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I thought I had already replied here but apparently not! > )

Support, however:

1. New colors & untradeable
2. Make existing ones untradeable

Cheerio! > )

edit: also nice convincing counter-arguments on the first page, I'd hire you as a lawyer!
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23-Nov-2016 21:30:12 - Last edited on 23-Nov-2016 21:31:42 by Blackwing

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Jokku23 said:
TomTom said:
I feel as if you are wanting party hats on the TH for a means of gaining wealth without actually working for it.

Don't worry! I'm not after wealth. I'm just wishing to have fun with partyhats. That's what they were designed for. Cheers!

To add, anyone who wants to gain wealth can just buy bonds, it's pointless to do TH for money! > )
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26-Nov-2016 17:17:04

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Burak said:
Yes but if (supposably) tradeable partyhats were on treasure hunter it'd be different.. People would actually risk trying their luck and making hundreds of millions if not billions of coins rather than buying 100 bonds.

But don't make them tradeable, and make all phats untradeable, problem solved (well except that some people'll probably continue to be stupid and think it's worth trying to buy gp via TH, but they'll learn the hard way sooner or later anyway)! > )
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27-Nov-2016 22:59:37

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Burak said:
I wouldn't mind if partyhats became untradeable but i know people that will. I mean it's a little too late for change. Safest option is to keep things how they are.

Sometimes it's better to take the risk, just look at EoC :P I mean if any of the discontinued rares that I have were tradeable, I'd definitely support making them untradeable. Money can be made elsewhere and the feels are better when they're not associated with money.
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28-Nov-2016 22:25:03

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Lee M said:
your supporters list is (for the most part) just a bunch of titles that are in-game that you've ripped from the rs wiki, lmao.

Look closer, you might see a pattern... ;)

Draco Burnz said:
Draco Burnz said:
Id only agree if they made them mems only;)


If this is what you took as a support, it was clearly sarcasm.

Tbf, what's supposed to indicate sarcasm there? Without the winkie face, it'd be impossible to tell whether it's sarcasm or not, and even with it, you know, I've seen you use winkie face lots of times before where you haven't been sarcastic.

If you don't want to risk mistaken for being serious, just use the "/s". ;)
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28-Nov-2016 22:31:34

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Draco Burnz said:
Yet if you look at most of my other posts its clear i dont support this.

Plus my first ever post was this:

Draco Burnz said:
No support.


So please tell me how he couldve mistaken it?

People can change their minds, and so I only looked at the post you first pointed out; don't just assume that I've read even most of the replies on a thread with over 300 posts :P
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28-Nov-2016 22:54:05

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Anima Nexus said:
Show some appreciation and celebrate the true value of an origianl partyhat. And I'm not talking GP.

Well then to do that, let's make them untradeable.
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02-Dec-2016 07:28:30

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Jokku23 said:
What you are basically saying is that those who want to have fun should play OSRS. No wonder why OSRS is more popular.

Just because OSRS is fun doesn't mean RS3 couldn't be fun as well.

Idk how, but this gave me a chuckle out of the blue, cheers! > )
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03-Dec-2016 20:16:01

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Jokku23 said:
Teal partyhats sound cool!

Support for giving Jokku a teal phat! > )
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04-Dec-2016 14:07:14 - Last edited on 04-Dec-2016 14:07:22 by Blackwing

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Voraiya said:
I got a better idea for Jagex to score a few more bucks.

Instead of a full phat...I say..we do this.....pieces of a party hat.

So example. We take a Purple Phat.

Instead of a whole Purple Hat. We go with 3 pieces.

1 Purple Party Hat Top
2 Purple Party Hat Middle
3 Purple Party Hat Bottom

After that the player will have to combine them to get their Purple hat. AND players cannot trade the pieces either. They can only trade when it's a full Phat.

I got an even better idea; instead of combining them to a hat, just keep them as individual pieces and compete for the most amount of pieces! > )
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09-Dec-2016 22:47:47

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H 5 said:
I'll support if the TH party hats were different colours. other than that good thread, GL

Cyan and black, that's the colors we need. ;)
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12-Mar-2017 13:59:46

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Prince Zelda said:

Yeah, there's something sensational about getting your hands on an item that has such historic value, but it'd only be the case if it's an actual copy from the old times and not a newly made replica. The computer might process and treat it the same way regardless, but the human mind is more complex than that, and it just wouldn't feel the same.

It'd be real nice if people who support re-releasing old rares as they are, would stop to think for a second, and realize that there are other options, such as new cosmetics or altered versions of the old. It's not a case of "if I don't get it in particular I'll never be satisfied".
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12-Nov-2017 15:48:04

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Resourful said:
Hi, im RavenCoeur, like everyone else who posted on this thread.

I don't want to work for my money.

I want a free hand out from jagex, because i don't know how to apply myself and reach a goal.

I don't want to spend 250 hours of PvMing for a partyhat because its hard.

I want jagex to give me what i want or else they'll lose my 1 bond every 3 months of income!

I want to keep doing 4 elite clues a year and cry when i don't get rich

I want to whine about being unable to afford a phat when i'm not even maxed in 2017

Thank you! i support re release partyhats on treasurehunter!

Hehe, the satire game is perfect! > )
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07-Dec-2017 16:43:05

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yalla yolo 1 said:
Onv said:
Onv here,

This thread has turned into a troll thread basically. You can hope and wish for Phats to be re-released but that will never happen seeing it would crash the market INFLATING Any other item to an outrageous price leaving the cost of playing not even worth trying. Jagex knows better than to do this because it will cost them more money and players in the long run and eventually terminate the very existence of Runescape, and we know that they can't afford to lose anymore players than they already have so I have to agree with Key Player on this one.

Thank you,
Onv


Agreed.

+1

Keep the old colors discontinued.

If you must, make new colors, but be sure to respect the veterans and keep the original colors' historic value intact! > )
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07-Dec-2017 16:45:03

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Voro said:
And to everyone saying they got it from PvM, well I don't believe you I do twin furies for 10 hours everyday and I get good killtimes (before anyone calls me out, about 1:30, scythe t90 prayer, augmented tetsu) and I am not even close to a partyhat. So stop lying.

...but your alog says you've been doing Telos, not Twin Furies? So umm, what?

But still, let's imagine for a second that you have actually been doing Twin Furies for 10 hours every day... why would you do that? If the best boss you can make money with is Twin Furies, you aren't even to the proper endgame yet. And if you aren't to the proper endgame yet, why are you concerning yourself with a goal that is not intended for your skill level? Twin Furies are a meh boss to make money with in the long term, as it's one of the easiest bosses, so the drops are in big supply, and 2/3 of the unique money drops are trash compared to the other GWD2 unique drops. Once you get the pet drops, you should move on to better bosses, like Telos for example, which you have been doing. So keep up the work with Telos, and you'll get your partyhat well-earned eventually! > )

The bigger the build-up, the better the satisfaction!
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19-Jun-2018 21:48:15

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Jokku23 said:
Sintacks said:
This is idiotic beyond belief at this point. All these people wanting partyhats on TH are the first to bitch about OP TH promos and MTX as a whole, smh.

Although I personally have not complained about TH promos, a lot of people complain about them because they would like to see more cosmetic promos instead of continuous xp selling. That's why they support this thread.

Cosmetic promos on Solomon's store, though. Whether you gamble for exp, gp or cosmetics, gambling is still gambling, which is not appropriate as a form of MTX. > )
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20-Jun-2018 20:01:12

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Draco Burnz said:
Blackwing said:
Cosmetic promos on Solomon's store, though. Whether you gamble for exp, gp or cosmetics, gambling is still gambling, which is not appropriate as a form of MTX. > )


TFW its been stated time and time again th isnt gambling.

Plz look up the definition of the word "gambling".

https://puu.sh/AIUcG/452cf7a8fa.png

Th doesnt fit into either definition.

It does, actually; buying keys is a risky action, because you aren't guaranteed to get what you want (and what you want is the desired result), so if you don't get lucky, you'll have basically wasted your money. TH might give a reward of some kind for every key, but it's there for legal purposes only, and doesn't change the practice, which is risking your money for potentially no return of your desire. > )
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20-Jun-2018 21:32:15 - Last edited on 20-Jun-2018 21:32:41 by Blackwing

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Draco Burnz said:
Take bosses for example, most ppl either want pet or a certain drop, so if they go 1k+ kills dry does that mean they "gambled" their time?

Well it kinda is a gamble as well, since you risk spending your time for no gain of your desired drop. Thing is though, unlike bossing, TH takes no skill, is not balanced, and exploits you for your money. One could even say that there's not just one type of gambling, and that the one TH is based around is predatory, for the reasons already explained before. > )
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21-Jun-2018 04:38:12

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IceKitty6 said:
Support,

why?...
because i like your cheerfull attitude.
And i want to cheer up others too.

Give new players alternate versions and let the veterans keep the original versions -> everyone is cheerful! > )
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01-Aug-2018 14:35:43

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Sintacks said:
Jokku23 said:
Old School 80k players
RS3 20k players


OSRS constantly releasing phats isn't why the game is more popular than RS3. Lol.

It's the next evolution of Munclemath™:

Munclelogic™

I have a white partyhat and I have a white dog.
-> My dog is a partyhat. (Or is my partyhat a dog?) > )
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02-Aug-2018 20:30:36

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UrekMazino said:
The only people who would be pissed off by the re-release of party hats are the merchers who spent billions on them. Lets be real, barely anyone will be quitting the game (if any at all) just because an end game goal is no longer as prestigious. There are other things players and work towards other than buying phats.

Not entirely true though; I and people like me would be pissed off too, and I don't own a single partyhat. That's because:

1. I can understand from personal experience how it feels like to be deceived by Jagex, and as such, I wish no-one else would have to become a similar victim, because I can tell it really sucks when you do become one.

2. Even if you happened to not be affected personally this time, what's stopping you from being deceived in the future? If you let Jagex do whatever it pleases, sooner or later you'll be at the receiving end of the deception, because you allowed them to go out of control. It's much healthier for everyone in the long term to consider the game integrity over personal desires of getting something.

You don't have to own a partyhat to know that re-releasing them would be a bad idea; you only need to have some understanding of long term consequences of certain actions. > )
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03-Aug-2018 13:28:44

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Jokku23 said:
Have they said partyhats would never be rereleased again?

Yes, I remember the mention during a livestream long ago in particular, though as it tends to happen with livestreams, which livestream and at what time stamp is now lost to me.


Jokku23 said:
I took here the part of the quote I agree with! :D

Hmm... > )
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04-Aug-2018 20:46:34

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Jokku23 said:
There have been many occasions when players have asked them to confirm if partyhats will never be rereleased, but Jagex never confirmed this, so it would be big news if they did during a live stream, and I'm sure someone would have a source for this (and it would have been updated to RS Wiki https://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Partyhat).

Tbh I don't really ever see people asking that anywhere, because they're already under the impression that they're meant to be discontinued. More so there's the odd thread here and there asking for a rerelease instead.

About the wikia, it's mostly accurate for sure, but personally I come across articles missing old information there every now and then. It's not common of course, but it happens.


Jokku23 said:
I'm not saying you are lying but you said it was a long time ago, so you probably don't remember it 100%. It could have been one Jmod saying "Personally I believe partyhats should never be rerelased again" or "We would never add partyhats" when discussing Balthazar's Big Raffle etc.

If it helps at all, I can list a few things about it:

1. It was a consensus among the jmods on the sofas.
2. It was talked about on rereleasing partyhats in general, not just on specific context.
3. The stream itself took place around 2014-2016.

Now, of course, if you still don't believe this is good enough, that's understandable, you don't have access to my memories after all; but even if we assumed that Jagex has never said anything regarding this, and you wanted to re-release the partyhats, it would do a lot more damage than good.

cont.
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05-Aug-2018 18:08:40

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cont.

Like said before, it only "works" in OSRS, because it was made very clear from the beginning that partyhats would always get rereleased. (And I said "works" in quotation marks, because even though they're technically fine as they are because it was made clear from the beginning how they'd work, ironically they're more appreciated in RS3 than OSRS, because inevitably they lack value/don't matter in OSRS as a result.)

While it would be nice to be able to give everyone what they want and have it not hurt anything, some things are simply meant to be and best to be left as they are, in order to have a meaningful game experience with integrity. In those cases, it's best to look for other things, something entirely new or similar, yet with a distinct difference. > )
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05-Aug-2018 18:08:48

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Jokku23 said:
Hmm, maybe it was just a dream? I have dreamed of them saying Anja would give partyhats druing livestream, but it was just a dream, so they were not actually deceiving anyone.

Nah, partyhats don't interest me that way. If you reckon, I'd dream about something more twisted than that. > )


Jokku23 said:
Sorry, but we really need a source. 2014-2016 live streams are still in Twitch, but I didn't find anything regarding partyhats.

That's fine, though out of curiosity, how would you go about watching the entirety of 3 years worth of Jagex's livestreams this quickly? The partyhat question was a small part of the livestream, rather than there being a livestream dedicated to the subject of partyhats. That's why I don't bother going through looking for old information from livestreams; it's too much effort for the gain in return, because at best it satisfies a single person or two, and at worst they'd still persist to disagree (and from personal experience, the latter is often the case; I believe you would be the former, but even so, it'd be too much effort still).


Jokku23 said:
Oh? How?

By ruining their historical value, by ruining their gp value unnaturally (which would lead to prices of certain other items skyrocketing, likely those that are actually useful too), by removing a legendary goal where there already is desperate need for more such goals, not less, etc.

Sure, people would be all about the partyhats for the first short while, but only because of the shock value of something controversial happening, not because they'd care about the hats for the long term afterwards. The current owners on the other hand, do care about them for years to come, as each hat has stood the test of time.
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05-Aug-2018 20:12:37

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Jokku23 said:
But dreams can be very realistic. How can you be sure? 8)

Doesn't work on me bratan! > )


Jokku23 said:
Reviving their historical value as cheerful holiday item!

You can't unring the bell; currently we know that the certain discontinued items are from X point in time, and if we added more, it'd no longer be possible to tell which are from which time period. On the other hand, more and better holiday items can be made for cheerfulness! > )


Jokku23 said:
People know very well that they will crash when rereleased, and that's completely natural. Quite the contrary, it would be unnatural not to do something just to protect the wealth of (bad) investors!

Natural price drops occur from changes that aren't intentionally made to ruin the value of X (in this case partyhats). E.g. making T92 weapons devalued T90 weapons of the same kind, which is natural because higher tier = better stats = more desired (and the game has to evolve), but if you e.g. updated T90 weapons to have T1 stats just for the laughs, that would be unnatural devaluing, because you intentionally wanted the price to drop.


Jokku23 said:
People paying for those items what they are worth is not really a bad thing because you can always get more of them in game.

There are some very RNG-heavy drops that most people can't be expected to earn on their own (which is why they're tradeable), and if they became more expensive because of this, well... you get the idea, they'd be more screw'd than missing out on a cosmetic hat.


Jokku23 said:
You can still have that goal because you can overpay for the partyhat even after they have crashed.

Overpaying for the sake of overpaying is stupidity, not an achievement.
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06-Aug-2018 19:34:39

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I am Mattboi said:
Is it fair to say that most people who own a phat may also buy their membership with in game coins, therefore Jagex makes no real money from them? Hmmmm...

Jagex makes money from your membership, regardless of whether you bought it directly with real money or by spending gp on bonds; those who use the latter, have their real money cost to that membership being paid by whoever bought the bond(s) with real money. If people didn't buy bonds with gp, neither would others buy them with real money to sell for gp, meaning less real money for Jagex (bond membership being more expensive too in the real money cost).
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16-Oct-2018 09:22:54

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UrekMazino said:
CoolBeans568 said:
Then leave it as a osrs only thing.

Not everything needs to happen on both games.

Can use the exact same argument the otherway around, not everythings needs to be exclusive to their respective game.

When it makes sense to share something from one game to another, sure.

But like OSRS set the precedent from beginning that the holiday items wouldn't be discontinued, so did RS3 that theirs would be discontinued.
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16-Oct-2018 13:16:13

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@Sintacks, if you think about it and see what I mean, they're playing themselves by doing that, which is great humor more than anything. > )

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Sintacks said:
If this happens, phats would crash drastically and as a result of this, other stuff like T90 gear would raise in price exponentially. I don't know about you guys, but I don't wanna pay 800m for a nox scythe or 2.1b for a Staff of Sliske. No support whatsoever, sorry.

T92 would definitely be a target if partyhats were rereleased, yeah. Not sure about T90 since it's become more commonplace than it used to be, but it could still work I guess. Maybe the players who adamantly want a rerelease are too casual to care though, which is a shame to those who do.
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11-Nov-2018 09:39:19

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Thundercats said:
Feels like after a week of everyone having Phats, almost all players will stop wearing them in order to find something else to wear that will make them unique. I have never played OSRS, but I'd be curious to see just how many people wear Partyhats on there when they are readily available (similarly to what this kind of update would do on RS3).

RS3/OSRS player here; vast majority don't wear partyhats, regardless of location/skill levels etc. Like said, they're almost worthless in OSRS, so people don't care about them anymore. Although a while back, Jagex polled "information gathering" on discontinued items being added to OSRS, and even though they said existing holiday items wouldn't be discontinued, people still started buying some partyhats expecting them to be discontinued and their price went up slightly. It seems some of them still don't know that Jagex specifically said that items like partyhats wouldn't be discontinued, so their price is perhaps higher right now than it should be.
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14-Nov-2018 19:17:52

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Jokku23 said:
People do care, but those who wanted to brag with them don't. OSRS doesn't have cosmetic overrides, so you can't expect people to wear them all the time, but they are used in partyhat parties. Vast majority has used them at some point, and partyhats have given much more enjoyment in OSRS than in RS3.

I'm not talking about all the time, but rather at any given time; even if people are doing things like bankstanding skills, where it doesn't matter what you wear on your head or if you wear anything at all, people still don't bother wearing partyhats. I've seen partyhats being worn more frequently on RS3, which is ironic, considering that they're discontinued there, and that there is a much larger selection of cosmetics available, and that the game is less popular than OSRS.

Also, you do remember that partyhats were at one point very common in RS3 (before it was RS3), right? Given that, as well as the fact that they're much more meaningful in RS3, I think they've given much more enjoyment in RS3 across the entire existence of Runescape.
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15-Nov-2018 18:39:32 - Last edited on 15-Nov-2018 18:45:17 by Blackwing

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Jokku23 said:
But people use them while skilling!

Like said though, no matter where I go, partyhats are a very, very rare sight. That includes various skilling locations.

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About that quote of yours; at first I didn't even understand the image, because the tree pretty much "swallows" the whole image, but even when I saw the partyhat... what's the point? I even went to read the source of that quote to try and get more context, but you simply say that your clan disagrees and show a picture with one partyhat being worn.

Like yeah, it displays that one guy at one point wore a partyhat, so if you wanted to be literal and prove that at least 1 person has worn a partyhat despite them being worthless, you proved it. But that's just that, as a sample size or other kind of serious contribution it's totally useless.


Jokku23 said:
Moreover, if I am skilling in a bank and I'm not wearing my partyhat, this doesn't mean I don't care about them anymore. It's very nice that in Old School I can use my partyhat whenever I choose to.

...but you can use your partyhat in RS3 as well whenever you choose to if you own one. > )

In all seriousness though, I would have something more (less humorous) to say about this, but I don't think I should say it in public because it's more personal, so if you want to hear it, PM me when you have time and ask for it. I'm not gonna write it down because it's not that important, so I might just forget it, which might be for the best.
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16-Nov-2018 19:38:34

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Jokku23 said:
This sounds very surprising, considering you have to be super rich in RS3 to even obtain one. One explanation could be that you are elite player and hang out with elite players.

I wouldn't really consider myself to be elite in any regard in RS3, because powercreep ruined the chance for me to be that skill-wise. In OSRS you could maybe say that I am, yeah, but because of how popular OSRS is and how it has been designed (mostly trying to keep players of all levels in contact of one another, like how there is only 1 GE still for everyone), more often than not I hang out with non-elite players than elite ones (because there are still relatively few elite players in terms of skill levels).

So whether it's surprising or not, that's just how it is: people really don't bother to use them in OSRS. And if you look at the discontinuity polls held a while back, it also points to that: majority would've wanted discontinued rewards, and technically one of the two polls would've passed, with the other being very close to passing as well.


Jokku23 said:
The game was not RS3 before it was. By RS3 I meant RS3! (Sorry if this was confusing :P)

Well yea, but I don't think it's fair to compare to just the RS3 era of the current RS3 game. It's like saying a pre-RS3 era holiday event was a waste of development time because new players from the RS3 era didn't get to experience it, ignoring the fact that at the time, 10s if not 100s of thousands of players did get to experience it. :P
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16-Nov-2018 19:39:32

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Jokku23 said:
To prove the existence of something, it's sufficent to give just one example. People claimed that no one wears partyhats in Old School, but this is not true.

If we really wanted to be that technical though, your image proves that someone *has worn* a partyhat in OSRS at some point in time (specific time being unknown unless you mentioned it somewhere else). It does not prove that people still wear them.

Like yeah, when partyhats were first possible to wear in OSRS, many probably did; but once they realized that they were no longer meaningful like in RS3, people stopped caring about them.


Jokku23 said:
Like I said, if I am skilling in a bank and I'm not wearing my partyhat, this doesn't mean I don't care about them anymore. Maybe they are not used as much in everyday life, but people use them while celebrating occasionally, whenever they choose to.

Certainly not enough to wear them when you could, though. If there's no disadvantage to wearing one and you could, why not do so if you care about them so? :P


Jokku23 said:
I'll let you know next time we arrange a partyhat party so that you see :)

Hmm, is this reality? > )


Jokku23 said:
Keywords: if you own one. There are not even enough partyhats for everyone. This has to change.

Meh, I only put that there because it's factual; not everyone owns everything, common or no. Same keywords apply to OSRS; since partyhats are so worthless, many don't bother owning one because space is limited.


Jokku23 said:
But OSRS already have continued partyhats. And those polls were not about partyhats.

Yes, but their prices went up because many expected them to be made discontinued in the future as a part of the overall process. Even if for not reading the poll.
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17-Nov-2018 22:15:04

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Jokku23 said:
Yes, the proof is not rigorous because that's not possible. Even if I posted the same picture now, you could 5 minutes later say that it doesn't prove people still wear them. It's a heuristic proof based on the principle that if no one wears partyhats, I wouldn't be able to log in and see someone wearing them.

Obviously, but it'd at least be a much more accurate proof than an image that is at minimum a year and 9 months old (assuming that it was taken around the time you posted it in that quote and not even older than that), so there's that to consider too. > )


Jokku23 said:
I still don't see why it's a choice between "wear them whenever possible" or "not care about them". And maybe there are disadvantages.

What are the disadvantages if there are any?

If there's no practical obstacle (like that you're doing combat and need stats over fashion), and you care about the partyhats so, why would you not wear one in that situation? Personally, when I'm doing something that doesn't require other practical equipment, I'm gonna wear my fashion outfit that I care about. If I didn't, then clearly I would not care that much about it, to not wear it when I well could.


Jokku23 said:
In Old School, everyone can obtain one. In RS3, this is not possible because there aren't enough of them. This is a big difference.

The end result is the same on both games: many don't own one. The reason why that is, is what changes from one game to another.
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18-Nov-2018 17:33:28

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Jokku23 said:
Is this better?

If not, let me know and I take another next time I log in.

Ah yes, I forgot about that one - well played! > )


Jokku23 said:
Does Old School have bank presets? If not, then it takes time to switch gear everytime, even if you could use them while skilling.

Uhh, unless one's bank is a complete mess and has their outfit all over the place, we're talking about less than a minute here. So unless one was planning to skill for just a couple minutes only before moving to doing something else, it really shouldn't be that big of a deal if one truly cares. Yeah bank presets speed it up further, but they aren't really needed.

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Anyhow, I could keep going with the other parts too, but I think you'll agree with me that it isn't really leading to anything productive anymore, so I'll just stop it here and go back to the "alternative versions are fine but not originals" stance.
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18-Nov-2018 18:52:17

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Eden Syvian said:
Let me rephrase, ahem.

This thread makes me wish that our initial interpretation of the Mayan Calendar was correct, and we all infact fucking died in 2012. Our brains have been diluting instead of evolving ever since and this thread and everyone who supports it is proof.

The party hat isn’t just a paper hat “W i t H n O C o M b a T s T A t S”

Take a bit of pride in your achievements and stop grovelling at the feet of others with discontent that they’ve got something your greedy paws wants without any of the effort. I know it’s 2018 and this generation gets everything they want and more for free and the notion of hard work is dillusional, but you can’t just take such a treasured, coveted item as the party hat and start handing it out to people. The hats are priceless because of their historical significance, their sentimental value and their nostalgic appearance. The day they are released in to the game again all of those qualities will immediately vanish and you will be left with simply a paper hat with no combat stats and all you fairies will rejoice and fashionscape at the G.E, spinning with your ed8r, wasting time and xp that could be spent earning a party hat.

And you know what? A week at the very most later you’ll toss it in to your bank. It will never see the light of day again because you’ll have stripped it of any value it once had.

The supporters of this page have completely disregarded the efforts and great achievement of those who own party hats and have often in their replies mocked and shamed players for doing so. (Albeit in a subtle ‘cheerful’ way) and it’s disgusting.

Now, if this is a troll thread... ggwp you got me.

Speaking of the Mayans and 2012 being the end for us, what a coincidence is it that the predecessor of TH was released in (early) 2012, and how this thread is specifically about releasing partyhats via TH? > )
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21-Nov-2018 10:23:52

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Eden Syvian said:
Merching the hats doesn't come without risk either as you say. Instead of losing a few hundred thousand on bad judgement, you can lose tens and hundreds of millions, if not billions overnight.

Precisely, this is something that the people who are jealous of partyhat owners never seem to understand; you can always lose money, even with partyhat merching. This is because for every partyhat mercher that makes a profit from them, another makes a loss, either in pure gp by having to buy their hat back for higher than they sold it, or by losing the hat entirely if they don't/can't buy it back anymore. There is no "press F to print money" feature on the partyhat, the money needs to be earned just like any merching profit.

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@Jokku,

Since the thread is about to cap out, I feel like this is the time I offer you a handshake: even though I don't really like this idea (though I'm pretty sure you once said to me something about this thread that you left out from here), the fact that you kept it going for over 2 years with such engagement and wit is admirable IMO. Well played, truly! > )
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22-Nov-2018 19:34:17

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