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Nitemare-Rex said:
althugh i suggested before that grey party hat, black party hat, chrome party hat,


Dont see why the phat from a quest, let alone the 200th, should be made into a promo item.

As for the other, sure, as long as they are untradeable just like chromatic.
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Sleepy Trev said:
If you looked not even 5 years ago blue phat was like 200m, which was like 5 nex drops in a trio/quad. It wasn't hard to get one back then and many people kept theirs. People worked and earned what they achieved, don't ruin their greatest possession in runescape. If you don't have one and want one, don't make it easier and buyable, work for it and earn it like most people did.


100% agree.
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Axiomatic said:
Sorry Jokku, you've taken your cheerfulness to the next level I can't tell you're serious or not..

Even I look forward to having a partyhat one day and wouldn't by any way accept something like this. Community's already complaining over skilling sets with a few bonuses lmao.


Agreed:/
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Burak said:
1. be fortunate enough to have collected it or bought it in-game when it was dirt cheap.


One of the upsides to having an old acc.

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2. Resort to immoral means such as scamming/gambling/staking.
"or use real life money and purchase one via bonds."


Or go bossing and earn the money... Yes that is a thing:@

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3.Yes because people are going to spend $1k-4k on a paper hat.


You'd be suprised on what ppl would do for rares nowadays.
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Ferber said:
I own a couple rares but not a party hat (though I did have one in the past when it was worth 10 mil :P)

even though I don't own one, I don't want this to happen.
It's become a thing of prestige.

that's the problem with this younger generation they all want everything handed to them.

like I said before it seems desperate.


Agreed. I dont own any rares either yet i understand the meaning behind them. Nothing ever should be given for free w/o working for it.
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Jokku23 said:
RS3 could learn a lot from Old School. Old School is more popular than RS3.


The same could be said about 07.

Sadly though as its a different game it has its own path for updates.

Also btw, i wouldnt say having more acc means its more popular, as it does still have somewhat of a bot problem.
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Lee M said:
your supporters list is (for the most part) just a bunch of titles that are in-game that you've ripped from the rs wiki, lmao.


Speaking of which, i never supported this so im asking nicely to please remove my name.

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Id only agree if they made them mems only;)


If this is what you took as a support, it was clearly sarcasm.
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Blackwing said:
Tbf, what's supposed to indicate sarcasm there? Without the winkie face, it'd be impossible to tell whether it's sarcasm or not, and even with it, you know, I've seen you use winkie face lots of times before where you haven't been sarcastic.

If you don't want to risk mistaken for being serious, just use the "/s"


Yet if you look at most of my other posts its clear i dont support this.

Plus my first ever post was this:

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No support.


So please tell me how he couldve mistaken it?
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Dottie said:
I never supported this so please remove my name. I am against it completely in case you didn't read everything that was posted by me and understand it, but I clearly DO NOT support.


Yep it seems like multiple time hes misinterpreted ppl for their non-supports:/

W/e though.
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Genuisdragon said:
JOKKU23 take me off the supporter list I AM NOT A SUPPORTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I gave it some thought and came to the conclusion that it should NOT happen. So take ME OFF THE LIST!!!!!


Rip at this rate he wont have any:P

OT: Turksta said:
Anyone who had a heart would understand that rereleasing partyhats will cause the items' value to crash and make the efforts and hardwork of partyhat owners go to waste.
Honestly theoretically speaking most of your supports are probably players who don't even play the game much. If they did then they'd understand and respect the status of partyhats and leave it as it is.

Which reminds me once again, how long till this thread gets locked?


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Tymerc said:
They should return. I do not see what obligates Jagex to keeping them exclusive for such people that continue to plague the game's economy.


Considering they are still here, plz tell me when they even left?
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H1N said:
Sorry I don't support this, Party hat are pricey because it's a rare item that you had to obtain, we don't want it like on osrs, were it's only worth like 50k


This^.

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Party hats are pointless like all the other rares.


Doesnt mean they need to be rereleased.
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Jokku23 said:
More importantly, Tafy is missing the point why I'd like partyhats to be accessible to everyone. Not because they are used for investments and status symbols, but because they were supposed to be fun holiday items for everyone to enjoy.



So is the santa and chicken suits among others, yet those arent getting rerelease thus neither should phats.
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Jokku23 said:
Games are supposed to be fun, not "work". Before you say "working/grinding is fun", I already have a solution for that.


Sadly "fun" is subjective.

So while you may considering begging and pleading for things "fun", i think working hard for your rewards is even more "fun".
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Jokku23 said:
I'm glad to see the amount of faith you have on this thread! Only the very best suggestions reach 2000 posts. There's a long way to go, but maybe with all your support it will be possible! Cheers!


Please once again take my name off list.

I dislike how you think i said 'support' but i have never said it once.

We have been through this before so please stop adding me to support list.

If you dont comply, i can get some fmods involved.

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No its just seems like you have a hard time learning sarcasm.

So until i full say "i support op" or w/e, please dont take it as a support.
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Jokku23 said:
You said you'd agree on certain conditions, so I put you as conditional supporter. I removed your name immediately when you asked. If you don't support, please stop baiting then.


I agreed to what ppl suggested, as you could tell if you actually read the comments, not this thread.

So im not "baiting" as i never said i agreed to your idea.
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Bartak said:
i support this but it would have to be a one time occasion for a week and it would have to be very very rare, and then completly discontinued


If it was rarer than the 200m prize, id might think about support this.

@Op, I still dont support your idea at all just what this person is saying.
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Starlight 2 said:
Wait what? I never said I supported this idea. Also please when you quote what I said, quote the entire sentence. I said OP is super NAIVE


Wouldnt be the first time op choose not to listen to what ppl really said and twisted it into something different.
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Starlight 2 said:
@Jokku23 Reason:

Whether it was on intention or not, party hats are a big sign of wealth and prestige for over 10 years. Everyone who wants 1 grinds for months to get it and show it off.

You can't simply go to the forums and ask jagex to simply hand them to everyone.


100% agree.
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Jokku23 said:
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Request Thread closure.

Jmods have recently confirmed partyhats will never be released via TH

(Source [RS] The Month Ahead - March video on twitch) Time of statement on stream : (38:25)

38:25 says nothing about Treasure Hunter. He says "We're never adding partyhats", which is obviously a joke as they are all laughing. So don't worry! Your "confirmation" was just a joke!

Also, let's see... wildy, free trade, old school... Jagex confirmed that these would never come back. But, they did. Things can change. Especially if a lot of people support! Cheers!


Such is the answer of a person in denial.
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Kalea Sprite said:
So, supporting Partyhats on Treasure Hunter would actually help Jagex increase two revenue streams, their sales of Bonds as well as their sales of Keys.

Thus, supporting Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is a guaranteed method to help more people enjoy the partyhats, as well as help Jagex increase sales which means they will be able to fund the development of awesome new updates for everyone to enjoy!


Yet still shouldnt happen.
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Zooerastia said:
Was looking for the lending thread for party hats when i stumbled across this.....

I've played Runescape for 13 years and only this year been able to afford a party hat after choosing to buy a AGS instead of a purple party hat when they were the same price.

It's a ridiculous concept to re release partyhats; it's something I've wanted for probably the last 10 years and finally got lucky and managed to get one. Think how unfair it would be on those who have spent years making GP to buy one for it to Drop instantly.


Completely don't support.


Exactly.

Want easy to get phats, give 07 a visit.
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Sintacks said:
How this thread lasted 88 pages without being locked as a spam thread is beyond me.


Ikr.

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Sintacks said:
How this thread lasted 88 pages without being locked as a spam thread is beyond me.
It's a legitimate thread, that's why.


Do you honestly think Jagex would ever implement this in RS3? I don't, tbh. That's why there's OSRS if people want cheap phats.



Again, agreed.
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Micrometre said:
This has to be one of the most selective and patronising threads I've ever come across. The creator of the thread disregards all other points people have made and selects only the points they can argue whilst being patronising with the points they cannot argue.

No point trying to have a discussion with children people! Plus that Kalea girl who seems to reply a lot is so patronising with her responses I can't help but cringe.

Good luck with your goal.


Exactly.
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Pkng said:
No Phat holder has earned one with hard work, Please. You either picked one up in 2003 or actually merched your way ( I think its RWTD instead) So you can drop that. PHAT prices are all manipped at the moment and hope Jagex does something to control it.


Nah they're fine as is atm IMO.
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Kalea Sprite said:
A great solution to this problem is presented by the OP: Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!!


Or we can do as jagex have said and leave them discontinued.

So as soon as jagex says its ok for me to get the christmas wand and everything else id like to get, i might think about agreeing.
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Military God said:
I like this idea just as much but i couldnt agree more with Draco Burns. Why should a new player get the same benefit as a player from 15+ years ago it would be drastically unfair. And like he said not everyone was given a party hat, some ppl worked really hard for one. I think the rareness adds to the game giving ppl an amazing goal in trying to get one that only few succeed. The only thing i feel is they shouldve never exceeded 10b it is a bit much but so be it.


Exactly.
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Kalea Sprite said:
It helps correct the markets, more people will be able to party with the Partyhats and, it helps Jagex raise funds to hire more people to continue developing the game and release awesome updates for everyone to enjoy!


Yet th as it is, w/o phats, seems to be doing this just fine.
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Dong U Dead said:
If you did something like this it would need to be voted on; the only problem there are people with multitude of accounts and how fair would the vote be??

And yes I would like a vote to be put through to the players and take it from there...


Ok id agree to a vote only due to the fact that there more lvl headed ppl ingame than here on the forums.

So once it fails the poll we can be done with this nonsense.
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Turksta said:
Uhmm, we both know that if it were to officially get polled over 50% if not over 80% of the votes will be on rereleasing partyhats.


You do know this isnt 07 right where this did happen?

Also, like how you can make up false numbers when you know it'll fail.

Noice failed scare tactic.
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D E L A Y said:
I actually think if it was to be polled, a majority of people would vote for them to be released simply because a majority of the population probably doesn't own a party hat. Without trying to sound rude all I have to say in regards to that is too bad.


Exactly.

I mean look at the 07 splashing poll. Theres a reason it didnt pass you know:@

Why would anyone in the greedy mindset say no tp phr33 st00f.
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Kalea Sprite said:
Putting Partyhats on Treasure Hunter and/or releasing them again at infinite amounts over the holidays for everyone to share and enjoy will not harm your gameplay either.


Yet this is already being done on 07.

So i dont see a need for it to happen on rs3.
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a dog said:
I noticed that whenever they support different colored party hats being added it's considered "partial support" and they are added to the "support" list. Very misleading.


Thats what you get in a spam thread.

I mean its already breaking so many rules its not funny.

So whats 1 more.
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a dog said:
Why haven't you repeated your fantastic arguments in 20+ pages? Since 20+ pages, all I have heard are pointless and trivial arguments. If you expect people to come to your side, you have to start posting these compelling arguments.

The merchant aspect had been debunked by myself many times over that partyhats are not as OP as you think they are.

Also, RWT will happen with or without partyhats, look at OSRS. It is a rule in RuneScape not to RWT, and people already get banned for doing so.


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Exit Wound said:
i agree with you juan but theres no point commenting on this thread, those who want phats released will argue against everything you said and think you're wrong no matter what you tell them. theyll complain about how badly everyone wants them, rwt, and price manipulation. save your energy and ignore this thread lol


Exactly.

Ty for this :)
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Whatusaytome said:
If manipulation didn't make the prices rise so high, they wouldn't be viewed as anything special.


Going by this logic, if it wasnt for them you ppl wouldnt be asking for this.

So maybe that does prove that they should be left as is.
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Exit Wound said:
i hate to break it to you but partyhats arent the only item in game being manipulated with the price, that doesnt justify releasing them on treasure hunter lol


Exactly.

Im pretty sure all of the 3a items as well as rsh and most of the other discontinued rares are also being maniped.

Yet you ppl say absolutely nothing about those...

Go figure.
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Whatusaytome said:
.


Yet again you seem to say that phats are the only items being maniped, yet you're 100% false.

Like said:

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Im pretty sure all of the 3a items as well as rsh and most of the other discontinued rares are also being maniped.


So stop trying to say that these are the only items being maniped:@
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Whatusaytome said:
As a chromatic owner, I call it unfair that any other partyhats raise their values with no crash risk, for more profit than most legitimate hard workers in game make in months of work.

Blue has raised 8b since April, which is 5 months ago. That is not earned or fair and is extremely overpowered.


Lyfes unfair.

I find it unfair i cant win any other golden warpriest or barrows armors... /s
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Ahura said:
This thread is not so much about manipulation, rather this thread is a complaint on phats being so highly priced. Even if you stop the manipulation then all phats would likely still be 5b+ and not get the prices they were few years ago because of high demand. This would not satisfy those who think they're too expensive and 'manipulation' is used to justify making them available on TH and cause the price to crash. That's basically the goal of this thread, a big price crash to make them more affordable.


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Ahura said:
I can also turn it the other way around. You ignore the smaller group and only focus on your view and the group who supports your view, that's also selfish.

Bring up one suggestion from this thread that actually does something to stop manipulation but doesn't hurt the smaller group who already has phats and we'll discus that. But rereleasing phats...I will never support that. The end doesn't justify the means.

And yes, this thread is for a big part on complaining about phat prices, more about them being expensive rather than the manipulation, read the OP's post.


Agreed.

Like how he saying this isnt about prices, yet all he talks about is "manip being unfair"...
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Whatusaytome said:
I don't care if you don't plan on selling, the possibility remains and you can change your mind and cash in whenever.


Like how this is all based on assumption ;)

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Panic sales are common.


TFW not everyone partakes in them.
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Blu D Boy said:
Hello all. Someone has posted on the reddit to add partyhats to treasure hunter^_^. It's also receiving upvotes, but be warned that place can become a shadow realm in hours. lol


Yet reddit is the home of memes and shtposts...

So ofc someone would post this there and it would get liked.
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Yeah. How about, like, leaving the people with the silly paper hats that don't look particularly good and offer less of a defensive bonus than a bronze helm to their own devices? You'll be all the happier for it.

And if you really must get your hands on one of those silly hats, OS has a huge supply. Go crazy.


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Putting Phats on TH will *only* affect the prices of Phats. A Noxious Scythe will not go down in price because Phats are suddenly on TH.

This entire thread is consistently attempting to sell itself as some new revolutionary fix to the RS economy which is a blatant untruth and a tad bit sad as it comes off as desperate to sell your cause.

A Phats value isn't due to the inflation of the RS economy. It's because that's what people are willing to pay for it.


M8, they can and will only see and understand one side of the coin.

No use trying to explain it to them, you only end up hurting yourself:@
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Whatusaytome said:
Most here, including Blackwing and Draco, have agreed to new colors that are entirely cosmetic,


No i have not.

I dont support any release of this:@

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Here is the general idea for cosmetics though, in case you missed it.


Yep never going to happen as sof is gone ;)
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Whatusaytome said:
And I do not support Alt's abusing the forums, look how that's turning out.


And i dont support certain ppl derailing threads for the giggles.

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Cosmetic New Color Partyhats do not devalue Originals,


Just because they dont, doesnt mean they should rerelease the originals.
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Whatusaytome said:
Idk why I'm explaining to you though, you won't even provide a real reason why they shouldn't be fixed


Just like how a certain someone wont accept any other reason but his own.

I mean plenty of ppl have tried to tell you that this wont ever happen yet here you are.
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Onv said:
Onv here,

This thread has turned into a troll thread basically. You can hope and wish for Phats to be re-released but that will never happen seeing it would crash the market INFLATING Any other item to an outrageous price leaving the cost of playing not even worth trying. Jagex knows better than to do this because it will cost them more money and players in the long run and eventually terminate the very existence of Runescape, and we know that they can't afford to lose anymore players than they already have so I have to agree with Key Player on this one.

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Kiljutonkka said:
This game is noob friendly enough.. you are not supposed to get everything you desire served on a silver plate. This is super stupid idea. Definetly not support. I dont have hats when I say this. I really would like to have one but can not afford. This is not the way I would like to get one.


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Miu said:
It's called inflation.


Still doesnt explain how that bad.

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Fine, it impacts everyone that's not an ironman, or a hardcore ironman, since inflation doesn't impact them.


Dont see how thats even close to being a reason:@

I mean exactly how does it impact them?
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More supply lowers the price. When there's an excess of gold, the value of gold drops. By offering 200m cash, the value of gold across the entire game diminishes and loses purchasing power.


Yet you completely ignore the fact it takes so many keys to usually even come close to winning it.

So i dont see how this can even effect the game at all?:@

Alas, this thread isnt about the 200m prize but adding phats to th, thus im done responding about it further.
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Miu said:
If it takes many keys to come close to winning it, then adding partyhats to that slot isn't a big issue then, is it


Dont see how that even relates:@

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The issue isn't one person getting 200m, it's the 200m gold being instantly injected into the economy from across the entire playerbase


Which very rarely happens thus isnt hardly an issue.
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Kalea Sprite said:
Oh yes, you may breath a sigh of relief!

Don't worry my friend, sooner or later they will release the Partyhats again!

Perhaps they'll release them again with some of the awesome ideas that have been presented around the forums. Clearly, one of the best ways to release the Partyhats again is with Treasure Hunter, it's a triple win!!!

Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!!


Like how you say this knowing the fact they wont.

How many times do you have to be told to understand?:@
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Spider Web said:
"1. its funny how i can voice my opinion on anyone elses thread n i will not get the same type of anger or hatred out of anyone else except for YOU . YOU classify all rare owners into one category then defend it by saying most of them are all the same with the minor exception of a few"

Have to agree here. Every rare thread if someone doesn't support it, they're called elitists.


Agreed:@

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Wow. I don't think you could get any more pretentious if you tried.

I would most certainly acknowledge problems with Party Hats if there were any, and if you told me. I haven't spent a lot of time getting worked up over it, and just the idea of giving away some of the most ridiculously, unfairly expensive items in Runescape to only a few incredibly lucky people is ludicrous to me, especially if you can pay real world money to get more chances at getting one.

Off the top of my head, I can think of a few of these alleged 'problems' that you might be referring to.

1. Elitism. It's a status symbol. Have one, and it means you've been around since the beginning, or that you're rich as hell. It's a have and have not situation, and a lot of people either flaunt this status around or get angry at people flaunting their status around.

2. Arbitrary time exclusion. I'm sorry, I didn't even know Runescape existed in 2001, but that's okay. I don't mind missing out on time-locked content that the devs don't feel like putting back into the game. (I do, actually. I mind it a lot.)

3. Unsustainable pricing. As mentioned, these things are worth a lot, and the fact that their prices continuously increase, for whatever reason, makes it a race to get enough money to buy one. If you don't make enough gold to keep pace, then you're screwed.

4. The playerbase. Not its attitude, mind you, but its size. The last time we saw a new Christmas Cracker dropped into the game was, apparently, way back in December of 2001. The playerbase, meanwhile, has continued to increase.

This is just speculation, on my part. But I do realize that there are issues with Party Hats, and I'm sure you have a few other issues filed away to bring up. But, personally, I think that they're otherwise fine as they are.


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Yes, my signature is 'get lucky or grind trying'. That's because if you want to get rich, you need to get lucky or grind until you essentially make your own luck.

I don't see how Treasure Hunter works its way into that. It's a system where the game just instantly gives you usually worthless crap, and occasionally good crap, but it's still crap. There's luck, but there's no grinding - or, there is, but it's only on your bank account.

If they want to manipulate the economy, then fine. If Jagex isn't coming down on them, then they're free to do it. I don't have to like it, but that's just their deal at this point.

And I'll let you in on a secret: just because something you have is 'worth' 24 billion doesn't mean you instantly earned 24 billion. Someone has to buy the fucking thing first. The money doesn't just appear out of thin air.

If someone is out there, willing to pay 24 billion for a Party Hat, then props to them. I probably wouldn't, but who knows? I don't have 24 billion to spend.


Agreed.

Well put my friend.
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No, we worked very hard to afford this and it would extremely affect the prices we paid/money we earned. If you just spend the time grinding by PVM or a Money Making skill, you can afford one too. I assure you!

Feel free and I can give you skill-related money making tips.


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Konota said:
^" You can buy xp with th so why not a phat? "

Because little to nobody likes Treasure Hunter.
Because it enormously devalues max cape / 120's and 200m goals with XP, doesn't mean every other goal in Runescape should suffer too. What's next, CW tickets, T92 weapons, ...?


Plz dont give them ideas:@
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Sintacks said:
I'm surprised this thread is still alive considering how ludicrous and absurd this suggestion is. OP and his supporters might say it'll be more fun for everyone to re-release phats on TH, but in reality, that is the most selfish thing one could ask for in this game. People have worked their asses off to obtain one, whether in the past when they were 300m or at their current price. Locking phats behind TH is downright despicable and greedy. It will essentially kill any remaining integrity Jagex has as a game developer and a company, and for what reason? Just so some beggars with irl money can open a bunch of chests for a chance at a virtual paper hat?

In conclusion, no support, nor will I ever support such an idea. If they ever consider this, it will surely be the final nail in the coffin for many players. If you really want a phat, consider begging at the GE in W2. You'll have a better chance of getting one through that than Jagex re-releasing them through TH.


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Whatusaytome said:
Regardless if done by TH, or by my signature suggestion, they become better for the game, and better for more people. Even if the originals are brought back.


Fail to see how this would be for the "betterment of the game"?

Why should jagex give you something just because you cbb to get it through normal means?

I mean you dont see them putting the santa suit or other holiday items on th so why should this one be any different?
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Turksta said:
I think it's been confirmed by op a million times that it isn't a troll thread. Props to him for standing up against all the negative backlash and keeping the thread alive.


Yet just because someone says it isnt, doesnt automatically make it true, just saying.
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Yet just because someone suggests an idea that might be controversial to you, doesn't automatically make it a troll thread, just saying.


Last i checked it isnt only controversial to me, reread the thread if you dont believe me.

Or better yet, read the first post at the top of this page, the one you quoted.
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Baze said:
As an owner of many partyhats, the addiction to accumulate more and more wealth has consumed my life. I wish nothing more than to be free from the vicious hold these hats have over me, and therefore I support this proposition!!!!!


How would this "free" you from the "hold" they have on you?
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Voro said:
Support!!! I think party hats are way too expensive, it is impossible to accumulate the wealth to get one without cheating the system, manipulating prices etc. IMO everyone who has a partyhat manipulated prices or scammed the system and some point, so I really couldn't care less about their tears. They had it coming..
And to everyone saying they got it from PvM, well I don't believe you I do twin furies for 10 hours everyday and I get good killtimes (before anyone calls me out, about 1:30, scythe t90 prayer, augmented tetsu) and I am not even close to a partyhat. So stop lying.

Thanks for doing gods work OP!


Lots of things are "expensive" yet why should that mean ppl should get them practically for "free"?:@

Also i like how you claim everyone w/ a phat is a scammer and whtnot so why would you want to represent yourself with said group?
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Shooter Mann said:
support.

treasure hunter might as well be useful for something since you cant get anything good out of it currently anyway. no ones ever won 200m from that and remember how disastrous the parcel event was? not a single person got 500m or a huge parcel out of hundreds of thousands of stamps.


I fail to see how even this would be "useful"?
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Jokku23 said:

Although I personally have not complained about TH promos, a lot of people complain about them because they would like to see more cosmetic promos instead of continuous xp selling. That's why they support this thread.


IMO, this would do more harm than any of the cosmetic promos have done.
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Blackwing said:
Cosmetic promos on Solomon's store, though. Whether you gamble for exp, gp or cosmetics, gambling is still gambling, which is not appropriate as a form of MTX. > )


TFW its been stated time and time again th isnt gambling.

Plz look up the definition of the word "gambling".

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Th doesnt fit into either definition.
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Blackwing said:
It does, actually; buying keys is a risky action, because you aren't guaranteed to get what you want (and what you want is the desired result), so if you don't get lucky, you'll have basically wasted your money. TH might give a reward of some kind for every key, but it's there for legal purposes only, and doesn't change the practice, which is risking your money for potentially no return of your desire. > )


Just because you dont get what you want, doesnt mean you dont get anything.

With th theres always a result thus it isnt gambling.

I mean the same could be said about anything in this game.

Take bosses for example, most ppl either want pet or a certain drop, so if they go 1k+ kills dry does that mean they "gambled" their time?

Nope, that just means rng wasnt on your side.
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Whatusaytome said:
except it is never a gamble because no matter what you win, you always win something. You may be spending to buy an outfit, and I have no problem with outfits moving to Solomons to be fully avail for purchase so nobody overspends for something others get cheaper. But TH is fully functional and should be kept because it actually makes the game better for more people than you think.


M8 just saying, but th isnt ever going anywhere.

Id say sgs has better odds at leaving before th does.
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Blackwing said:
Well it kinda is a gamble as well, since you risk spending your time for no gain of your desired drop. Thing is though, unlike bossing, TH takes no skill, is not balanced, and exploits you for your money. One could even say that there's not just one type of gambling, and that the one TH is based around is predatory, for the reasons already explained before. > )


Yet the fact of the matter is that in gambling, there has to be a result that earns you nothing.

Yet from what i can see with th, thats impossible.
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UrekMazino said:
Its related to gamling yes, but the topic at hand is adding phats to TH, which isn't related to gambling or whatever you guys were talking about...

I was not debating with you whether TH should be gambling or not... You ought to read properly before responding.


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Blackwing said:
cont.

Like said before, it only "works" in OSRS, because it was made very clear from the beginning that partyhats would always get rereleased. (And I said "works" in quotation marks, because even though they're technically fine as they are because it was made clear from the beginning how they'd work, ironically they're more appreciated in RS3 than OSRS, because inevitably they lack value/don't matter in OSRS as a result.)

While it would be nice to be able to give everyone what they want and have it not hurt anything, some things are simply meant to be and best to be left as they are, in order to have a meaningful game experience with integrity. In those cases, it's best to look for other things, something entirely new or similar, yet with a distinct difference. > )


Agreed.
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Eden Syvian said:
But wait there’s more.

Micro transactions will be illegal soon, so you read it hear first folks. The end of Runescape was set in motion via the squeal of fortune in 2012 and the end game of this apocalypse will be the release of party hats on treasure hunter the week before MTX become illegal.


TFW ppl have said this time and time again and yet TH is still here.
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