last edited on 26-Aug-2017 01:33:24 by CD_Paladin_C

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Be aware that some portion of the community is biased against Saradomin, be sure to not also forget to give his view a look.

Overall it can be argued that Saradomin's approach to dealing with those of predatory/aggressive nature or evil and that of which threatens civilization is more realistic than Armadyl/Seren, whom are too docile and could risk leading to a 'Demolitions Man' situation in their society within the long-run.

He is completely and utterly against the notion of competition for survival, which there isn't any confirmation on how Armadyl would view it. Saradomin favors security/order and everybody getting what they need over 'growth' if made to choose between the two.

He has a strong care ethic; views letting people fail on their own when you can help them as bad, and completely agrees with Seren's type of society but however it needs to expand and not be limited to a subset of people otherwise its bad by that virtue. When somebody is suffering including from wrong decisions and you do nothing, you are at fault.

"The currency of goodness is honor, it retains its value through scarcity. This is Saradomin's wisdom." ~Saradomin Godbook

Its also been said Saradomin is more in favor of a "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" outlook in some discussions we've seen.
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26-Aug-2017 05:25:18 - Last edited on 26-Aug-2017 05:43:40 by Padomenes

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Ancient Drew said:
There's no perfect god out there. Basically it depends on which god you happen to have some natural alignment to I would say. For example, while Saradomin and Armadyl are similar, Armadyl strives for justice first and always looks for a diplomatic route, while Saradomin seeks order and does whatever he thinks is necessary to nip evil at the bud if not outroot it. And Seren is the more peaceable of these gods, but as Hazeel said there is a dark history to her as well. But I won't spoil anything.
If you watch or read about the movie plot 'Demolitions Man' on wikipedia it shows what happens if we don't have a Saradomin. The peaceful society did not put down the violent criminals, instead they freezed them and left a loose end open where they thawed out.

When you see or read about those situations you know Saradomin was right all along. When you see or hear about situations where evil exploits and takes advantage of your 'mercy' aspect, to win and cause further harm you would know Saradomin was right all along.

Saradomin wants a world where innocent people are never ever subjected to a 'survival of fittest > virtuous/innocent' lifestyle. His outlook is that he wants to protect you no matter what it takes.

Saradomin can be equated to characters like these in tropes, though this one seems like more of a combo between him and Seren in personality(Which would be the perfect god if there was such in my opinion): http://grandia.wikia.com/wiki/Granas
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26-Aug-2017 05:42:25 - Last edited on 26-Aug-2017 05:46:29 by Padomenes

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BabyBop said:
To summarize, my question is: of these three gods (or any others that I may have missed), which one leans the most toward forgiveness, compassion, empathy, etc.?
Of the three, Seren; she's all about harmony and empathy and all that. But even she has a darker side. No spoilers, though.

As for the other two: Saradomin is the typical paladin god, but more tyrannical; very ends-justify-the-means. Armadyl is sort of a second Saradomin who used to be softer and more naive, but now he's a killer, too.

I personally like Saradomin more than the other two, but whatever floats your boat. One other note: there isn't a whole lot of Armadyl content in the game right now (almost nothing when compared to Saradomin/Seren), so if you do go with him you might be disappointed with that.
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26-Aug-2017 06:42:45 - Last edited on 26-Aug-2017 07:00:25 by Raleirosen

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Ancient Drew said:
Forgiveness: Armadyl > Seren > Saradomin. Armadyl would forgive pretty much anyone, and is always polite to anyone he speaks to. Seren is highly loving and extremely passionate, and she regards the player as a friend. Saradomin is lower down in this department however, I will say.
Armadyl and Seren should be equal. They have serious grudges against Zamorak and Sliske, respectively.
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26-Aug-2017 07:08:13 - Last edited on 26-Aug-2017 07:12:30 by Raleirosen

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