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Hello everyone!

I just completed the newest quest, Kindred Spirits, and in my opinion it contains some information regarding to Sliske's possible master. I have my thoughts hidden below so anyone, who hasn't done the quest, don't get spoiled (I hope so).


Yes, to my thoughts! In the quest, you will find information related to Sliske and his plans. It seems that he has observed the World Guardian since his/her birth because of the "Glory of Zaros" incident. The survivor, who ended up in Nabor's asylum, spoke the World Guardian's name and the name of Xau-Tak, about whom we have heard in Nomad's Elegy and Hero's Welcome quests.

Then there's the cutscene in which Sliske speaks to an unknown person while holding the Staff of Armadyl in the Stone of Jas chamber. Sliske tells the person, "I live to serve" which might indicate that he [Sliske] is speaking to his master whose indentity is so far unknown. I'm not sure about that, but I interpreted it so.

So who is Sliske's master? I suggest that it is Xau-Tak. This god is related to death, corpses and oceans, thus V tells that the planets, in which Xau-Tak has been, are now "corpse oceans". Sliske is a necromancer and for that reason it may be obvious that by serving Xau-Tak Sliske benefits by both getting undead and sadistic destruction.


What do you think? The quest is filled with lore and my interpretation from my findings led me to this conclusion. The upcoming Sliske's Endgame quests may either disprove or support this, but it shall be seen since this is just a theory.
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23-May-2016 15:56:42

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Yeah, after Wahisietel and some others discussed if there are other options than Xau-Tak, I have my eyes open to other possibilities. I still consider Xau-Tak as a possible candidate, but the 6th elder god seems to be also valid. Mah is going to rampage in Freneskae soon, so maybe the unborn elder god wants to do the same in Gielinor. Sliske gets destruction and the 6th elder god can reshape Gielinor while killing the others. The Endgame is a possible way to gain divine energy for the birth of the elder god (Sliske will gather all the gods again soon, isn't he?).

But I'm strongly against that Zaros is still Sliske's master. If I sided with Sliske in Fot* and this damaged Zaros, it would not make sense that Zaros still wants Sliske to be under his protection. I know Zaros lies sometimes but personally I would not be with my betrayer, how useful he could be.

Xau-Tak, being to me still a strong candidate, makes me the greatest sense. Both Sliske and him/her are related to death and it may be possible that they work together. Of course it can be so that Mod Wilson is just teasing but the connection and co-operation is plausible, although I doubt we'll see Sliske wearing a Pirate hat (since Xau-Tak is related to pirates too).

Padomenes said:
How about if Xau-Tak is the 6th elder god?


That is something what I began to think too. All the elder gods have three-letter names, but Xau-Tak has six letters divided into three-lettered words by a hyphen. Xau and Tak sound like names of elder gods to me at least. But then, if the 6th elder god is unborn, how she has Been able to travels from planet to planet as V has told?
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24-May-2016 07:39:10

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Mod Wilson said:
Hey there. Much as I enjoyed seeing this thread pop up I'd like to confirm something; the mysterious voice in that cutscene is NOT Xau-Tak. Its words carry significantly more weight. ;)

...No, literally*****;_> If Sliske comprehended the meaning behind the Black Howling of Xau-Tak then the parts of his brain responsible for processing languages and memory would gain enough gravity that his head would compact to the size of a child’* fist.


Thank you for replying, Mod Wilson! And also clearing some uncertainty here. So, ***-Tak is terminated from the candidates now. I think we should concentrate more on the dialogue between the unknown voice and Sliske then...
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24-May-2016 13:28:26

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Okay, I'll write that dialogue here then behind spoilers:


Sliske: It's beautiful, isn't it!
Unknown: Beauty is meaningless.
Sliske: Oh, come now, that's not true. Beauty makes the world bearable; without it, life is grey and empty.
Sliske: It evokes pure emotion. True beauty can bring empires to ruin or inspire the most evil men to heroic deeds.
Unknown: This conversation is irrelevant.
Sliske: Yes... I suppose you think it is.
Sliske: Thank you for the tip-off about this delightful thing by the way, I would never have found it on my own.
Sliske: It never occured me that the staff could be used that way.
Unknown: The staff is quite useful.
Sliske: Yes, and the look on that dragonkin's face was hilarious! Even better that now I have the stone.
Sliske: To think, they just cast this thing away, hoping no one would find it. They must have known the Stone wouldn't be hidden forever.
Sliske: Something like this... it wants to be found, it needs a user, false or not.
Unknown: Is there a point to this?
Sliske: Sorry, getting all poetic there for a moment, totally out of character I know.
Unknown: Enough! This will bring them?
Sliske: Oh yes, very much so. The siren song of the Stone will bring all the gods together
Slis**: It will be a gathering like no other, a monumental occasion that everyone will yearn to observe
Unknown: This bluster is pointless, simply make it happen.
Sliske: Yes, of course.
Sliske: I live to serve.


And here are some of my thoughts about that conversation:

- The unknown voice seems to be nihilistic/angry/impatient.
- Sliske follows his/her orders but is not totally subjugated under his/her command.
- Doesn't sound like Zaros and isn't definitely a dragonkin.
- Sliske thinks destruction = beauty.
- The unknown voice helped Sliske find the Stone of Jas after RotM.

But I argue that the Stone of Jas is not sentient because Sliske states like "a gold ring on a floor wants to be picked up".
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24-May-2016 13:36:22 - Last edited on 24-May-2016 13:46:34 by Loristic

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Maxi said:
Mod Raven said:

I could tell you the answer,
But then you would know,
And there'd be nowhere left,
For wild theories to grow.

I would answer the question,
Bring this lore into light,
But I looked at your theories,
And perhaps one is right?
Then again....perhaps not.


Oh, that was almost as good poetry as Sliske's in the dialogue in Kindred Spirits ;)

Anyway, assuming that some of us is right (or perhaps not), we have the 6th elder god, Zaros, Kerapac, Strange Glowing Orb, the Prehistoric Abyssal, Queen of Ashes, Balance Elemental, Kara-Meir, Jas, Mah, and many more others mentioned in this thread and in many other places like Reddit. Xau-Tak being an elder god is now impossible so we can take the god out of these candidates.
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24-May-2016 17:36:14

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I'm really doubting Zaros being Sliske's master because of the events in Fot* and also because of the manner in which Sliske's master speaks. Sliske literally betrayed Zaros in that quest by convincing us to sabotage his return. It doesn't make sense to me that Zaros stills wants to give orders to Sliske when he "has us" after the quest. The other thing related to that unknown voice is that it sounds too rude and impatient for Zaros. Zaros spoke to us patiently and kindly and even to Sliske despite the betrayal.

I think Guthix could be ruled out too since he is dead and he is not nihilistic and angry like the unknown voice. In addition of that, Sliske wants destruction in Gielinor whereas Zaros and Guthix don't want (Zaros wants more targeted due to the elder gods, but I think Sliske wouldn't enjoy that. Although Zaros is Machiavellian, to me he doesn't fit for Sliske's master anymore).

Kerapac has become in my opinion a good candidate after re-reading multiple posts related to him. Both the voice and him are quite rude and impatient (Kerapac can be quite eager to break the curse). The voice could also belong to a Necrosy*te dragonkin because by killing all the false users (many of the gods) the curse eases.

I'm not sure if examining that Sliske's Endgame artwork where the Stone of Jas breaks apart behind smiling Sliske could have an answer; the Stone of Jas might break up (if I recall right, there has been a thread about that theory...) so Sliske's master might want to destroy the Stone, so it fits well that Kerapac is working with Sliske. Also note that we went to Daemonheim in Kindred Spirits and discovered there a dragonkin lair before getting caught by a Sliske's wight. In One of a Kind, we went to visit Kerapac's laboratory behind Daemonheim so it may be so that Kerapac owns that prison... and Kerapac was also arranging Sliske's Saw-like game in Kindred Spirits.
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24-May-2016 19:52:02

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Cthris said:
But do you really think that the use of the stone causes them to forget everything they know about art? It definitely might shift their hierarchy of needs, which explains why they don't create it anymore, but I don't think they would loose their understanding of it.


I think they know and understand art, but the pain due to the Stone and its false users is so strong that art is meaningless asides pain. Pain has a negative influence on mood and feelings, therefore every dragonkin we meet is rude, angry and sometimes impatient because they are in constant pain that is about to "rip their bodies apart".

Yes, Kerapac is a "robot" and has a lot of patience since he is a Dactyl, but do you know the feeling that you have a solution to something, or a eureka moment, and then you feel that you have to do it as fast as possible regardless of everything else? Kerapac has sought for a long time a way to break the curse from his race and Sliske has a solution: bring all the gods together with the Stone of Jas. And based on that Sliske's Endgame artwork, the Stone may shatter, thus breaking the curse.

We know Sliske is sadistic and therefore he has this competition. Kerapac doesn't understand it and grows tired, angry and impatient due to waiting since he cannot do anything to the Stone without having probably the same fate as Tarshak from Hero's Welcome. Sliske thinks the destruction he causes with the competition is art, but Kerapac is blinded by the pain and demands Sliske kill the pain by finishing the competition.
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25-May-2016 05:54:54 - Last edited on 25-May-2016 05:55:25 by Loristic

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I have collected my thoughts again and thought more that dialogue between Sliske and his possible master. S/he might or might not be his master, but someone asking Sliske for a (small) favour. As we know, Sliske likes to do favours, note the cases of Barrows Brothers, Gregorovic and Linza. Sliske does his/her favour since it leads to a great disaster: the gathering of gods along with the Stone of Jas. Imagine what would happen there; the Necrosy*te dragonkin come there and annihilate everyone when they detect someone using falsely the stone, the Stone of Jas shatters and plausibly causing massive amounts of divine energy unleashing everywhere, or the gods begin violently fighting for the stone.

So, master maybe a strong word for a person like Sliske. He likes to do things alone, be free and independent from others (he disobeyed Icthlarin and then tried us to sabotage Zaros' return). A moocher could fit instead of a master, because for instance Linza and Gregorovic were unaware of Sliske's plans for them. Or just the one-who-asks-a-favour. But who could (or dare) to ask Sliske for a favour with such great and disastrous consequences? I have recollected (again) some candidates:

- The 6th Elder God: Since she is unborn, she would like to get born. That may require the Stone of Jas being shattered because it would then release a lot of divine energy.

- Kerapac: Destroying the Stone of Jas to break the curse from his race. If it doesn't happen, at least there is a high percentage that the false users kill each other in the event, easing the curse.

- Sliske: I admit, thinking that Sliske has a schizophrenia or a split-personality sounds comprehensible; he would just do a favour to himself and cause a lot of mayhem among the gods, which means destruction.

- Kara-Meir: Another candidate suggested in this thread. She is a Godless, so killing all the gods through force and action could be easily fulfilled by Sliske. Would Kara-Meir then become a Barrows Sister?
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30-May-2016 18:22:16

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Solanumtinkr said:
I don't think conversation fits the vast majority of the dragonkin. Or Kara-Meir. They don't understand beauty, it's an alien concept. So not a human or a lot of other things. It's a limited list. Though not beyond the talker being a complete lunatic. They know about the Staff, so it's possibly one of the elders avatar or minions making a move. Though I would not discount something from the last revision crawling out of the abyss.

Though I suppose there is a very outside chance of it being one of the more scientifically minded Dragonkin with the Mirror


Well, we know that the dragonkin have built statues, architectural buildings, murals and so on. In my opinion they wouldn't have made statues or any architectural details in their fortresses if they had considered beauty as an alien concept. I still claim that the dragonkin can recognize something as beautiful, but since they are in great pain, they think it is meaningless. The mysterious voice states that "beauty is meaningless".

The mysterious voice is nihilistic because s/he considers beauty as meaningless and the conversations as irrelevant, and impatient, because s/he wants Sliske to arrange the event already. I agree that if it were a Dragonkin, it would be more likely a Dactyl than a Necrosy*te. The curse, which makes the dragonkin be in pain and suffer, can be the reason behind the voice's opinions. If you had a way to get rid of constant, terrible pain, would you want it as fast as possible rather than waiting for thousands of years more? The Dactyl have tried to find a cure for thousands of years with self-discipline, without any results, so asking Sliske for a favour can be attractive; Sliske maybe has a way to get the cure, just like he had for Gregorovic. But with the dragonkin, Sliske gets more destruction along with it.
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30-May-2016 20:41:10

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ZAmorakZaros said:
Lethalintent said:
ZAmorakZaros said:

Would a free-for-all fight between the gods right next to the stone be enough to break it?


They said on livestream that endgame probably isn't going to end in an all out fight.

I also doubt fighting next to it will do anything to it, either physical damage would have to be done to it like nomad did, or drained and possibly overused to the point of cracking like Zamorak seemed to of almost accomplished.
What if all gods shot beams like in bol? and from all sides and the place where the beams met was right above the stone?


What if Sliske, being a trickster, gives gods pieces of the Stone of Jas until every piece of it is shared among the gods, and they began to fight over them? Nomad, depending on the World Guardian, was able to get a piece from the stone during Dishonour Among Thieves. The artwork for Sliske's Endgame supports this slightly, since almost every piece from the stone bears a face of a divine being, and Sliske has like "open hands".

That just came into my mind since it wouldn't plausibly mean that the gods would fight for the pieces during the quest, but after the quest.
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30-May-2016 20:46:50

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Kemtros said:
Hguoh said:
The only communication Zaros had with his followers pre-Fot* was via the portal at Senntisten. The cutscene was very clearly not happening in the restored Senntisten Temple. Zaros and Sliske literally couldn't have been talking to each other in that scene if it happens before Fot*.


I already tried to point this out, and it didn't work.

Sorry to be arrogant, but why is it so hard to make it clear that the mysterious voice is not Zaros?


I have wondered that too. The tone of the mysterious voice seems to be too rude and hasty for Zaros. And I think the meeting between Sliske and his master, or one who asks Sliske a favour, happens after Fate of the Gods and before Dishonour among Thieves. Sliske is serving someone else, other than Zaros, and the background in the cutscene is the same as in the latter quest.

So, I think we can safely place Zaros out of the possible candidates. To me and many others Zaros doesn't fit as the owner of the mysterious voice.
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01-Jun-2016 16:21:32

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Sepulchre said:
N7spongy said:
Sepulchre said:
Hguoh said:
Sepulchre said:
So... have we been told yet if it's someone we already know/know of, or if it's a new character?


According to Mod Raven, they already have decided who the voice will be. This does not eliminate the possibility of a new character, but it does make it seem unlikely.
Just because they've already decided who it is, doesn't mean it's someone they've told us about yet. It just means they know that character exists.. and I sure hope so, they made the game!
Its an existing character.
Source?


I doubt there is any source about that. But I think it would be odd that Sliske has arranged the endgame because a person X asked a favour from him, and then we have heard nothing about this person X before Sliske's Endgame. Introducing new characters in early quests in a quest series is good and fine, but doing a deus ex machina like character is to me unsatisfying. Therefore I think it is most likely an existing character (Kerapac, Kara-Meir, Sliske himself, etc.), or at least someone who has been mentioned briefly (the sixth elder god, Queen of Ashes, etc.)
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15-Jun-2016 09:56:26

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oClock said:
I listened to the podcast, and there was no reveal about the master, except that they have been planning it since tWW.


I just listened that podcast while writing this post. So planning Sliske's master began since the World Wakes and has ended already because we know it's an existing character who we have met/seen or about whom we have heard about. Any new character after KS aren't candidates (that includes Sueros, unfortunately :() for that reason.

Considering Kindred Spirits and what it revealed to us, Sliske has indeed two plans: the first one is the one which is going to help Sliske's master (gathering the gods) and the second one is the one meant for Sliske himself (taking our souls?). We know Sliske tends to lack loyalty to whom he serves, and therefore I suspect his master isn't quite smart or hasn't heard about Sliske's scheming nature. Gregorovic, Linza, the Barrows Brothers, etc. have bargained with him, and the results aren't quite nice. All of them have been desperate to get help, and Sliske is the only one who was able to help them.

I think that Sliske's master is a mortal and/or a human. I doubt it'll be the sixth elder god or anyone else divine. I know divine beings can be stupid enough to trust Sliske, but it's unlikely because of Sliske's public behaviour and past. I'll wait for the Godless podcast if it has something about Sliske's master (unlikely but possible).
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23-Jun-2016 19:59:20

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Sepulchre said:
Honestly though, my guess only somewhat fits one of the Criteria. The Raptor.
He would want at least one of the gods, as there was talk of him challenging a god to battle in a quest. He's so mysterious and powerful, that we really don't know the extent of his knowledge or power.


If that happened, another Signature Hero would probably fall, much like Xenia and Linza. I'm not saying the Raptor isn't a proper candidate (he actually is), but I'd expect him to die or disappear during Sliske's Endgame.

But I think both Kara-Meir and Kerapac match your criteria too. Both of them know about the Staff of Armadyl and the Stone of Jas, call them in their mortal names (Kerapac uses e.g. Stone of Jas instead of the Catalyst), both want to get rid of the gods (Kerapac is however more likely wanting to get rid of the Stone) and both of them (fits better on Kara-Meir) can be hurried and frustrated.

I'm not sure if this is relevant but according to the RuneScape wikia, the cutscene is "viewed from this character's perspective." That means we are observing the cutscene through the eyes of Sliske's master. S/he seems to be quite tall in my opinion, or I'm bad at estimating the height based on perspective. Kara-Meir (and the Raptor I think) are at our height while Kerapac or any other dragonkin are much taller. This is however based on information from the wikia so it may be pointless.
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24-Jun-2016 09:37:32

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Hguoh said:
^ The main issue with it being Kerapac, or any other Dragonkin for that matter, is that Sliske wouldn't have needed to trap another Dragonkin in order to use it's curse to find the Stone of Jas.

And it's likely not Strisath, the dragonkin Sliske captured, because he makes fun of the look on, 'that dragonkin's face,' in the cutscene rather than using a 2nd person pronoun (ex: the look on your face).

Edit: And the issue with the Raptor is a distinct lake of known experience with the Staff of Armadyl. It makes the possibility for him to suggest using the staff in some atypical way rather unlikely as well.


Sliske likes to be in the center of attention. Capturing Strisath and using him to locate the Stone of Jas is probably enough for a Dragonkin to get really angry. And when you introduce a really angry Dragonkin to a group of gods in a meeting. There wouldn't have been any drama if Sliske had Kerapac there. There's also a feud between Dactyls (Kerapac, Phalaks, etc.) and Necrosy*tes (Strisath, Sakirth, etc.) so I think Kerapac wouldn't care if Sliske captured and bullied one of his brethren.

I think almost every being in Gielinor knows that the Staff of Armadyl is "quite useful", as it is used to kill Guthix and many others like the warriors during While Guthix Sleeps. Otherwise it is used to fuse things together precisely, which more likely elder gods' knowledge and that a very few people actually know the Staff's real purpose. But I interpreted the cutscene so that the master just mentions the staff because Sliske used it to find Strisath. We are unsure if Sliske began to serve his master before his Ascension (so his master already knew how the staff can work) or after the Ascension (meaning that his master may not have much knowledge about the staff and he just heard from Sliske about its usefulness).
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24-Jun-2016 17:59:24

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Sepulchre said:
1.) [ ] Sliske specifically says that his method of luring the gods to gather would be the Stone, yet nobody was aware that he had the Stone until MPD. In all likelihood, this took place AFTER MPD and refers to the Endgame itself.
2.) [ ] This could be looking too deeply into the wording, but saying "that Dragonkin" wouldn't be the correct way to talk to a Dragonkin. 'the other Dragonkin,' calling the Dragonkin by name, or even 'on your brother's face' would work, but the wording here suggests the voice is not a Dragonkin either.


1. I'm not quite sure about this yet because we don't know how long Sliske has had a new master. And I'm pretty sure his master has known that Sliske has had the Stone for a long time, before we became aware of it. But I think he has served him/her some time before the World Wakes as killing Guthix in fact allows the gathering of the gods to happen in Gielinor due to lack of Guthix' edicts.

2. What if Sliske doesn't care about names? I think a Dactyl wouldn't mind if Sliske called and mocked a Necrosy*te like that. The impatience and nihilism of Sliske's master may also explain why such a wording didn't get the master angry.

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As I speculated above that Sliske has had his new master before the World Wakes. His master probably wanted Guthix to die. Why? Because the god of balance prevented all the gods from coming to Gielinor. And Gielinor is the thing in this speculation. This Endgame meeting could happen everywhere, like in Mazcab or Freneskae. Either Gielinor is just the most sought planet in the universe or someone particular wants the gods meet in specifically in Gielinor very close to the Stone (e.g. an elder god). So, we could have the formula "gods + a meeting in Gielinor with the Stone = ???"
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01-Jul-2016 13:21:52

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Lethalintent said:
I think it's Death you know.

Ever notice he just suddenly became widely involved in Sliske Storylines?

TWW, MPD, DAT, NE.

Granted none of these are forced, it makes sense for him to be there.

But isn't it all too....convenient?

I don't have some over the top convoluted theory, but with his strange frequent presence and following the bread crumbs that supposedly exist right at the beginning with Guthix dying, He's the only connection I can find.


He is featured frequently in quests related to Sliske because:

- He is a Guardian of Guthix and hence he came to protect Guthix in tWW
- Sliske used him to lure Icthlarin into his Ascension in MPD
- Death has a grudge towards Nomad and for that grudge he is featured in both DAT and NE

I doubt Death is Sliske's master because all of his appearances in Sliske's quests indicate that he is on our side. Icthlarin and Death are "friends" and I suppose they share Sliske as their common enemy. He has reaped dead people for thousands of years, like Icthlarin has escorted souls. Sliske is a punk who disrupts the cycle of life by using necromancy.

By stating that it's too convenient for him to be present is to me somewhat odd since he belongs to the cast of Sliske's quest series, just like us, Icthlarin , gods, Nomad, etc. He just has a big role in it, but not because he is Sliske's master who is hiding on our side. I don't deny he could be the master, but I doubt it.
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02-Jul-2016 11:06:05 - Last edited on 02-Jul-2016 11:07:24 by Loristic

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A great momentum is building in Sliske quest series, and it's increasing. This momentum is increasing because of great storytelling, things at stake, revelations and so on. Now we know that Sliske has a master, and it'll be a summit in the series when his/her identity is revealed. Because we have this great momentum, the culmination should be proper for it. It could be possible that Sliske's master is us from another dimension, but it'd make the momentum go flat on that spot although it should slow down slowly after a satisfied revelation.

Kemtros said:
I think the 2017 survey might also give an idea. Is it just me, or did anyone notice that the Sixth Age pillar options in the poll seemed more interested in the Elder Gods than the Dragonkin? I figured that the Dragonkin would be the most natural choice for what's next, and the Elder Gods would be saved for last, while the third pillar would move up from being just the Stone of Jas contest to a larger young god storyline. [ ]


I may not remember correctly, but has Sliske's master been already decided? We know that it'll be an existing character who is at least mentioned briefly and it is someone whose attitude and knowledge match on his/her speech in that cutscene. It'd be wise for JaGeX to listen the community, and the success of Sliske's master probably affects the future quests in 2017 so the developers may have left the identity of the master ambiguous (the characteristics of the master can fit on many candidates) until they know what kind of quests we want.
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06-Jul-2016 15:29:27

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Jake Bass said:
Keen5974 said:
So at the end of the new quest, Jas is all like Why did you kill our agent?
Is this proof that he worked for them, perhaps as some manipulated attempt to awaken the elder gods?


Probably that. But I had a few moments where I thought she could have been talking about the stone instead of Sliske...


Jas could have meant the Stone too, but in her and your dialogue, you can state, if I remember right, that "He endangered the world", which indicates that Sliske, due to the pronoun "he", was Jas' agent.

Anyway, I really liked how, after a lot of speculation since May, we finally get to know whom Sliske served and who was the mysterious voice in Kindred Spirits. From multiple possible candidates, it was Jas who was the mysterious voice. But Jas' voice in Sliske's Endgame isn't similar, in my opinion, with the voice in Kindred Spirits: in Kindred spirits, the voice speaks without pauses and angrily, whereas in Sliske's Endgame, Jas speaks with pauses and calmly. I'm not trying to falsify the revelation though, but it started to bother me a bit :)
Loristic, the Seeker of Lore, the Archivist of Knowledge, the World Guardian, the Diplomat of Cabbages, and the Regent of Miscellania. May anima mundi be with you and hail Guthix!

19-Dec-2016 22:07:50

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