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Starlight 2 said:
I read the entire thread. I conclude that:

OP is super naďve.
Nice
Awesome
ďntelligent
Very
Excellent

So its true, the OP is super Nice Awesome ďntelligent Very Excellent!

One might only conclude that the OP is very clever and perceptive because Jokku23 has cheerfully entertained us with insightful threads such as: Guide: How to Hack People! QFC: 98-99-241-65813851

The OP is certainly not gullible, in fact, Jokku23 wields a quick wit like a whip as is illustrated in threads such as: Varrock, Varpaper, Varscissors QFC:14-15-238-65802575

The OP might only be considered as very generous and, in fact, most magnanimous because Jokku23 shares cheerfulness with everyone. It is observed here in this thread, the wish to share the wealth of fun that is symbolized by the partyhats. So, clearly the thread is about sharing the fun with everyone!

In conclusion, Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is a super Nice Awesome ďntelligent Very Excellent idea and everyone should support it because it's the fun thing to do!

tldr: I support!
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30-Jan-2017 01:00:43

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Icy Crossbow said:
Partyhats are part of the foundation of the rs economy.


That does not appear to be true, partyhats are a cosmetic item, they are neither a resource nor combat item. Years ago anyone could pick up the cracker and pull it with a friend and have some fun celebrating the holidays. So what used to be a fun holiday thing morphed into merely a wealth token hoarded and squabbled over by flippers and merchers.

When they made mint cakes less rare, the economy chugged on.

Heck, even when whips and godswords crashed, the economy chugged on and those where combat items.

So if there is a foundation of the economy then it would be practical things like resources and stuff that is useful for training skills or combat. Thus, the things that really drive the economy are things like spirit shards, incandescent energy, headless arrow, coal, feather, etc.

So, you can relax, putting partyhats or crackers on the Treasure Hunter (or even celebrating the holidays and releasing them again just like they first were released) would actually improve the economy because it would dislodge the wealth hoarded by flippers and merchers. As the wealth circulates the economy will grow like a healthy farm freshly pruned and watered.
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10-Feb-2017 17:57:54

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Silly Bob said:
I think most of us who own tradeable rares will go to osrs if you do this. make an alternate version of the party hat that is untradeable and do it and its cool but I do not want money I spend to be at risk and I don't think anyone else does either.


Party hat is a stock please stop.


OSRS is a fine game, so if you prefer it, enjoy!

I would support all versions of partyhats and crackers to be released again, from the original styles to any other kind because it would be super awesome and fun to have them all released again (either on Treasure Hunter as is the topic here, or even additionally both as a holiday event as they were originally so that everyone can experience again the fun as it was back in the day!)

But you know, risk is part of the game. When you do combat stuff, you risk dying. When you do fishing you risk not catching a fish. When you do anything in a game, there is a risk of not winning or perhaps losing out on something even though there is a chance of success. I think that's part of what make games fun because is there is risk involved. So, don't worry, risk is just part of the game :D

[As for your last point, it really seems to be off-topic, but to be honest, he never did release his tax files so, seriously, it's very likely that most of that money belongs to the taxpayers and, he should return that money back to the taxpayers.]

Bump in support of Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!!
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27-Feb-2017 02:05:57

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Turksta said:
^Still no support due to the little sympathy op and the supporters have towards current partyhat owners as well as a lack of a compensation/solution for everyone. All supporters in this thread (just like op) dreams to be able to afford a partyhat so obv they will support this devastating idea. The history and price of partyhats are simply way out of reach to be messed with.

The crocodile tears of multi-billionaires is very comical, no offence, but I've seen them at the G.E. bragging about how easy it is to flip or merch, or whatever, as they hoard dozens or hundreds of sets of partyhat stacks etc etc.

So, let's share the fun! Runescape will be great again when these fun partyhats are released again for everyone to enjoy because literally everyone will have a great chance to share the history, relive the good times, and enjoy the fun! Fun for everyone, including those who already got them because they can top up their already overflowing collections!

Realistically though, and historically, the crackers and partyhats were given out for free over the holidays, as it should be again, or as is the topic here, Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!!
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27-Feb-2017 19:12:06

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Silly Bob said:
Who doesnt unddrstand economics.
First of all, it's just a game and we are all here to have fun. In economics, competition is a good thing and in games competition is also considered fun! Partyhats represent parties and parties are also fun!

So by increasing the supply of partyhats, in economic terms, the supply/demand curves will approach market equilibrium which means more people may party in the market of partyhats and that means much more fun for everyone :D
Jokku23 said:
Partyhats would become less expensive so more people would enjoy them!
The market form in this game might be described in economics as an "oligopoly," that is a market of a few sellers which may have resulted from "various forms of collusion which reduce competition and lead to higher prices for consumers."

So by increasing the supply of partyhats, collusion might be averted because there will be more sellers to compete in the partyhat market. Thus, a more robust and healthy economy will result as competition increases. Since, games are all about having fun, and part of the fun involves competition, by increasing market competition the fun will also increase.

Additionally, the OP explains further benefit:
Jokku23 said:
Jagex would get more money from spins!
Indeed, OSRS has the partyhats and it is alot of fun, but by releasing partyhats on Treasure Hunter there is an additional benefit, and it is a very clever idea because it means that they will be able to fund the development of many more adventures, skills, updates, quests, etc etc :D

So, the OP has, in fact, presented a solid economic strategy which revitalizes and refreshes market competition and also suppplies the developers with funding to keep on creating more fun and games for everyone :D

Hence, it is a win for the economy, it is a win for the players, and it is a win for Jagex.!!

It's a win + win + win!
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01-Mar-2017 18:48:21

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Shunyung said:
I believe there are many factors that are contributing to the rise of these items. Just to name a couple: Inflation and most importantly, increasing demand.
It is unlikely that it is due to inflation. As shown in the graphs below, over the last several years the Common Trade Index has exhibited some mild turbulence, even though the graph depicts numerous peaks and valleys, there does not appear to be a significant inflation rate overall.


In contrast, the partyhat graph appears to be an anomaly because the data depicts a rather steep incline in price. It is an incline that does not appear to be proportionate to the population of players which has remained fairly constant over the past several years.

So, it is not an increase in demand, but rather, there is a decrease in supply.

The supply of partyhats is decreasing. Perhaps removed from the game via banned accounts and whatnot. The supply also decreases when they begin to gather dust in a hoarders stacks. As the supply decreases the problem is that the fun also decreases.

To increase the fun, simply increase the supply, as the OP describes! :D

As the supply increases, market competition also increases because more sellers will emerge and market competition is healthy for a game, and it's fun too because more people can party in the partyhat market!

MightyMior said:
Sad to say but i would give him my bank i have today to get him back in my Life thats how much he was worth to me..
Increasing the supply will also help bring back lost friends because as the supply increases everyone will be able to share the fun of the partyhats and party like it's 2001 again!

So, this thread is worth supporting because market competition is fun and, it will help bring back lost friends and, Jagex will get more funding to make more updates for everyone to enjoy!!! :D
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22-Mar-2017 12:33:45

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Hasitor said:
By 3b+ the most players can make a month is roughly 1b by merchanting unless you are on all the time.
According to that most players of 3+wealth might only hope to realize 233,333,333 per week
(1,000,000,000 / 30 days) x 7 days = 233,333,333 per week

However, it is not enough to catch up to the compounded escalation of prices. Consider the blue party hat for example, here is the data from ~Discontinued Item Status V41~ Quick find code: 17-18-909-65888400 Original message details are unavailable.
[item status: blue partyhat] ... 11000-11700 million
[06-Mar-2017 19:58:23 by Popfrog9]
Original message details are unavailable.
[item status: blue partyhat] ... 12300-13000 million
[26-Mar-2017 21:15:18 by Popfrog9]
The approximate price increase is about 11.818%
((12300-11000)/11000) x 100% = 11.818 %

If all things remain the same, the next 20 days will see an increase of 1,376,797,000
((11000+12300)/2) previous low end mid price x (12300-11000)/11000) rate of increase
= 1376 million or 1,376,797,000

Which means that one would have to earn over (1,376,797,000 / 20 days) x 7 days = 481,878,950 per week just to keep up with the increases.

These calculations show that the price increases already surpass what most players of might only hope to realize, which is approximately 233,333,333 per week.

Combined with decreasing supply of such items lost to banned accounts, hoarders etc., there already does not appear to be enough supply for all to have fun and enjoy.

So the supply should be increased = fun !

Therefore, this thread is worth supporting because of the triple win as mentioned by the OP and also because games and economics both thrive on robust market competition. :D
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27-Mar-2017 20:14:01 - Last edited on 27-Mar-2017 22:14:00 by Kalea Sprite

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Hasitor said:
Basically a large merchanting clan is pumping up the prices so expect a big dump in prices soon.
So, you're confirming that a select group of people are manipulating the market?

If so, then this is further reason to support the OP because it is a type of collusion that would be averted by increasing the supply of partyhats.

Additionally, flipping and merching is very risky, there are no guarantees of consistent large profits, it might be estimated for every successful billion coin flip there are thousands of billion coin bankruptcies. Obviously, large risks could amount to large gains but also large losses. In the end, one might be lucky if they simply broke even.

Your speculation that people wouldn't wear them any more if supply increased does not appear to be valid because in OSRS thousands of people follow the JMods around when they spawn the partyhats.

That the partyhats are cosmetic items is further reason to support the OP because Treasure Hunter appears to be marketed as offering non-invasive products. In contrast to the "Lucky Saradomin Godsword," partyhats have no practical combat use and thus, categorically offer no in-game combat benefits. So, the partyhat cosmetic item should be vended upon the Treasure Hunter because they are a cosmetic item.
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28-Mar-2017 18:29:23

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Hasitor said:
Of course there is manipulation, runescape has a free economy and just like a real economy
Much of your comments are contradictory. If the "free economy" is being manipulated then it is no longer free. The manipulation of the market means that it is enslaved to certain persons.

The GE has a mechanism which is intended to prevent market manipulation. There are buy limits on items, only a certain number of items might be purchased within about fours hours. It might not be the greatest mechanism but it is there nonetheless.

In the real world: "...Market manipulation is a deliberate attempt to interfere with the free and fair operation of the market and create artificial, false or misleading appearances with respect to the price of, or market for, a security, commodity or currency. Market manipulation is prohibited in most countries, in particular, it is prohibited in the United States under Section 9(a)(2) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934..."

So, your confirmation that the partyhat market is being manipulated provides concrete reasons to increase the supply of partyhats as this will help avert such kinds of manipulations.

Therefore, everyone should support the OP because it is a way to avert market manipulation.
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30-Mar-2017 05:27:41

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Hasitor said:
As for merching being risky,
Look, it's not like anyone can stop you from taking risks, the point is that it is risky. In other words, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

Hasitor said:
Anyway you guys are missing the point on these items being prestiged for their price and rarity which is why you want them and is very ironic. Wonder why you aren't pushing for santas or masks
Ironically, it seems to be you that is missing the point that the partyhat is a fun cosmetic item, it is not a prestige or status ego stroker item.Jokku23 said:
MrNick said:
Might aswell smack santa hats, wheen masks, pumpkins etc. on there aswell while you're at it.

Sure! Cheers for your support! Cheers!
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30-Mar-2017 05:45:54

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Micaiah said:
Good news everyone! Tommorow they will release partyhats on treasure hunter! We did it ladies and gentlemen!!!! Cheers!!!!!!




Even though I support this thread, this amazing announcement sounds suspiciously like an April Fool's day joke :P

However, there is a hint that they might release partyhats again, check it out on twitch!

Twitch Runescape [RS] The Month Ahead - March

38:37 Mod Ryan says, "...that's the worst thing to use as an example..."

38:40 Mod Shauny says, "...that should literally be on our censor list ... we should never ever mention it ever..."

38:46 Mod Osbourne agrees that it shouldn't be mentioned. This appears to be a hint for speculation that there is a possibility that partyhats will be released again in some manner other than the event box reward crates.

So, they might be just joking around but it's really anyone's guess as to what will happen :P

Having said that much, there are very solid reasons to support the increasing the supply of partyhats as discussed earlier, so I am still optimistic that they will release the partyhats again, until that time I will continue to support this thread because it's awesome! :D
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31-Mar-2017 03:43:39

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Micaiah said:
lazy
Whoa, hey there lol, relax bro, the lazy gaming style is actually the most legitimate of styles!

That is, "lazy" is usually known as " AFK "

One would not be hard pressed to find people enjoying the afk style as they leisurely adventure about the glorious world of Gielinor. The AFK Style, unlike Gangnam Style, but similar in other respects, is an abbreviation for "Away From Keyboard ... This, as well as other abbreviations were developed to speed up communication using 300 baud modems in the early to late 80's. ... "

In the contemporary context of this game, afk culture sometimes conveys a dreamlike trance as a metaphor for the otherworldliness of having escaped from reality and then consequently having escaped reality into the game there is another dimensional escape from that realm of existence which sometimes conjures images of lovely cups of tea or, oddly, sometimes images of porcelain thrones, however, not to be confused with the "Game of Thrones," which nevertheless the afk culture may or may not connect as yet another metaphor for other modes of stimuli simultaneously experienced, which is also sometimes referred to as multitasking.

Seriously bro, the most "work" anyone ever had to do to first obtain the partyhats was simply snap the cracker with a friend. If anyone is working any harder than that, then they just might be working too hard :P

Not that there's anything wrong with that but, sooner or later, one way or another, there appear to be several hints that the partyhats will be released again, which will increase the partyhat supply and, that would increase competition in the partyhat market and, thus nullify clan collusion and help avert or prevent other forms of market manipulation.

Micaiah said:
...the spirit of fun and cheers that I hear so famously...
OMG! this thread is famous!!
OMG! OMG! Must get autographs!!!! ^_^
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02-Apr-2017 07:11:05

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Micaiah said:
Kalea Sprite said:
the most "work" anyone ever had to do to first obtain the partyhats was simply snap the cracker with a friend. If anyone is working any harder than that, then they just might be working too hard

Not that there's anything wrong with that but, sooner or later, one way or another, there appear to be several hints that the partyhats will be released again, which will increase the partyhat supply and, that would increase competition in the partyhat market and, thus nullify clan collusion and help avert or prevent other forms of market manipulation.


Never said laziness or afk was illegtimate, did I? Nice spiel though! Cheers!!!! And if you want an autograph, feel free to go get one! Cheers!!!! ^_^


Never said that you said laziness or afk was illegtimate, did I? :P

Thanks for the nice comment about the spiel though!!! Cheers!!!!
OMG!!! Autographs!!!! WOOOT!
Bump for Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!! ^_^
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02-Apr-2017 08:32:45

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Micaiah said:
Kalea Sprite said:


Never said that you said laziness or afk was illegtimate, did I? :P

Thanks for the nice comment about the spiel though!!! Cheers!!!!
OMG!!! Autographs!!!! WOOOT!
Bump for Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!! ^_^


Then why mention it is legit? :P And you are very welcome! And glad to see you got autographs!!!! Cheers for that and laziness!!!! :)

It's curious that you should ask because this is exactly what is in your post on this page, third from the top check it out:Micaiah said:

April Fool! Cheerssss!!!!
And work hard, save your gp if you really want a partyhat lazy fools.
Perhaps you didn't reveal the spoiler to yourself?

In any event, the reply that followed was in reference to the stuff in your spoiler, as discussed above its not foolish but rather a popular style of the game. So, in that sense it is legitimate and not foolish as some would have you believe.

But in case you didn't catch it the first time (or the second time)

... the most "work" anyone ever had to do to first obtain the partyhats was simply snap the cracker with a friend. If anyone is working any harder than that, then they just might be working too hard :P

Not that there's anything wrong with that but, sooner or later, one way or another, there appear to be several hints that the partyhats will be released again, which will increase the partyhat supply and, that would increase competition in the partyhat market and, thus nullify clan collusion and help avert or prevent other forms of market manipulation.

Thanks for asking!! :D
Bump for Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!! ^_^
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02-Apr-2017 10:08:24

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Micaiah said:
Kalea Sprite said:


Never said that you said laziness or afk was illegtimate, did I? :P

Thanks for the nice comment about the spiel though!!! Cheers!!!!
OMG!!! Autographs!!!! WOOOT!
Bump for Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!! ^_^


Then why mention it is legit? :P And you are very welcome! And glad to see you got autographs!!!! Cheers for that and laziness!!!! :)

It's curious that you should ask because this is exactly what is in your post check it out:Micaiah said:

April Fool! Cheerssss!!!!
And work hard, save your gp if you really want a partyhat lazy fools.
Perhaps you didn't reveal the spoiler to yourself?

In any event, the reply that followed was in reference to the stuff in your spoiler, as discussed above its not foolish but rather a popular style of the game. So, in that sense it is legitimate and not foolish as some would have you believe.

But in case you didn't catch it the first time (or the second time)

... the most "work" anyone ever had to do to first obtain the partyhats was simply snap the cracker with a friend. If anyone is working any harder than that, then they just might be working too hard :P

Not that there's anything wrong with that but, sooner or later, one way or another, there appear to be several hints that the partyhats will be released again, which will increase the partyhat supply and, that would increase competition in the partyhat market and, thus nullify clan collusion and help avert or prevent other forms of market manipulation.

Thanks for asking!! :D
Bump for Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!! ^_^
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02-Apr-2017 10:09:05 - Last edited on 02-Apr-2017 10:10:05 by Kalea Sprite

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Micaiah said:
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In other words, you imagined things like I thought it was illegitimate and I needed your cool story about afkness and laziness and now need to cover your tracks with my spoiler that never had anything to do with afkness or legitmacy of laziness. I'll indulge since it's great to have an imaginative mind! Cheers!!!!!

Well you are free to imagine anything you wish, it's clear however that working any harder than snapping a cracker is probably just way too much work all things considered ^_^

Also, by increasing the supply of partyhats the fun will also increase because everyone will be able to share the fun of the partyhats!!

Cheers!!!! ^_^
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02-Apr-2017 10:38:37

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Turksta said:
I agree and disagree (just like with op) - wearing a paperhat is not really "fun" in my book. It's as much "fun" as wearing a wizards hat..

Certainly "fun" is a subjective thing like playing Soul Wars or Castle Wars some people like both some like neither others one or the other it's all relative to what is "fun." If there was no Castle Wars for example, then the options of "fun" are reduced, similarly the options to engage the fashionscape mode with cosmetic items is reduced when the options are limited.

Thus, by increasing the options, the "fun" also increases across the board for everyone. That is, by increasing the options to "fun" items, even though it is subjective, the "fun" generally speaking increases.

Also, by increasing the supply, market competition increases which is yet another angle on the subjective idea of "fun" and it has the combined effect of also increasing the available options for those who engage the fashionscape mode so to speak.

There are a number of angles on the idea of "fun" that increase as the supply of partyhats increases. So it is worthwhile to support this thread because, as the OP notes, it raises revenue to help Jagex continue updating the game and that's "fun" for everyone!!! :D
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02-Apr-2017 12:10:57

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Micaiah said:
Yes and I got a partyhat and that's irrelevant too! It sure doesn't take a genius to figure out that a partyhat can be done without rwt or buying bonds or doing nothing but play the game in daily life either! Cheers!!!! :)


Yes! And it's a great reason to support this thread because it paves the way for more options to enjoy the game! Supporting Partyhats on Treasure Hunter has the effect of helping to prevent illicit third party activities because as the supply of partyhats increase, illicit markets or market manipulation, collusion, etc., becomes less lucrative.

Thus, by increasing the supply and options to obtain partyhats, as the OP suggests Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, the fun increases because everyone will have a greater variety of ways to party with the partyhats even if they don't play daily everyday, especially for those people who play occasionally and casually! ^_^

So everyone should support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, especially when considering that it also helps Jagex continue to create awesome updates for everyone to enjoy! :D
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04-Apr-2017 17:25:22

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Jerrbear said:
The only people that support this are people that don't have partyhats.
That does not appear to be valid, but even if there is a correlation, then one might speculate that the overwhelming majority would support this type of thing, which means there is potentially very solid support in favour of Partyhats on Treasure Hunter! :D

Jerrbear said:
This would destroy the economy and ruin many peoples profiles. Partyhats are among the rarest items in the game, keep it that way. If Jagex does this then Runescape is ruined for good.
It is unlikely that the economy would be destroyed because, as you mentioned, these items are rare which means that not many people are able to participate in the partyhat market. So, if most people are not in the partyhat market then the economy would not experience any significant negative impact. In fact, the economy would be improved because it would create jobs! :D :D

That is, by increasing the supply of partyhats the economy would be strengthened as it would create opportunities for entrepreneurs to enter the partyhat market, more people would be able to buy and sell partyhats. Thus, by increasing the supply of partyhats, via Treasure Hunter, the in-game economy would strengthen as these entrepreneurial activities increase and provide employment opportunities and new jobs!!! :D :D :D

Additionally, it would also strengthen Jagex because with this revenue source they could hire more people to create more awesome updates for everyone to enjoy!!

So, everyone should support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter since it will strengthen the economy and it will create employment opportunities both in-game and in real life!!! ^_^
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07-Apr-2017 10:53:20

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Cupboard said:
You're incorrect Kalea. You only hear what you want to hear and refuse to listen to reason. Anyone with any sense realizes this and doesn't take you or the OP serious. You have little to no experience in the economy if you think putting partyhats on treasure hunter will not affect it in a BAD way. You refuse to work hard and earn one like everyone before you has. Using the justification "it would be fun for everybody" isn't true. If you put half the energy you do on working hard in game rather than type the same argument to everyone who attempts to pass you some sense, you might actually have a shot at one.
It's understandable that you might object to the OP's proposal, however, the OP has offered a reasonable solution to your concerns already. ^_^

That it might be "fun for everybody," is perhaps just a manner of speaking, and indeed perhaps an overstatement, honestly however, it would perhaps be more accurate to say, "fun for an overwhelming majority," which a reason that there is optimism for very solid support for Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!! :D

Yet, you haven't provided any explanation about any negative impact on the economy, how would it be bad as you suggest?

As it has been explained is that the economy would be strengthened as it would increase market competition, open opportunities for many more entrepreneurial employment endeavours and these goods would become more reasonably priced.

For those fashionscape minded folks, the partyhats would become more reasonably priced as market competition opens the door for bargain hunters. It's hard work to earn gold pieces, so why pay billions more when you can get it on sale at a more competitive price. :)

So, the economy would strengthen as these entrepreneurial activities increase, provide employment opportunities, new jobs, reasonably priced goods, and that's just one reason to support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!! ! :D
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07-Apr-2017 18:43:23

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Cupboard said:
Partyhats in RS3 are end-game items. They are NOT equivalent to constantly distributed partyhats in OSRS.

If you were suddenly to change the dynamic of the RS3 partyhat from a discontinued (I feel like none of you understand the meaning of this word) state to a state similar to OSRS it would have devastating impacts.

OSRS can get away with cheap partyhats as it isn't a staple of their economy. Partyhats are indeed a staple for RS3. If you took the worlds most valuable item, especially an item that people use as value holders, and you distribute it to the masses, you're going to collapse your market plain and simple.
Granted that it might be a matter of opinion as to what constitutes the "end-game," because there is a sandbox quality to the game which makes the idea subjective but, it is noted here that the crackers that contained the partyhats were given out for free so, in this sense they are actually fun party items rather than "end-game" content.

Just because they are "discontinued" now, there is always the potential for things to change because the game is constantly being updated and so, in the future the crackers and partyhats could potentially be released again as the developers refresh the content. :)

Regardless of whether or not the partyhats are "end-game" content or not, these goods are clearly not a "staple" item since they are not part of the basics of either skilling or combat. The "staples" of the gameplay are things like ores, runes, weapons, armour, etc. etc.

Even though the partyhat market might become more competitive, the overall economy will fluctuate normally and be stable, which means that the collapse of the partyhat market will have little effect on the economy and, the economy could strengthen as prices become more reasonable as the market shifts away from excessivly overinflated wealth tokens and towards the spirit of fun and celebration as the items were meant to be enjoyed. :D
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Jerrbear said:
I'm so sick of people saying that partyhats are impossible to earn. NO they are not impossible, yes they are hard but that's what makes them worth it. Go bossing and keep up with latest bosses. When Araxxor came out I completed a leg as fast as I could and I made 400mil on it. My second leg made about 300mil. By simply keeping up with the latest updates you can earn so much money in such a fast time. You lazy players just want everything to be so easy. Learn to work for something that you want.
Technically, it is impossible to earn because there are not enough partyhats to go around. Also, the supply is decreasing as many are removed from the game via hoarders and banned accounts etc., etc.

I do work hard for my gold pieces, so I'm not about to throw it all away, so by increasing the supply of partyhats, the partyhat market will become more competitive and I will be more able to shop around for more competitive and reasonable prices. :D
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Jerrbear said:
You obviously don't know what impossible means and for that you have no credibility anymore. People are constantly buying and selling partyhats therefore they are not impossible. and if they reincorporate the availability of partyhats then there won't be "competitive and reasonable prices" they will be worth nothing, as in everyone will have one just like in OSRS. If you want a partyhat then play that game because obviously this one isnt for you and your lack of knowledge on the word impossible.
It's understandable that you wish to disagree, however, it is your statement that lacks credibility as you seem to misunderstand the idea that it is "technically" impossible for most people to obtain a partyhat because there simply are not enough partyhats to go around and the problem is exacerbated by the supply of these items decreasing as they are removed from the game via hoarders and banned accounts etc., etc.

So, "technically" these items are "impossible" for a great number of casual players because there are not enough of them to go around and, the supply is decreasing.

If, as you say, the increase of supply will result in the partyhats being worth "nothing" in terms of gold pieces, then that would, in fact, be a much more competitive and reasonable price! :D

Additionally, the worth of the partyhats is not gold pieces, it's not money, it's not ego stroking wealth status prestige, the real worth of the partyhats is fun, celebrations good times and parties!! ^_^

So, everyone should support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter because they symbolize fun and parties and good times with friends old and new and that's what the game is all about !!! :D
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Hailkingchef said:
99% of people who support are probably broke players.
That's a very optimistic statistic + since most people are broke, it suggests that there is potentially an overwhelming majority in support of the OP's suggestion. :D

Hailkingchef said:
This is an embarrassing idea and I hope it gets no thought.
There's no need to be embarrassed, and if you think about it some more you might see that it is an awesome idea, and I won't tell anyone, but thank you for thinking about it ^_^
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Hailkingchef said:
People fail to realize the party hats are the only thing holding the economy together.
Unless you could explain how it "holds the economy together" your statment is not valid for a number of reasons:

1. Most people do not have partyhats, so if the price crashed, most people would not even notice. Thus, it doesn't hold the economy together in any manner simply because most people don't have one.

2. Partyhats are a cosmetic item, it does not help mine ores, it does not help chop trees, it does not help in combat, so it does not hold the economy together because it serves no function other than cosmetic and most people do not even use it for that. Since it doesn't help anyone actually play the game, it doesn't have any significant impact on the economy.

3. Partyhats are made out of pixelated paper, it's a delicate object, it would have a difficult time holding a bunch of feathers together, nevermind the cannon ball market, and it would simply be crushed and sliced under the entire market of cannons, rune bars, scimitars and godswords :P

Increasing the supply of partyhats via Treasure Hunter would actually strengthen the economy by virtue of more people being able to party in the partyhat market ^_^
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Turksta said:
Cupboard said:
... Plenty of people have offered examples, you guys just refuse the answer. I personally don't feel obligated to sit here and teach you basic economics....
...To be honest tho, predicting how partyhats will affect the economy is useless, bcos nobody can be certain - they can jump into conclusions or hypothesize this will happen but unless it actually happens theres no way of really knowing. So ppl shouldn't outrighy say it will destroy the economy because tbh for the reasons some people have provided theyve proven its actually "better" for the economy....
Agreed, economics is not a crystal ball that can all out predict the future.

"...in its broadest sense, 'The economy is defined as a social domain that emphasizes the practices, discourses, and material expressions associated with the production, use, and management of resources' ..."

If anyone is interested, they are welcome to look back through the thread to see that the discussion in favour of partyhats on Treasure Hunter has answered and replied to the debates that have arisen. Specifically, increasing the supply of partyhats will make the price of the item more competitive, its price will collapse but, it has been shown that the economy will strengthen because more people will be able to participate in the partyhat market.

Consider, the collapse of the mint cake market, the crashing prices of godswords or the dragon chainbody, or even the wide ranging fluctuation over the course of a BXPW, none of these events "destroyed" the economy because it's still here, people are still buying and selling the very same things that experienced the most intense price fluctuations.

Generally, as more people are able to enjoy the material expressions of the social domain, the economy will grow and strengthen. Thus, increasing the supply of partyhats via Treasure Hunter will strengthen the economy.
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Dong U Dead said:
We don't want to devalue it's worth and I am not talking money here, but status!
Zyphix said:
It's really not complicated.
Indeed, it's really not complicated to understand that the partyhats' status as a fun holiday cosmetic will be strengthend as the supply increases because more people will be able to enjoy the partyhats. As more people are able to party with the partyhats, the spirit of the game increases, strengthening the economy, and the status of the partyhat as the symbol of fun and good times with friends old and new is also fortified and enhanced!!! :D

Jokku23 said:
@Everyone who thinks this is not good for the economy:
Please elaborate why. Will the G.E. suddenly break when partyhats start selling in G.E.? Or what is the reason?
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Shop_keeper said:
Jokku23 said:
Blackbeard said:
What about the people who invested BILLIONS in rsgp on phats? Do they get compensated? Or is all there hard work flushed down the toilet?

They will learn that investing BILLIONS in paper hats was not a wise decision. This is good because then they will probably not make the same mistake again IRL!

True this. But there will also arise a trust issue with Jagex what is currently there with SOF rares. Why would my phats i bought in the past be released again. That's really a slap in the face of all old players.

But I do agree that the current market domination of the phats from a small group of players should be decreased. So i got a better solution.
You should sacrifice a amount of all discontinued items (for example 10 fish mask, 5 crab hat etc..) and a big amount of XP in exchange for a phat. That way it still needs a lot of effort, keeps expensive but will be more in reach of more players.
Or you should sacrifice a amount of discontinued items and XP to fight a special boss who has a rare change on dropping a phat.
It's not clear to me why veterans of 15 years or more would feel this is a slap in the face. If you remember, the crackers were distributed freely, the only work that was required was to pick one up and pull it with a friend.

Sincerely, I don't disparage anyone who felt compelled, for one reason or another, to grind out billions of gold pieces for something that was practically given out for free. However, the market is unpredictable, and one only has to consider the mighty mint cake to recognize the risks.

Personally, I would support most solutions that would increase the supply of partyhats, including a replay of the 2001 event but, it just so happens that Partyhats on Treasure Hunter has a triple win combo effect. :D
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Shop_keeper said:
... Some people just have it as investment because they believe it won't ever come back and would always rise in price. Destroying that market completely would ruin the fun for these people in the game and will cost some playerbase. They would think Jagex just destroyed their bank and in some way they are right.
Take a look to the gem items. People don't buy it because they think it will crash further. It's a self filling profecy. So you have to do those changes with a lot of care and thinking many lines further about possible conseqences.
Who would have thought that mint cakes would crash, who would have thought that fire runes would skyrocket? What will happen to the mining and smithing markets with the upcoming updates?

Understandably, those that grinded billions of gold pieces for a paper hat might have some concerns about their investments, however all investments carry a certain amount of risk.

Especially in a game such as this where the markets are known to be unpredictable, one should also be very mindful and careful about what to invest in.

Whether it be game updates or pixelated investments, there are always risks.

In my opinion, updating the game to increase the supply of partyhats is worth the risk but, I am certainly open to the methods and manner by which the supply is increased.

All things considered this thread is a pretty good start towards increasing the supply :)
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Micrometre said:
...Phat's have always been an end game item for people throughout the history of the game...
On the contrary, a new player with absolutely no combat or skilling experience is able to wear it. So they are actually a beginning game item :P

When they were released into the game, they were free, anyone could pick up a cracker, pull it with a friend and celebrate the holidays. So partyhats are really a fun celebration item ^_^

Also, the idea of "end game" is very subjective since this game has a sandbox quality to it. Which means that there literally is no "end game" other than various personal goals a player might set for themselves. The "high level content" is rarely referred to as the "end game" it's more often referred to as the "high level content" but it might be just a state of mind. In other words, there does not appear to be an "end" to the game ;)

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Put it this way, Jagex get more money by keeping the prices high as they earn more in bond sales etc.
Presently, the supply of partyhats is decreasing as they are removed from the game via hoarders, banned accounts, etc., etc. As the supply decreases so does their chance to profit decrease because very few people will spend thousands of dollars to buy one.

Increasing supply will increase their chance to profit because it would become more affordable for many more people. That means that the volume of their sales would increase and that means more profit.

For example if only one person could buy a partyhat for $1000, their revenue would be $1000.

But if a hundred people bought a partyhat for $100, their revenue would be $10,000.

So, selling more units at a cheaper price would increase their profits.

Thus, increasing the supply of partyhats via Treasure Hunter would increase two revenue streams, their sales of Bonds as well as their sales of Keys :D
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Micaiah said:
... I'll just stick to the other side so no need to try convince me as much as I don't care to as well. Just going to have fun here! Cheers! :)

Well hello again and welcome back, it's great to see you stick around, Jokku's threads are very interesting, lots of fun, very informative, and somewhat seductive ^_^

Obviously, there is only one person that might convince you to support this thread, and that person would be you, yourself, obviously! :D

Anyway, it's awesome to see that you find Jokku's thread is so irresistible and captivating that you are compelled to come back to reflect on the rational for supporting Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!! Cheers!!!! :D
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Micrometre said:
You have 3 choices really;

1. Earn the money for a partyhat in game.

2. Buy bonds, lets face it,they don't really cost THAAAAT much in cash.

3. Spend all the time you could have put in to the above to complain about the fact that they're expensive items and campaign for their release on treasure hunter which would reduce the partyhats to worthless bits of pixels which nobody would care/wear any longer.

:/

Hard work = reward

Even though you seem reluctant to support Jokku23's suggestion, thank you for confirming that the OP and supporters of this thread are working hard for this campaign to get Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!! :)

Regardless of its cost, however, people would enjoy wearing it because it is a fun item. There are many items that people wear simply because they are fun and so, by increasing the amount of fun items, the fun also increases.

Partyhats are a fun item regardless of cost, therefore, by increasing the amount of partyhats via Treasure Hunter, the fun also increases because more people would be able to enjoy them, and that is the reward of the hard work here :D
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Fix my name said:
But wait...I bet you can't even afford spending couple thousands into bonds.
Much of your comment is irrational and simply inconsistent with Capitalism: an economic system based on private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit.

There is no government in the game, and neither does Jagex seem to be a state owned entity. Therefore, the game has a capitalistic quality to it.

"Partyhats on Treasure Hunter" is a capitalistic venture for Jagex, they are privately owned, they own the means of production to produce game stuff, and these microtransactions are a way to increase their profits.

Rational consumers will tend to purchase things at the cheapest price so, if Jagex sells partyhats at a cheaper price they will be able to maximize their profits.

For example perhaps a ten people will buy a partyhat at $2000, that means they would have $20,000 in sales.

But if they lowered the price to $10 it's likely that 50,000 people would see this as a great deal and buy it, and that means a they would have increased their sales to $500,000.

Thus, by lowering the price of the goods, their sales would increase and therefore, they will be able to capitalize on the sale of partyhats and maximize their profits.

Hence, this thread is in fact, proposing a profit driven solution, consistent with market capitalism, that aims to maximize profits.
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Micrometre said:
Where do these numbers come from?
The numbers are simply examples to illustrate a very common method to increase sales and profit. It can be observed practically everywhere, even here in this game there are routine sales on everything from Treasure Hunter Keys (buy some keys get more free!), Solomon sales (up to 60% off!), and even the VIP Membership was priced more attractively this year.

So the numbers are just examples to illustrate the dynamics of increasing sales and profits by decreasing the price, sell more stuff but at a cheaper price and profits tend to increase.

Micrometre said:
Let's say they are released on TH, who would want to part with their money to buy an item that provides no bonus' and is now worthless due to them being no longer being rares?
From the looks of things there is a market for items that provide no bonus' since lots of people buy Keys to win cosmetic items, such as the Rainbow Cape, and the stuff from Solomon's Store. So there appears to be a sufficient amount of people who are looking to buy cosmetic items, interesting or fashionable things that provide no bonus'.

So that means the partyhat is an ideal candidate to add to the Treasure Hunter :D

Zyphix said:
... It's the right thing to do, but people who don't care about doing the right thing of course will always be against it. It threatens their egos, for whatever odd reasons ...
Indeed, it's the right thing to do and their egos shouldn't feel threatened because their heroic effort to support stuff like this could help build and maintain the game we all enjoy. That is, by supporting ideas such as these it could help Jagex raise funds to continue updating the game and develop new skills and quests and lots of awesome stuff! :D
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Turksta said:
Sintacks said:
There's always the guaranteed method of spending around $1,600~ to get a phat as opposed to hoping Jagex listens to this thread. Tbh, I'm surprised that this thread lasted this long without being locked. O_o
Lets do the math here:
1 bond = 11.8m.
10 bonds = $59.99 USD at it's cheapest.
Therefore, 118m = $59.99 USD
ID discontinued thread;
Using the min prices ofc
Purple: 4150-4300m, 4150/118 x $59.99 = $2109

Yellow: 4350-4550m, 4350/118 x $59.99 = $2211

Green: 4800-5000m 4800/118 x $59.99 = $2440

Red: 6000-6200m 6000/118 x $59.99 = $3050

White: 8400-8900m 8400/118 x $59.99 = $4270

Blue: 12300-12750m 12300/118 x $59.99 = $6253.

For Australians (replace 59.99 with 69.99) ...

Turksta's calculations indicate some hefty price tags that would very likely be too expensive for most people. That means the price point is too high, and it results in lost sales because people are unwilling or unable to pay that much, and that's not a fun method for neither Jagex nor the economy nor most of the players.

By increasing the supply of partyhats and offering an economically reasonable cost by reducing the price, Jagex would be able to increase sales and increase consumer happiness as more people would be willing and able to purchase and enjoy the partyhats.

So, supporting Partyhats on Treasure Hunter would actually help Jagex increase two revenue streams, their sales of Bonds as well as their sales of Keys.

Thus, supporting Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is a guaranteed method to help more people enjoy the partyhats, as well as help Jagex increase sales which means they will be able to fund the development of awesome new updates for everyone to enjoy! :D
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Zooerastia said:
Was looking for the lending thread for party hats when i stumbled across this.....

It's a ridiculous concept to re release partyhats; it's something I've wanted for probably the last 10 years and finally got lucky and managed to get one. Think how unfair it would be on those who have spent years making GP to buy one for it to Drop instantly.


It's understandable that some might be reluctant to support the idea of Partyhats on Treasure Hunter. Everyone is welcome & invited to browse the thread to see the reasons and understand the rationale in favour of supporting the idea.

I won't suggest to you that "life's unfair, you overpaid for it," and I will avoid the drop-kick one-liners such as "Sadly, life isnt fair. The sooner you realize that the better."

As you say you got lucky obtaining wealth so congratulations! ^_^

However, you seem to be lamenting about fairness, and that seems to be at odds with what you described as being lucky. Some people are not as lucky so is that unfair?

Nay, the reasons and rationale that support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter appear to be founded upon the firmest of foundations and that foundation is the foundation of fun! :D

Fun yes! The partyhats are not about wealth, partyhats are about parties, and parties are all about having fun with friends old and new! :D

That is how they came to be in the game in the first place! They were given out for free for everyone to have fun celebrating the holidays! :D

So, if you want to look at it from the angle of "fairness" it would, in fact, more fair to share the fun with everyone, that is, share the partyhats with everyone by releasing them again. Indeed, there's simply not enough partyhats to go around, many are removed from the game, so it would be more fair to release them again via Treasure Hunter.

Therefore, it is more fun & fair to share the parties, release the partyhats!!! :D
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Sintacks said:
Unless they killed off the Bank Bidders update, there's a chance to obtain phats from that. :P


Indeed, clear evidence that they are considering methods to release the partyhats again! :D

And, the OP has presented an awesome triple win method!! :D

Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!! :D :D :D
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Mayahai said:
... I do believe that party hats should remain extremely exclusive because elitist need something to brag with.

... No offense but really, the main reason people want party hats is because of the social status, for the bragging rights. If you want a phat sooooooooooooooo badly you can lend one, go to photo booth and profit. Now your profile pic is beautiful forever.

Honestly phats are overrated and the only reason to keep them exclusive is so that elitist $©um people will not hoard useful or actually good looking items to the point of impossible to obtain...

Well it's understandable that people like to "Role-Play" and pretend to be elitists bragging about a pixelated hat stuck in the 1990's, after all that's what the RP stand for in MMORPG.

Now, these "elitists" as you describe them, may still brag and role-play as elitists even if the supply of partyhats is increased via Treasure Hunter, worlds 41 & 42 are great for that! :D

The triple win here is that everyone will be able to join in this braggartly elitist role-play adventure, everyone is included, as more partyhats are supplied via Treasure Hunter more and more players may role-play as pro-merchers or whatever, and it all helps Jagex raise funds for the upcoming updates for everyone to enjoy! :D

As other "discontinued" items are added to the Treasure Hunter, people are more than welcome to hoard as many as they like since there will always be a constant supply. Alice will surely want you to come and visit her often so there is no doubt that she will always make sure that there's always a chance for you to win a Partyhat and other goodies from her Treasure Chest! :D

So, everyone should support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter because everyone wins, the players, collectors, role-players, and Jagex with the bonus win of awesome updates for everyone!!! :D :D :D
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Smasherley said:
... I feel sometimes I am proof that you can earn such personal prestige without the above.. It is personal and I don't shout it but when you have people hating on others because they took the time to make it and they expect it for nothing.. Makes my blood boil.. It's not just pixels... IT'S TIME...
Jokku23 said:
Don't worry - I have a solution! If there are people who don't want partyhats easily obtainable, I can sell them partyhats for 8B each! Then you can continue to have your fun grind, but the cheerful people can have fun as well! Cheers!


So don't worry my friend! As you can see the OP is there for you! Heck, I'll be happy to sell you some at double that price if you need even greater prestige and status!

And, best of all, you can still role-play as a rude elitist even as the supply of partyhats increases exponentially via Treasure Hunter!!!

Check it out, you'll have more braggart elitists to role-play with as the supply of partyhats increases because the population of elitists will increase exponentially!

That means everyone will enjoy the fun and excitement of being condescending and rude towards each other! It will be the most amazing adventure as the elitists chide one another:

Elitist A: "Look bro I lost way more than you did, like over 9000 bil that took a lot of TIME!"
Elitist B: "PFFT that is so pitiful, I lost like way more like over 9000 tril and it was bloody!"

Elitist A: "Dude, you don't even know about bloody!"
Elitist B: "PFFT you ain't got no bloody all you got is boiling pixels and I still got over 9000 tril!"

Elitist A: "Haters gonna hate!"
Elitist B: "Umad?"

It's a triple win! Everyone gets to join in the role-play riot of rudeness as the market corrections become awesomely thrilling roller coaster ride of vertigo!

And, it all helps Jagex raise funds to develop awesome updates for everyone to enjoy!!! :D :D :D
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Smasherley said:
I imagine the amount of people to be very low that actually feel bad that they've got somewhere in this game for people who want what they can't be bothered to earn properly.. That think this game owes them something and should spite all the people who worked towards something just so they too can have it for little or no effort required.

The truth is that the Christmas Crackers and Partyhats, etc., were gifts, they're presents from Jagex to the players, they're things given to the community for everyone to enjoy. The truth is that it was never something that must people must "earn properly." It's a holiday gift, it was a present for everyone, given freely with much love and affection.

So, the view that it's a reward for grinding GP is really just a myth perpetuated by those who want to unload the item for easy profit.

The constant hyperinflation of the partyhats is proof that certain individuals or groups are routinely flipping it, and perhaps further entrenching the myth that it is some kind of elitist reward. Clearly, those elitist types overpaid for an item that alchs for about 2GP. But, consider this for example, just because someone overpays for a stack of Rune Bars, it doesn't mean that everyone must therefore overpay for Rune Bars.

Just because some people buy into the elitist's myth, doesn't mean that the rest of the game owes those elitists any feels bads either. It's really the elitist's own fault for squandering their money. So, other players don't owe the elitists anything. And, ironically, it's the elitists wearing their partyhats that actually stand around [world 2] begging.

Now, this thread, Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, appears to be a kind of gift, a present to Jagex, it's a suggestion about how to celebrate the holidays, pop the market bubble like a crisp bottle of champagne, and raise some funds for the development of awesome updates for everyone to enjoy! :D
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Smasherley said:
I am also not going to feel bad because I have like 10 120s, NEARLY trimmed comp, phat, full shadow dyed magic gear, Max cash in the bank and the increase in some rares inc the phat which isn't for sale so value is irrelevant to me. I have got it all without merching, staking or scamming and for that I'll have nothing but pride.. If that makes me an elitist then sound. I am a perfectionist, I love fashionscape and I EARNED the right to show it off...

Well good for you my friend, your true colours are shining through!! :D

Congratulations, job well done!!! :D

Certainly, the Ironman-esque style of gameplay is very admirable. But, the great thing about this game is that there are many ways to play it, there are many roles to play and there are many ways to support the game.

One of the ways to support the game is though Treasure Hunter. So, by putting Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, it would actually reduce the undesirable mentalities because more people would be able to contribute to the game by purchasing Keys and, together we could all share the fun with everyone partying with the partyhats! :D
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Smasherley said:
... "life isn't fair" ... Well the answer to that is "tough, life isn't fair".. See what I did there
Kalea Sprite said:
Zooerastia said:
Think how unfair it would be on those who have spent years making GP to buy one for it to Drop instantly.

It's understandable that some might be reluctant to support the idea of Partyhats on Treasure Hunter. Everyone is welcome & invited to browse the thread to see the reasons and understand the rationale in favour of supporting the idea.

I won't suggest to you that "life's unfair, you overpaid for it," and I will avoid the drop-kick one-liners such as "Sadly, life isnt fair. The sooner you realize that the better."

As you say you got lucky obtaining wealth so congratulations! ^_^

However, you seem to be lamenting about fairness ... Nay, the reasons and rationale that support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter appear to be founded upon the firmest of foundations and that foundation is the foundation of fun! :D

Fun yes! The partyhats are not about wealth, partyhats are about parties, and parties are all about having fun with friends old and new! :D

That is how they came to be in the game in the first place! They were given out for free for everyone to have fun celebrating the holidays! :D

So, if you want to look at it from the angle of "fairness" it would, in fact, more fair to share the fun with everyone, that is, share the partyhats with everyone by releasing them again. Indeed, there's simply not enough partyhats to go around, many are removed from the game, so it would be more fair to release them again via Treasure Hunter.

Even though "fairness" is somewhat subjective, the driving point here is that the partyhats for the many outweigh the GP of the few.
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Micrometre said:
Smasherley said:
What do you expect. Elitism comes with time and effort. I haven't wasted years for some whiny little child to cry his way to what I've earned for free. Price fluctuation exists..

Anyone who hoarded clue items has made a huge mint thanks to the luck rings.. But because you never thought of it first, they should lose the profit they've made? It's exactly the same thing..

You're cussing out people who work towards the best because you're unable to and have no desire to earn it and have the audacity to use that as a valid arguement. Elitism is nothing to be ashamed of when you've toiled and earned the right to have something prestigious like phats and dyes..

Why should I feel bad for you?

I ain't gonna have an ounce of sympathy for rude people who refer to a community as scum, delusional, greedy just because they earned where they are and the person saying it can't be bothered

They need to take a long hard look in the mirror


Well put if you ask me.

Pfft no one takes elitism seriously in a game lol :P

Here check out your mirror:

It's not about richness or poorness, it's about how the game is played.

The game is all about having fun! :P

Increasing the supply of Partyhats via Treasure Hunter is a triple win because more people will have more fun partying with the Partyhats, giggling at the elitists and it all helps Jagex fund the development of awesome updates for everyone to enjoy!!! :D
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17-Jun-2017 21:37:16

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Micrometre said:
That's fine and you're entitled to your opinion.

Hurray! We're allowed to have different opinions! :D

Anyway, there is evidence that they are considering ways to bring the Partyhats back here so that's all the more reason to stick around here and provide suggestions about how to revive and refresh the supply of Partyhats for everyone to enjoy! :D

So don't worry, you'll still be able to role-play as the 1337 Elitist even as the supply of Partyhats increases dramatically by a method such as Treasure Hunter or an awesome special edition reboot of The Wheel Partyhats of Fortune! :D

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Draco Burnz said:
Turksta said:
And then there are my posts that no one seems to respond back to.


Yea because most of the time they have nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

Actually, Turksta's comments are more on topic than the stuff you parrot.

Turksta said:
... lets face it the only reason the few players don't support this is cause they don't want their partyhat prices to crash, but hey if you've made all the money up towards a partyhat then making that money back shouldn't be difficult huh? Because we can all agree that 6-16B is a ridiculous pricetag for a paperhat.

Turksta is right the prices are ridiculously distorted. It's very likely that these are not only just inflated they are artificially hyperinflated, they are probably manipulating the markets swapping with alt accounts simply to ratchet up the prices, there is something dodgy going on there.

Generally speaking, flip/merching-investing in Partyhats is overpowered, tends towards illicit activities and the gambit must be nerfed.

A great solution to this problem is presented by the OP: Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!!

Partyhats on Treasure Hunter will help nerf the overpowered flip/merching-investing gambit, help curb the associated illicit activities, help Jagex fund the development of awesome new updates and all in all the vast great super majority will reap the benefits of all those awesome new updates and party with the Partyhats a party where everyone is invited!!!! :D
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Whatusaytome said:
Micrometre said:
Jokku23 said:
Kalea Sprite said:
Smasherley said:
They need to take a long hard look in the mirror

Here check out your mirror:

His title fits that perfectly!
Whatusaytome said:
does that give him indefinite rights to hyperinflation without risk of a justified crash?

It's a very risky investment, considering how much support there is for recontinuing partyhats!

This has to be one of the most selective and patronising threads I've ever come across. The creator of the thread disregards all other points people have made and selects only the points they can argue whilst being patronising with the points they cannot argue.

No point trying to have a discussion with children people! Plus that Kalea girl who seems to reply a lot is so patronising with her responses I can't help but cringe.

Noticed neither of you had anything to say on the point I made.
Whatusaytome said:
does that give him indefinite rights to hyperinflation without risk of a justified crash?

It's really up to you, Micrometre and the gang, to control your emotions but, it's understandable that some are reluctant to support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, it's understood that there are different opinions.

Generally, it's a solution to the problem of the overpowered nature of flip/merching-investing Partyhats and it seems to tend towards illicit activities.

The solution presented by the OP will help address that problem and there would appear to be a vast super majority that would likely support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter and we have been discussing various points of view on the issues, if you feel something is missing, by all means which issues would you like to discuss?
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Whatusaytome said:
just an initial problem with immediate treasure hunter partyhats. that instantly makes players billionaires until the prices do crash. it would take jagex manually lowering the prices into something a little more reasonable before they should be thrown into treasure hunter..

Also, kalea's partyhats of fortune event roll could be a purple gem token reward in place of/or added to the 200m cash reward.

That is an interesting problem and the main question appears to focus on how much are these Partyhats really worth in the first place?

There does not appear to be any accurate information on the issue: is their true value their alchemy value or something else?

On the one hand, it's possible that Jagex might decide to introduce the baseline price after which point the market will fluctuate as normal.

On the other hand, an injection of Partyhats would dramatically decrease their liquidity and would have a comparable effect similar to those tokens from the recent Spring Fayre.

But, yes, how much are these Partyhats really worth in the first place or to what extent are their alleged price ranges artificially hyperinflated or otherwise manipulated?

And, certainly, all kinds of stuff (200m cash prize, prismatic stars, other goodies, etc.) could be on the special event "The Wheel Partyhats of Fortune!" :D
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18-Jun-2017 17:58:19

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Draco Burnz said:
Micrometre said:
This has to be one of the most selective and patronising threads I've ever come across. The creator of the thread disregards all other points people have made and selects only the points they can argue whilst being patronising with the points they cannot argue.

No point trying to have a discussion with children people! Plus that Kalea girl who seems to reply a lot is so patronising with her responses I can't help but cringe.

Good luck with your goal.


Exactly.


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18-Jun-2017 21:30:04

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Jokku23 said:
Micrometre said:
This has to be one of the most selective and patronising threads I've ever come across. The creator of the thread disregards all other points people have made and selects only the points they can argue whilst being patronising with the points they cannot argue.

No point trying to have a discussion with children people! Plus that Kalea girl who seems to reply a lot is so patronising with her responses I can't help but cringe.

First of all, thank you for acknowledging this is patronising thread! Kalea is replying to everyone and making sure they understand why this is a good idea! We are also happy to talk with children because kids are the future and deserve a lot of partyhats!

Sometimes I don't have time to reply to every post, but why is it a problem if Kalea responds instead?

Anyway, if there is a problem you think I have skipped and would like to get a direct reply, I am more than happy to respond! Cheers!


It's true, I am a patron supporting Jokku's thread and the thread is supporting the game with some awesome ideas about how to improve the game for everyone to party with the Partyhats, it's a triple win! :D

I am more than happy to discuss with children, they love to party with the Partyhats! :D

If there are issues that you feel need more discussion, let's discuss because the rational for supporting Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is reasonable and it's a great way to revive and refresh the game with lots of fun! :D

Yes! Partyhats for everyone and there's the added bonus of helping Jagex fund development of awesome updates for everyone! :D
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18-Jun-2017 21:30:11

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Draco Burnz said:
Kalea Sprite said:


Just keep proving you're only here for pc.

Pest Control?

This is a thread about Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, not Pest Control.

Are you suggesting that those flip/merch-investors that pump and dump are a kind of pest?

Indeed, Jagex should consider taking action against that kind of market manipulation.

Partyhats on Treasure Hunter will help nerf the overpowered flip/merching-investing gambits such as the pump and dump, etc.

Partyhats on Treasure Hunter will help curb the associated illicit activities and it will help Jagex fund the development of awesome new updates!

All in all the vast great super majority will reap the benefits of all those awesome new updates and party with the Partyhats, it's a party where everyone is invited!!!! :D
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19-Jun-2017 04:54:45

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Sintacks said:
Surprised I personally haven't been attacked yet.

Well ad hominem attacks aren't particularly useful, so you could ask yourself why do you use of the "if you don't like it, OSRS" gambit?

There's been more than one occasion that the OP and other supporters of the thread have been personally attacked. So let's put an end to that right here and now ^_^

Furthermore, ad hominem is essentially ineffective because we're here simply to state a rational and reasonable case in favour of Partyhats on Treasure Hunter.

Sintacks said:
Turksta said:
Sintacks said:
How this thread lasted 88 pages without being locked as a spam thread is beyond me.
It's a legitimate thread, that's why.


Do you honestly think Jagex would ever implement this in RS3? I don't, tbh. That's why there's OSRS if people want cheap phats.


Well there is evidence that they are considering methods to release the Partyhats again so, it's best to stick around here and offer suggestions.

As you can see, we're supporting the OP because he is helping out by offering this triple win suggestion: Partyhats on Treasure Hunter! :D

But, just because some people are reluctant to support the idea to re-continue the Partyhats, it doesn't mean that anyone should quit or go to OSRS. These options haven't addressed the problems of the Partyhats such as declining supply or other problems that tend towards illicit activities.

The positive outcomes of OSRS can be applied to RS3. For example, the problem of the declining supply of Partyhats (those which are completely removed from the game via banned accounts, etc.), is resolved by increasing the supply and releasing the Partyhats via Treasure Hunter for everyone to enjoy! :D
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19-Jun-2017 05:13:57

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Micrometre said:
Hahaha! God this thread is so cringe. It's like you step on to another planet when you click on it with these two here.

You're more than welcome to cringe but, cringecore doesn't provide any data regarding the price check on the Partyhats.

There is something dodgy about the alleged prices of Partyhats, etc. Hopefully, Jagex will investigate it further in the near future.

Anyway, this is one of the reasons to support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter: it will help nerf the overpowered flip/merching-investing gambits, such as, the pump and dump which tends towards the area of illicit activities, etc.
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19-Jun-2017 07:41:28

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Turksta said:
yes TacoTaco said:
It makes me all giggly reading her posts even given how some them might seem silly but it's so fun to read it ahaha.

Gosh Kalea, I'm starting to like you :o
Agreed.

Thanks for your kind words! :D

I must say that Jokku's cheerfulness inspires entertainment and enlightenment! :D

(Anja probably inspires him too :P)

Batess said:
This is a good idea, but at the same time I believe things are fine the way they are with the phats. it's a symbol of hard work and years of gathering gold to obtain them.

I support all decisions made by Jagex though, so if they are put into treasure hunter. I'm all for it!! would love to get my hands on a green ;)

A green would look awesome on you!! Cheers!!! :D

It's possible that Jagex will release Partyhats and stuff again in order to prevent them from going extinct via banned accounts and whatnot.

They seem to be considering methods of bringing them back from the banned, and they're always looking for suggestions. So anything might be possible and they might consider Partyhats on Treasure Hunter because it's a triple win!!! :D

Jokku23 said:
I would be able to purchase one for myself, but it wouldn't fix the issue for other people! I wouldn't be able to truly enjoy it because I'd be sorry for other people. Always think about others, not just yourself! Cheers!

+1 Cheers!!! :D

Turksta said:
...i think we can all agree that 6b+ for an item in a game where the max cash value is 2b is a bit overboard...

Certainly seems overboard, especially when there isn't any accurate information regarding those alleged prices, it's very likely that those prices are completely fabricated by merch clans, etc.

Thus, Partyhats on Treasure Hunter will help resolve that problem! :D
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20-Jun-2017 09:43:19

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Batess said:
This is a good idea, but at the same time I believe things are fine the way they are with the phats. it's a symbol of hard work and years of gathering gold to obtain them.

I support all decisions made by Jagex though, so if they are put into treasure hunter. I'm all for it!! would love to get my hands on a green ;)

There is a certain kind of balance in Batess' comment. Like Guthix, he likes green! ^_^

Balance is a good thing because presently the supply isn't sufficient to satiate the demand.

Now, the OP has presented an awesome way to balance out the supply and demand for the Partyhats: Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!! :D
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23-Jun-2017 18:51:57

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Turksta said:
... lets face it the only reason the few players don't support this is cause they don't want their partyhat prices to crash, but hey if you've made all the money up towards a partyhat then making that money back shouldn't be difficult huh? Because we can all agree that 6-16B is a ridiculous pricetag for a paperhat.

Turksta is right the prices are ridiculously distorted. It's very likely that these are not only just inflated -- they are artificially hyperinflated.

Various persons are probably manipulating the markets, swapping with alt accounts, etc., simply to ratchet up the prices, there is something dodgy going on there.

Generally speaking, flip/merching-investing in Partyhats is overpowered, tends towards illicit activities, so it must be nerfed.


A great solution to this problem is presented by the OP: Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!!

Partyhats on Treasure Hunter will help nerf the overpowered flip/merching-investing gambit, help curb the associated illicit activities, help Jagex fund the development of awesome new updates and all in all the vast great super majority will reap the benefits of all those awesome new updates and party with the Partyhats a party where everyone is invited!!!! :D
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12-Jul-2017 09:45:48

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Military God said:
...I think the rareness adds to the game giving ppl an amazing goal in trying to get one that only few succeed. The only thing i feel is they shouldve never exceeded 10b it is a bit much but so be it.

It's understandable that some people are reluctant to consider or support updating the game to release stuff like Partyhats again.

However, with respect to amazing goals the Completionist Cape is that amazing goal.

In contrast, Partyhats are a cosmetic holiday item, there are no stats or requirements to wear it, thus putting Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is a triple win!

It helps correct the markets, more people will be able to party with the Partyhats and, it helps Jagex raise funds to hire more people to continue developing the game and release awesome updates for everyone to enjoy! :D
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Draco Burnz said:
Kalea Sprite said:
It helps correct the markets, more people will be able to party with the Partyhats and, it helps Jagex raise funds to hire more people to continue developing the game and release awesome updates for everyone to enjoy!


Yet th as it is, w/o phats, seems to be doing this just fine.

And it will be even better when Partyhats are added to it! :D
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Dong U Dead said:
If they choose to put Phats on TH, then they would need to put all rare items such as Santa Hats, Halloween masks etc

And doing so would or could be a huge risk factor like what happened to wilderness - you can't just add Phats and think things will run smoothly <- this could have the same effect as what the wilderness did or even EOC??

You gotta be careful!

Partyhats on Treasure Hunter wouldn't result in a "wilderness" or "EOC" because the great vast super-majority don't have a Partyhat to begin with.

That is, the great vast super-majority will likely be delighted that they will be able to party with the Partyhats. So, the result would be amazingly positive.

Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is a triple win: it will correct the market, the prices will become more accurate and reasonable; everyone will be able to enjoy the cosmetic delights of the Partyhats; and, it will help Jagex raise funds to hire more people to develop awesome updates for everyone to enjoy! :D
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Draco Burnz said:
Kalea Sprite said:
I'm positive that a great vast majority of cosmetic collectors would love it!


No only you ppl who cant be bothered to see how others feel about having them discontinued would benefit from this.

You're kidding right?

Those elitists don't bother with our feelings, so why bother with theirs :@
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Draco Burnz said:
Kalea Sprite said:
Draco Burnz said:
Kalea Sprite said:
I'm positive that a great vast majority of cosmetic collectors would love it!

No only you ppl who cant be bothered to see how others feel about having them discontinued would benefit from this.

You're kidding right?

Those elitists don't bother with our feelings, so why bother with theirs :@

Ever heard of the saying 2 wrongs dont make a right?

Probably not most likely.

Your comment appears to be, at best, ironic.

However, if your comment is sincere then I have wonderful news for you! :D

Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is a triple win that corrects the Partyhat market, the data will be more accurate and the prices more reasonable, and it helps Jagex raise funds to hire more people to develop awesome updates for everyone to enjoy!

Most importantly, everyone's feelings will be satiated as the Partyhats will be shared with everyone because sharing is caring! :D
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D E L A Y said:
I actually think if it was to be polled, a majority of people would vote for them to be released simply because a majority of the population probably doesn't own a party hat.

I would predict that result as well, but I probably would still play regardless of the results ^_^

D E L A Y said:
Without trying to sound rude all I have to say in regards to that is too bad.

It isn't anyone's fault you weren't playing back then or didn't invest in a rare while you had the chance. Besides if they were released, the community would just flock to the next item with an absurd price and want those to be lowered as well.


There are many different communities in Gielinor, but you seem to be referring to the community of flip/merch-investors.

If so, then it would appear that flip/merch-investing is a type of exploit rather than a gameplay mechanic. Furthermore, flip/merch-investing overpowered and must be nerfed.

D E L A Y said:
I'm all for new colored party hats but don't gank the older players for what they already have.


It would be great if a wide range of new hats was released, as well as the originals because older folks love to share these fun party hats with the young ones ^_^

Still, it's weird that some of the "older" players are triggered into a rage of deniable rudeness over the suggestion of releasing a pixelated partyhat.

Perhaps I'm from another planet but I would expect the "older" players to be a bit more mature and enthusiastic about sharing the original styles of these cosmetic hats with the newer players.

After all, this is just a game ;)

Anyway, Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is a triple win!!!

Everyone will party with the Partyhats, the phat market data will be more accurate and prices more reasonable, and it will help Jagex raise funds to hire more people to develop awesome updates for everyone to enjoy!:D
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D E L A Y said:
...The best analogy I could think of in this situation is what if I told you that Noxious Scythe you just saved up for is only going to cost 5m in the general store because the majority of the player base believes 270m for a weapon is just too much?

I appreciate your reply and I can relate to your analogy because I had worked hard and grinded skills for months and years to get a Saradomin and Armadyl Godsword. This was years back when these Godswords were about 100m. When they crashed and the new stuff became just as expensive if not more I was like, "Wow, here we go again." And I started again to try and get the Drygores, etc. For me, the feeling of loss was only momentary because I wasn't flip/merch-investing these things, I actually used them for slayer tasks and, to this day, I still sometimes use my hard earned Saradomin Godsword for slayer tasks.

So, I understand that loss, but it's really just a part of the game because they are constantly updating and refreshing the game, I think most people recognize that.

However, Noxious Scythe, Praesul codex, Blood dye and Third-Age dye can be replenished, even as they are consumed and removed from the game, more can be found to replenish the supply. Also, these are high level items since you need the stats to wear the gear.

In contrast, Partyhats are a low level cosmetic item, you don't need any stats to wear it. The major difference is that when Partyhats are removed from the game via banned accounts, etc., their supply cannot be replenished and this creates a situation which flip/merch-investors exploit. Flip/merch-investing has become overpowered and must be nerfed.

I think the positive outcomes outweigh any negative outcomes, thus I support threads such as this and for many other reasons I support the release of low level cosmetic items, like the Partyhats, once again.
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Ishtar said:
...poorly disguised greed and obsession that makes certain people like you think it's a problem when it's not a problem. So nah, I'm far from misunderstanding you lot. ..

Your emotional interpretations are unjustified and irrelevant to the discussion.

One the main themes of Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is to share the Partyhats with everyone and this is a contrast to those who are reluctant to support the thread.

Ishtar said:
Doesn't harm your gameplay, does it? It isn't "broken" then.

Putting Partyhats on Treasure Hunter and/or releasing them again at infinite amounts over the holidays for everyone to share and enjoy will not harm your gameplay either.

Kalea Sprite said:
... Partyhats are a low level cosmetic item, you don't need any stats to wear it.

[the problem] is that when Partyhats are removed from the game via banned accounts, etc., their supply cannot be replenished and this creates a situation which flip/merch-investors exploit. Flip/merch-investing has become overpowered and must be nerfed.

I think the positive outcomes outweigh any negative outcomes, thus I support threads such as this, and for many other reasons I support the release of low level cosmetic items, like the Partyhats, once again.
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19-Jul-2017 22:52:51

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D E L A Y said:
...The concept of "only for fun" hasn't been relevant for over 15 years...

Well this is another great reason to revive and refresh the supply of Partyhats, let's bring the fun back to the Partyhat party.

Rather than have them locked up on banned accounts or rotting away imprisoned in the stale dank stacks of the flip/merch-investors' hoards, let's set them free, let the Partyhats bring joy and delight to the entire community once again!

Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter and together we can revitalize and refresh the fun by inviting everyone to share the enjoyment of the Partyhat Party! :D
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Draco Burnz said:
Turksta said:


W/e, lets get back on topic.
Draco Burnz said:
...Yes but this is jagex's game and they can rerelease whatever they want whenever they want.
Draco Burnz said:
...Yet if profit can be made, it will be rereleased.

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, this also appears to be consistent with the discussion in support of Partyhats on Treasure Hunter.

As the OP indicated, Partyhats on Treasure Hunter will help Jagex raise funds to hire more people to develop awesome updates for everyone to enjoy! :D
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Jokku23 said:
Kalea Sprite said:
Draco Burnz said:
...Yes but this is jagex's game and they can rerelease whatever they want whenever they want.
Draco Burnz said:
...Yet if profit can be made, it will be rereleased.

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, this also appears to be consistent with the discussion in support of Partyhats on Treasure Hunter.

As the OP indicated, Partyhats on Treasure Hunter will help Jagex raise funds to hire more people to develop awesome updates for everyone to enjoy! :D

Well said Draco! Cheers!

Support bump! :D
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a dog said:
...The merchant aspect had been debunked by myself many times over that partyhats are not as OP as you think they are...

If the merchant aspect isn't overpowered then nerfing it, by releasing the Partyhats again, wouldn't cause any concerns.

Thus, putting Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is an excellent triple win idea! :D
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a dog said:
... All speculation, and not even that compelling of an argument whatsoever. At some level, if partyhats were to be hypothetically rereleased, and they were common, nobody would buy keys.

To be fair, there is speculation all across the board.

However, consider the Rainbow Capes, they were on the Treasure Hunter several times, and people are still buying keys.

So, we might speculate that there would be a similar result with the Partyhats.

Partyhats could be on Treasure Hunter several times and people would still buy keys! ^_^

Support bump!

Partyhats on Treasure Hunter! :D
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Draco Burnz said:
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So, we might speculate that there would be a similar result with the Partyhats.

Partyhats could be on Treasure Hunter several times and people would still buy keys!


Yet the happy fact is that this will never happen :)
Draco Burnz said:
...Yes but this is jagex's game and they can rerelease whatever they want whenever they want.
Draco Burnz said:
...Yet if profit can be made, it will be rereleased.

If you're reluctant to support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, that's ok.

However, Draco Burnz, your sanctimonious comments are contradictory.

Thus, any speculation about the "facts" reveals that anything can happen.

The future may unfold with the release of the Partyhats once again, and perhaps they'll be on Treasure Hunter because it's a triple win idea! :D

Support bump!

Partyhats on Treasure Hunter! :D
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One of the problems is that the some of the banned accounts are removing the original styles of Partyhats, and other items, from the game.

Rather than allow the banned accounts take the Partyhats away from the game, the Partyhats should be released again for the legitimate law-abiding players to enjoy.

In other words, banned accounts should give the Partyhats back to the game.

Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is a triple win that corrects the Partyhat market and it helps Jagex raise funds to hire more people to develop awesome updates for everyone to enjoy!

Plus, the legitimate law-abiding players will be able to enjoy the original styles of Partyhats! :D

Bring them back from the banned!

Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!! :D
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IggyPop said:
well they may have been intended by the handful of devs presiding over a large community to be that way, but the community have decided, in their masses over time, what a partyhat means to them.

i was reading a thing recently about the concept of when art becomes the property of the user/public. if an artist (or in this case game dev) makes a little thing with a small thought of fun in mind, and then the millions of people decide it means something greatly more important to them than was ever intended... is it really that one creators right to say "no, i have the power over this and i will destroy your thoughts and love of this thing" or at that point, is it so widely believed and revered that it belongs to the many people who feel so passionately about it.
like if da vinci came back from the past and thought "actually i dont like the mona lisa" and drew a painting of a turd on it, would that be allowed? something makes me think not.

Cool story but, why would da Vinci paint turd?

Furthermore, Mona Lisa isn't a pixelated Partyhat.

A closer analogy would be a poster-copy, as many can be reproduced as needed.

Now, one of the problems is that the some of the banned accounts are removing the original styles of Partyhats, and other items, from the game.

Rather than allow the banned accounts take the Partyhats away from the game, the Partyhats should be released again for the legitimate law-abiding players to enjoy.

In other words, banned accounts should give the Partyhats back to the game.

Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is a triple win that corrects the Partyhat market and it helps Jagex raise funds to hire more people to develop awesome updates for everyone to enjoy!

Plus, the legitimate law-abiding players will be able to enjoy the original styles of Partyhats!

Bring them back from the banned!

Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!! :D
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I Am Singham said:
... It's really not that hard to understand. Jeez.

Jeez, it's really not that hard to understand that Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is a triple win for everyone since it will help correct the markets by increasing the supply the price point will become more reasonable, and this will also deter illicit behaviour such as market manipulation as well as help Jagex raise funds to hire more people to help maintain, develop and create awesome updates for everyone to enjoy!

Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!!! :D
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Whatusaytome said:
Jokku23 said:
Cheerless said:
Won't happen.

I'm on board though, I just like the way the purple one looks.

Cheers for your support, Cheerful Cheerless! I'm jealous of your title. I hope I can be cheerful again soon!

Artea said:
I have had many phat sets and I FULLY SUPPORT this message ;)

Cheers for your support! You both have very good titles! Cheers!

Keep doing what you do Jokku, you are a good dude :)


Hiya everyone!!! :D

Much more support for Partyhats on Treasure Hunter because it's a triple win and an awesome way to release other cool stuff like Santa Costume Tokens and much much more!!!

SUPPORT!!!
Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!!
OH YA!!! :D
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KaLuKaLay said:
This would ruin the economy bring partyhats back on treasure hunter is an Idiotic idea, Jagex wouldn't win, they gain more from the sale of bonds by players looking to gain a foothold into the discontinued items market whether its partyhats or lower discontinued items.
It doesn't "ruin the economy" for normal players, only for those who invested in partyhats to make profit. For others it improves the economy...
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Hailkingchef said:
People fail to realize the party hats are the only thing holding the economy together.
Unless you could explain how it "holds the economy together" your statment is not valid for a number of reasons:

1. Most people do not have partyhats, so if the price crashed, most people would not even notice. Thus, it doesn't hold the economy together in any manner simply because most people don't have one.

2. Partyhats are a cosmetic item, it does not help mine ores, it does not help chop trees, it does not help in combat, so it does not hold the economy together because it serves no function other than cosmetic ... Since it doesn't help anyone actually play the game, it doesn't have any significant impact on the economy.

3. Partyhats are made out of pixelated paper, it's a delicate object, it would have a difficult time holding a bunch of feathers together, nevermind the cannon ball market, and it would simply be crushed and sliced under the entire market of cannons, rune bars, scimitars and godswords :P

Increasing the supply of partyhats via Treasure Hunter would actually strengthen the economy by virtue of more people being able to party in the partyhat market ^_^

It's a triple win! Stronger economy, more partyhat parties and it helps Jagex hire more people to make more updates for everyone to enjoy!

Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!!! :D
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Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is an excellent way to help Jagex hire more people to make more updates for everyone to enjoy!

Increasing supply via Treasure Hunter will increase Jagex's chance to profit because it would become more affordable for many more people. That means that the volume of their sales would increase and that means more profit.

For example if only one person could buy a partyhat for $1000, their revenue would be $1000.

But if a hundred people bought a partyhat for $100, their revenue would be $10,000.

So, selling more units at a cheaper price would increase their sales revenue and profit!

Thus, increasing the supply of partyhats via Treasure Hunter would increase two revenue streams, their sales of Bonds as well as their sales of Keys! :D

Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!!! :D
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Cozy Viking said:
i think it would be a good idea to add them to spins because then everyone would have a chance to be a billionaire, the price of the phats might go down though thats the only issue

That's an issue for practically every commodity which might be observed on the Common Trade Index, however the inflation spike is suspicious when compared to its alchemy value.

With a special sales event Partyhats on Treasure Hunter would increase sales because people like to buy things when they go on sale. As more people buy stuff that's on sale, sales increase. So, when Partyhats on Treasure Hunter go on sale, sales would increase.

It's a triple win!!!

Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!!! :D
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Tom Grey said:
I can explain how partyhats hold the economy together. Those cannonballs that you currently buy at 430gp, are priced relative to the amount of money changing hands on a daily basis. Partyhats are very expensive. Players hold wealth in ge / banks to ensure they have enough to buy one ether for flipping / merching / owning. Release more partyhats into the game and you will get that wealth redistributed. You might not mind cannonballs at 1k


First, it should be noted that flip/merch-investing should be nerfed because it is overpowered.

It would be unlikely for the situation you describe to occur because the idea of merching is basically, "buy low, sell high." However, this means that other people are selling low and others buying high.

Now, just to summarize quickly, the market will balance because in many of these instances flip/merch-investers are often pressed to unload their stock at low prices because they require immediate funds. Thus, it's unlikely for the situation you describe to occur.

Anyway, more support for Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!!

Cheers!! :D
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Thatds said:
...If they add new party hats and such, let them add the party hats in via a holiday event.


This is also an awesome idea!

And, certainly, there are many many many other ways to release the Partyhats again and there are many many many awesome ideas about how to release the Partyhats again! And, with all this discussion hopefully Jagex will incorporate some of these great ideas into the upcoming updates!

Now, Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is worth supporting because it's a triple win idea: it corrects the markets which will help balance the economy; it helps more people enjoy the Partyhat Party and more parties means more fun and good times for everyone; especially since it will also help Jagex increase sales and then they will be able to expand and hire more people to create more super awesome updates for everyone to enjoy!!! :D

So, Partyhats on Treasure Hunter because it's a triple win for everyone! :D
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Draco Burnz said:
Kalea Sprite said:


Sigh.

Oh yes, you may breath a sigh of relief!

Don't worry my friend, sooner or later they will release the Partyhats again! :D

Perhaps they'll release them again with some of the awesome ideas that have been presented around the forums. Clearly, one of the best ways to release the Partyhats again is with Treasure Hunter, it's a triple win!!!

Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!! :D
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Thatds said:
...You want a party hat? Make Jagex release them via a New Year's Party Hat drop. Everyone gets one. Bob, the botter, gets one. 1337cashstax, the mercher, gets one. xXProReapsXx, the Overwatch player, gets one. Everyone gets a party hat.

But, for the love of god, never release them via Treasure Hunter. That thing's enough of a soulless cash grab.
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Thatds said:
...If they add new party hats and such, let them add the party hats in via a holiday event.

This is also an awesome idea!

And, certainly, there are many many many other ways to release the Partyhats again and there are many many many awesome ideas about how to release the Partyhats again! And, with all this discussion hopefully Jagex will incorporate some of these great ideas into the upcoming updates! ...

There's no need for any misunderstandings about releasing the partyhats again since I will support practically all ideas that achieve that goal, including your suggestion to release them via a New Year's Party Hat drop.

Your is a very wonderful idea and forgive me if I might say that it's as good as Partyhats on Treasure Hunter which simply happens to be the topic of this thread.

If I may augment your idea transmogrified into a holiday quest event, I feel compelled to anchor it to this thread with something called "blueprints" which could also be won on Treasure Hunter :O
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So ya, Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is a triple win idea and I also kinda like the idea of a holiday event quest ( open to everyone, even f2p! )

It could start out with Party Pete, he needs your help to find out what happened to all the partyhats because he wants to invite everyone to a super awesome balloon party event to celebrate the holidays.

He says he was searching just north of Falador when the Flickering Wisps seem to beckon him forth. As he examined them closely he was amazed to discover one of Guthix's memories:



And so, the quest is an adventure to find the elves that might know something about the designs and schematics that Guthix gifted them so very long ago!
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( Sometimes people will find "blueprints" but it doesn't fit with Guthix's designs and schematics because Guthix is green. But they might become useful so it's good to keep the "blueprints" However, if one desires, one might partake in those delightful, perhaps sinful, indulgences such as purchasing keys from Alice and perhaps she will let you win some more of those delectable "blueprints" )

And so, while questing and searching for elves it turns out that the designs and schematics are in the clutches of the fearsome red dragon formerly known as Zmaogg!



Upon defeating Zmaogg, The Supreme Collector All Mighty Mega Elite Red Dragon, the designs and schematics are found in his hoard of treasures!

Once retrieved, the player gains the ability to make the original styles of Partyhats and Crackers, and with some Invention skill, also able to create new and interesting party accessories!

Then upon returning to Party Pete a massive balloon drop party is arranged and lots of Partyhats and festive stuff is rewarded! :D

And then you can always hang out with Alice and Yelps at the after party with the partyhats :D
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Konota said:
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[...]

You're here to discuss phats or making your own suggestion?


Yes, Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is a triple win idea and there are many awesome ideas about how to release the partyhats again, perhaps some of these ideas will find their way into the upcoming updates! :D

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Your Daddy said:
Now if you truly want to give Jagex a reason to introduce discontinued items, just tell them with an open heart that a large portion of their game will become meaningless


It's actually quite the opposite, partyhats are actually a very small part of the game because, it should be obvious, that combat and skilling and questing are the large part of the game.

Partyhats by their very nature don't help in combat or skilling, it's a cosmetic item.

Additionally, there are very few of them.

Therefore, at present, they are a very very very small part of the game.

When the partyhats are released again, there will be more of them, more people will be able to be able to enjoy them as they do slayer tasks or farming runs, etc., however, they would still remain in the realm of cosmetic items without even impacting the actual game which is largely comprised of skilling and combat or questing.

Therefore, the large part of the game will still remain as meaningful as it is now, with the additional bonus of more people enjoying the partyhats as they adventure through Gielinor.

Support!! Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!! :D
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Quavelen said:
This is awesome, lol. Even if it is a troll, please add me to the list of supporters.

I doubt Jagex will actually ever do something like this, but imagining it happening is extremely enjoyable. The endless salt and ranting from the Phat Merchers in the ''R Quark'' group alone, would make it a dream come true for me.


Also, I took the liberty of posting this thread on Reddit to help it gain even more traction. Lots of support for it over there, as well:


https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/8s7y2v/partyhats_on_treasure_hunter_cant_tell_if_this_is/


I'm a solid supporter of this thread (and support practically all those who would like to see the partyhats released again by practically any method) so this isn't a troll post as those who are opposed to the idea of releasing the partyhats tend to believe.

Over the years many people have suggested many different ways to release the partyhats again, thus the idea of Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is a legitimate suggestion.

And, there are additional bonuses, it's a triple win because more people will be able to party with the partyhats, the scammers (third party RWT, etc.) will be curtailed, the artificial inflation triggered by pump and dumpers will be reduced and Jagex will realize additional sales and profits with which they will be able to hire more people to create more and more awesome updates for everyone to enjoy!

Thanks for posting it on reddit!

Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!! :D

WOOOO!!! :D
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Draco Burnz said:
NeuralNet said:
I withdraw my support now that RunePass exists. Instead, we should have party hats on RunePass.


Nah they should be on solomons ;) /s


Oh yes, these are all wonderful ideas!!

I support all those ideas, Partyhats on RunePass, Partyhats on Solomons and of course Partyhats on Treasure Hunter!

Support! Support! Support!

Bumparoo! :D
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Fock Lord said:
people with these ideas ruin every wonderful game, someone bring this thread down. what kind of stupidity is this? imagine everyone having a Mona Lisa and their all the original thats just mind boggling. :@


Rumor has it that the original Partyhat artwork was covertly commissioned by Banksy and as soon as it was sold the original artworks shredded itself.

Thus, all that remains are these pixel copies of that original artwork, they're like screenshots of the original, photocopies if you will.

It's only because of these "pump and dump" scams that various flip/merch/investor engage in that people are lured in to believing that they are worth astronomical amounts of fictional gold.

Pixel gold is as common as stupidity one might say which suggests that it's actually better for Jagex to get in on the action since they own the game anyway.

Absolutely they should put Partyhats on Treasure Hunter because it will help increase their sales and then they can hire more people to make more awesome update for everyone to enjoy!

So that's why I support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter because it's the right thing to do.
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I see adding partyhats to TH causing a very small portion of Runescape's top 1% to quit ... And I'd also be skeptical that the new players would be as reliable a source of income via monthly membership as the players lost, simply because retaining customers is much easier than new customer acquisition.

You raise some very good points, I don't have access to any data regarding such trends, so it's really only Jagex that might arrive at a conclusion.

However, it's very likely that if someone quits just because of a paper hat, they will very likely come back because there is more to the game than just these cosmetic items. Jagex is continually adding new content such as skills and quests and more.

So, if the 1% threaten to quit because of this, I think they're bluffing, I think they'll be back the next day or few months, thus I maintain that Partyhats on Treasure Hunter (or Solomon's Store, etc.) is a good idea.
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Thundercats said:
Feels like after a week of everyone having Phats, almost all players will stop wearing them in order to find something else to wear that will make them unique.
Blackwing said:
It seems some of them still don't know that Jagex specifically said that items like partyhats wouldn't be discontinued, so their price is perhaps higher right now than it should be.
Whatusaytome said:
And anybody who has that total wealth already can more than comfortably afford the loss, which is fair because they should know the items weren't guaranteed to be safe and always increasing anyway.

That appears to be the pattern with cosmetic items, there is a spike in interest upon release then item approaches equilibrium, so the feels here are that there would be approximately the same number of people partying with the Partyhats but the difference would be that the poor people partying rather than the uber-rich and they would still be included in that party. That appears to be the pattern in OSRS if the price of them is considered an indicator, but what it indicates is uncertain since access to the data is restricted.

I think that one of the main reasons to release the Partyhats again is to nerf the flip/merch/investing activity. In terms of gp/hour, flip/merch/investing, is a passive activity, practically afk activity, so it shouldn't outpace an activity like pvm combat, slaying, bossing etc.

It is a problem of game balance, consider that gaining 1 billion gp bossing would require hundreds of hours actually logged in and playing the game but, the same amount could be gained flipping phats without even logging into the game so, flip/merch/investing is overpowered and should be nerfed.

But, again, the Partyhats are basically holiday items that should be shared with everyone, so releasing them again for everyone is the right thing to do.
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Blackwing said:
Like said though, no matter where I go, partyhats are a very, very rare sight. That includes various skilling locations.

No matter where I go, the earth is flat, therefore the earth is flat.

But, when I look at more data, I will arrive at another conclusion.

None of us has access to the data, so it's only Jagex that are able to see the big picture.

As Jokku has maintained these holiday cosmetic items are supposed to be fun for everyone, how can the spirit of cheerfulness be shared if it's hoarded away in a flip/merch/investor's bank and practically extinct?


So, Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is the right thing to do because it will nerf greed and buff cheerfulness.
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Whatusaytome said:
Add overrides to osrs and I guarantee more Partyhats will start appearing in areas Blackwing would visit ... Just because you don't see them, or look for them obviously, doesn't mean they aren't there.
Agreed.

SSS Doom SSS said:
If this happens hell will freeze to ice, people will run to wildy to get pked, GE will crash, everyone will cry. Ripper demons will rain from the sky and 98% of the player will quit.

MasterDoomy, there's no need to cry, I will summon help from The Cheerful Spirit Plane!

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Jokku23 said:
Blackwing said:
The end result is the same on both games: many don't own one. The reason why that is, is what changes from one game to another.

Ok? I think we should look where this all started. I said "in Old School I can use my partyhat whenever I choose to". You replied "...but you can use your partyhat in RS3 as well whenever you choose to if you own one." But I don't own one.

Jokku nailed it again, he's absolutely right!

That's why Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is an awesome idea because then everyone will be able to choose to party with the Partyhats! :D
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Blackwing said:
go back to the "alternative versions are fine but not originals" stance.

I'm in favor of the release all versions stance.

Release all the original Christmas Crackers, Partyhats, holiday items both new and old cuz when it's cold, sharing the fun with everyone is where the warmth starts with cheerful hearts! :D
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No support, not even in the least. If everyone had the best gear in the game, there wouldnt be any point in playing. If everyone in the world owned the worlds fastest car, then owning the fastest car in the world becomes pointless. Party hats were realeased as a holiday item and they are so valueable purely because few people kept them and many were lost, so they are the rarest items in the game.

Your passive aggressive replies are not funny, edgy, or helpful. They only make you look like a prat.
Passive aggressive? I'll have you know that I'm not passive in the slightest! I'm aggressively defending Partyhats on Treasure Hunter because it's the right thing to do!

Perhaps it's you, Beastbread, yes it's you, perhaps you should look in the mirror and you will see your reflection of passive aggressiveness!

See here, we are not talking about cars, nor the best gear, Partyhat don't have wheels or engines and they don't have any combat stats or skill boosts, Partyhats are cosmetic holiday items!

You can verify this for yourself and you will see that a player with no combat or skill experience may wear this cosmetic holiday item so, Partyhats are simply fun and cheerful cosmetics are to be shared with everyone and everyone must be invited to the Partyhat parties and the way to do that is to release them on Treasure Hunter! :D
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18-Nov-2018 23:47:50

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Eden Syvian said:
This thread makes me wish the Mayans were right about 2012.
The Mayans were right, their calendar spanned several thousand years but, like most calendars there is an awesome holiday, celebrations and parties to mark the end of one calendar and beginning of the next calendar.

So, the Mayans would appear to agree that an awesome way to celebrate the holidays is to release the Partyhats once again for everyone to enjoy, and a really cool way to do that is Partyhats on Treasure Hunter! :D
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21-Nov-2018 06:30:22

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Eden Syvian said:
Let me rephrase, ahem.

This thread makes me wish that our initial interpretation of the Mayan Calendar was correct, and we all infact fucking died in 2012. Our brains have been diluting instead of evolving ever since and this thread and everyone who supports it is proof.
Relax bro, think about it, it's your interpretation of the Mayan Calendar that is diluting your brain with myths like your interpretation of Partyhats is simply a myth diluting your brain from the fact that Partyhats are actually just pixel images on computer screens. And that's proof that it's you that's diluting your own brain with your initial interpretations!

You may grovel all you like, Eden Syvian, but in reality Partyhats have no combat stats since they are simply holiday items that were shared with everyone to celebrate the holidays. Clearly, you're the dillusional one, you've been lured into thinking these things are worth billions but they actually alch for exactly zero gold pieces.

That's right, you've been conned, Eden Syvian, you've been duped, decieved or simply scammed by the pump and dump schemes of the flip/merch/investors, they've hoarded all these Partyhats and you've been baited by the myth that giving them billions means you've achieved something.

There's no doubt that they're happy for you because they got all your money and all you got is your myth, just like your interpretation of the Mayans you've diluted your own brain.

When you realize you paid billions for a myth, the truth hurts, no doubt.

The reality is that flip/merch/investing things like Partyhats is an overpowered afk activity and it must be nerfed, it's a problem of game balance, and the solution is to release the Partyhats again on Treasure Hunter, or
Solomon's Store
, etc.

There are many great ways to save the Partyhats from extinction, Partyhats could be on sale at Solomon's Store or we could even summon Yelps!

:D
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21-Nov-2018 18:31:54

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Eden Syvian said:
Maybe you should look...

Maybe you should look again at your mythical interpretations of what you speak about.

The reality is that flip/merch/investing is an overpowered afk activity and it must be nerfed, it's Jagex's game and they'll update it eventually, we're just offering solutions.

There's nothing illegal here because it's just a game bro, relax, Partyhats are for everyone to share because sharing is caring and the best way to celebrate and share the holiday cheer is to release the Partyhats on Treasure Hunter and Solomon's Store at the same time! :D

Partyhats for everyone! :D
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21-Nov-2018 19:21:41

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Eden Syvian said:
concession of defeat
You've already presented your concession of defeat, it's clear from your triggered use of profanity and your Mayan myth making, you've been defeated by your own disillusions.
Additionally, with bonds, f2p players can enjoy all the benefits of MTX and can practically play for free too!

Jagex has already acknowledged that flip/merch/investing might be abused and overpowered: just look at the buy/sell limits on the Grand Exchange.

So, flip/merch/investing is already acknowledged as overpowered and must be nerfed, specifically here by increasing the supply of Partyhats.

Increasing the supply of Partyhats is a multiple win for everyone, everyone gets to party with the Partyhats, Jagex increases their sales and, they'll be able to hire more people to develop more awesome updates for everyone to enjoy!

This is why Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, or Solomon's Store., etc., wins time and time again!!! :D
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21-Nov-2018 21:36:34

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Eden Syvian said:
Another point. Saying Flip/Merch profit on party hats is op is like crying at top tier pvmers being able to make 100m a day because they can do telos, Aod, Solak and other end game bosses efficiently. When this idea flops are you going to focus your angst and edge at the profitability of Pvm next because you’re god awful bad at it? ‘Hey that Staff of sliske looks pretty it’s not fair I want one, oo and maybe slap an ice dye on it it will match my festive wings for Christmas :P ‘JAGEX GIVE ME FREE STUFF PLOX’

Party hat owners should be allowed to revel in the luxury that comes with owning one because they’ve earned it. They’re only traded amongst the top 1% so it doesn’t even affect any of you.

Your views are as conflicted and contradictory as a coconut pretending to be a banana, on the one hand you rant about "working for gps by pvm," but on the other hand you rage on about "luxury gps by flipping out phats."

You may rant and rage with profanity in your conflicted way, but it doesn't change the fact that your Mayan myths and free gps for rich afk flippers has been defeated.

Clearly, actively logging in and earning gps by doing things such as bossing should yield higher rewards rather than inactive, not even logged in and passively amassing gps by flip/merch/investing.

Again you have been defeated by the point that flip/merch/investing is overpowered and it must be nerfed: the buy/sell limits on the GE are evidence that Jagex has acknowledged it.

But, you defeated yourself long ago with your Mayan myth making and your myths about the Partyhats are just another example that you've shot yourself in the foot.

Therefore, I firmly maintain that the Partyhats are fun holiday items that should be shared with everyone and there are many ways to accomplish this such as Partyhats on Treasure Hunter! :D

These are cosmetic items, it's not combat gear, and the vast majority support releasing Partyhats again! :D
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22-Nov-2018 19:02:11

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Eden Syvian said:
You're just refusing to take in to consideration the amount of tireless effort that goes in to achieving your FIRST party hat. Breaking in to that market and becoming part of the 1%. It takes years of commitment. Having succeeded in your endeavor to become the best, then you have every right like I said to revel in the various luxuries that come with it.

The effort required to get a Partyhat was to find someone to pull the cracker with so your myths about efforts are severely distorted.

There is more effort required to gear up for bossing than there is afk effort required for flip/merch/investing.

I think that the data will show that most who have phats acquired their wealth by flip/merch/investing rather than actively playing the game.

The point stands, the Partyhats must be released again, there are many ways to do this such as, Partyhats on Treasure Hunter! :D

Partyhats on Treasure Hunter !!

Super Support !

WOO-HOO!!! :D
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22-Nov-2018 19:31:53

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Eden Syvian said:
I flip merch all the time because I consider it a waste of time not to.
Well, there you go, again you have proved my point, you've confirmed that flip/merch/investing is overpowered because everything else is a "waste of time."

Specifically here on the topic of Partyhats, flip/merch/investing is even more than excessively overpowered and it must be nerfed.

I'm not offended by your ranting and raging because the more that you do that, the more you strengthen the case in favour of releasing the Partyhats again because people only engage in profanity when they know that they have lost, it's like when you stub your toe, you curse.

So, when your myths about Partyhats are busted, you curse, thus, proving that Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is the right thing to do :D

Thanks for supporting the position to release the Partyhats again for everyone to enjoy! :D
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