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Jokku23

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D E L A Y said:
As for your last statement, I think a lot of "older" players are hostile towards this proposed idea simply because it isn't fair to anyone who actually put blood, sweat, and tears in obtaining their rare. Not everyone who owns a party hat is an elitist who manipulates the market and has billions in their bank and can afford to take billions in loss. For example, I own a party hat. Unfortunately, I don't have anymore or even a billion in the bank. It took me years to obtain my party hat. I would be in shock if they were released simply because of the price tag or to allow people to dress up the way they want.

At the end of the day it is just a game but that doesn't take away from the hard work and dedication players put into their account stats and wealth.

The best analogy I could think of in this situation is what if I told you that Noxious Scythe you just saved up for is only going to cost 5m in the general store because the majority of the player base believes 270m for a weapon is just too much? Or how about that Praesul codex you just received as a drop only costs 15m now instead of 688m because it wasn't fair to the majority of the players? We could also use Blood dye and Third-Age dye as an example...Is dye really worth 2+ billion? It only gives a cosmetic difference.

That's how I feel about the issue.

I suggest reading this and the post below it.

Also, I have Noxious Scythe, and it would make no difference to me if it was sold for 5m in the general store because I don't ever plan to sell it. On the other hand, you are comparing T0 partyhats and T90 nox weapons. Also, blood dyes and 3rd age dyes were supposed to be rare to begin with, while partyhats were supposed to be fun holiday items everyone could enjoy!
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19-Jul-2017 08:09:33

Turksta
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Jokku23 said:
blood dyes and 3rd age dyes were supposed to be rare to begin with, while partyhats were supposed to be fun holiday items everyone could enjoy!
Exactly.
People who use the "But i will lose billions of money" are ignoring the problem and using their selfish/greedy personal reasons to "reason" with why they don't want these items returned.

19-Jul-2017 08:44:41 - Last edited on 19-Jul-2017 08:45:59 by Turksta

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Turksta said:
Jokku23 said:
blood dyes and 3rd age dyes were supposed to be rare to begin with, while partyhats were supposed to be fun holiday items everyone could enjoy!
Exactly.
People who use the "But i will lose billions of money" are ignoring the problem and using their selfish/greedy personal reasons to "reason" with why they don't want these items returned.


The reason of "I will lose billions" is a much more sound argument in the present day than "partyhats were supposed to be fun holiday items everyone could enjoy". I would say its irrelevant what they were intended to be. Rares are a type of item. Jagex has even created more of them themselves such as the black santa and Christmas scythe.

19-Jul-2017 10:36:30 - Last edited on 19-Jul-2017 10:37:31 by a dog

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Whatusaytome said:
To counter your point on that topic,

Example:
Partyhat- 13b. flip profit margin 300m
Third age Ranged set - lets say 130m. lets also say profit margin of 9m just for giggles.

With that 13b from a partyhat, I can buy a whole 100 sets of Third age Ranged. and flip them for an even 9m profit each, WOW! I just made 900m in 100 flips! not bad, right?

Well considering how long it would take me to buy 100 third age sets, and be able to sell them all, even if I did get that full maximum profit. It would only take 3 flips to match that with a single partyhat. which I don't even have to actively flip, I just sit and enjoy my day waiting for messages, which can also be done while I flip third age in the meantime.

Then again.. I can let R Quark name the next raised price and actively search for a buyer. then play the flip waiting game again


The speculation about R Quark isn't really an argument though. You cut down on the number of items with 13b in black santas or 13b in staffs of sliske if time were an issue.

19-Jul-2017 10:41:39

Jokku23

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a dog said:
Nope. Literally no relevance.

a dog said:
I would say its irrelevant what they were intended to be.

Such is the answer of a person in denial.
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19-Jul-2017 10:49:29

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Just change said:
Yeah maybe could support this

Cheers for your support! Cheers!

Transcendent said:
The only Phats that should come back into game are the ones from banned accounts.

New colors like orange, pink, black, brown, or whatever other color doesn't exist yet would be fine until a limited number of them come into the game.

Cheers for your partial support! Cheers!
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19-Jul-2017 11:00:57

Turksta
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a dog said:
Turksta said:
Jokku23 said:
blood dyes and 3rd age dyes were supposed to be rare to begin with, while partyhats were supposed to be fun holiday items everyone could enjoy!
Exactly.
People who use the "But i will lose billions of money" are ignoring the problem and using their selfish/greedy personal reasons to "reason" with why they don't want these items returned.


The reason of "I will lose billions" is a much more sound argument in the present day than "partyhats were supposed to be fun holiday items everyone could enjoy". I would say its irrelevant what they were intended to be. Rares are a type of item. Jagex has even created more of them themselves such as the black santa and Christmas scythe.
The "I will lose billions" is not even a valid argument though and completely ignores the problems that have been brought up. Speaking of the black santa and christmas scythe; do you remember when they said they will stop releasing tradeable holiday items - Because players such as partyhat owners can make bank off them. Yeah they went back on their word why exactly? to make a quick buck off releasing black santas and newer "rares". So we know their intentions is not to encourage these types of ingame behaviour, but to make money - something they will get a lot if they were to rerelease partyhats. The "I will lose billions" argument doesn't benefit anyone in anyway. So in my opinion the side that i take is a "much more" beneficial side.

19-Jul-2017 12:26:27 - Last edited on 19-Jul-2017 12:30:26 by Turksta

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a dog said:


The speculation about R Quark isn't really an argument though. You cut down on the number of items with 13b in black santas or 13b in staffs of sliske if time were an issue.


Exactly. You buy one item and you never have to work again. Overpowered unearned gains. And when you get bored of run escape you are all the more likely to cash out on thousands of dollars IRL. Overpowered unearned gains.
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19-Jul-2017 13:45:06

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@ Jokku23

Are you talking about the story with the silver coin? I did and I have no idea how that relates to this debate.

I'm comparing prices and the hard work required to obtain it...Regardless if it's through bossing or skilling for the money. I'm not comparing discontinued or currently obtainable, only the price. After all that's why this thread was started correct? Current price on rares is absurd so you want them to come back. Yes, they were supposed to be fun but that was abused so they stopped and they turned into discontinued items / rares. It is what it is. If you want to use the "partyhats were supposed to be fun holiday items everyone could enjoy!" then you were around when Santa hats were 200k and partyhat sets were less than 10m. If you didn't invest then that's your fault.

@ Turksta

You can call it greed but when I spent over a year and countless late nights grinding for what I rightfully worked up to just to see people want them released because they want to play dress up, then yes I have a problem with it. Just because you own a rare and want them released doesn't mean the rare owners who disagree with you are greedy.
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19-Jul-2017 16:22:45 - Last edited on 19-Jul-2017 17:10:17 by D E L A Y

Jokku23

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D E L A Y said:
@ Jokku23

Are you talking about the story with the silver coin? I did and I have no idea how that relates to this debate.

The post below it explains that. Cheers!

D E L A Y said:
I'm comparing prices and the hard work required to obtain it...Regardless if it's through bossing or skilling for the money. I'm not comparing discontinued or currently obtainable, only the price. After all that's why this thread was started correct? Current price on rares is absurd so you want them to come back. Yes, they were supposed to be fun but that was abused so they stopped and they turned into a discontinued items / rares. It is what it is. If you want to use the "partyhats were supposed to be fun holiday items everyone could enjoy!" then you were around when Santa hats were 200k and partyhat sets were less than 10m. If you didn't invest then that's your fault.

D E L A Y said:
If you didn't invest then that's your fault.

D E L A Y said:
invest

Invest?????????????????? I play the game for fun, not to gain wealth! Partyhats were supposed to be fun!
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19-Jul-2017 16:42:55

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