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Jokku23

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MightyMior said:
so spending 1-2 months = your first phat guaranteed. so dont say its not possible, this is a game.. anything you want you can achieve with a Little determination.


Shunyung said:
Just as Mightymior has said, party hats aren't impossible to obtain.

There are not even enough partyhats in game for all the players. This means it is impossible for some players to obtain a partyhat.
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22-Mar-2017 19:44:49

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Nick Nak said:
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25-Mar-2017 17:37:59

Hasitor
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To the person who said partyhats are nearly impossible to obtain other than rwt that is a lie. I had only 250m a year or so ago and rather then spending it all upgrading a skill I decided to learn merchanting exclusively through the ge. With 250m I was able to make roughly 70m a week by merchanting and once I finally reached the 1b mark ~2 months later things got a lot easier in that I averaged 100-200m a week. By 3b+ the most players can make a month is roughly 1b by merchanting unless you are on all the time.

If anyone wants to get a partyhat in a years time save up 250m ingame and then learn to merch, stop trying to shortcut things with this nonsense taking away value and hardwork that other players like myself have put in. The hardest part is getting that 250m. Don't flip low value items like cowhides and stuff, learn to flip moderate to high value items with decent margins that take a good amount of time to both buy and sell. The ge is filled with opportunities but people are shortsighted.

27-Mar-2017 18:03:47 - Last edited on 27-Mar-2017 18:08:47 by Hasitor

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Hasitor said:
To the person who said partyhats are nearly impossible to obtain other than rwt that is a lie. I had only 250m a year or so ago and rather then spending it all upgrading a skill I decided to learn merchanting exclusively through the ge. With 250m I was able to make roughly 70m a week by merchanting and once I finally reached the 1b mark ~2 months later things got a lot easier in that I averaged 100-200m a week. By 3b+ the most players can make a month is roughly 1b by merchanting unless you are on all the time.

If anyone wants to get a partyhat in a years time save up 250m ingame and then learn to merch, stop trying to shortcut things with this nonsense taking away value and hardwork that other players like myself have put in. The hardest part is getting that 250m.

The GE doesn't magically spawn money. If you are making money with the GE, it means someone else is losing money! If everyone tried to merch, it would not work! So the rich are just getting richer. Not cool!
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27-Mar-2017 18:34:10

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^I don't think you know what merchanting is if that's your thought process.....If you are making money through the ge it means you are simply buying items for low and selling them high. People like to instantly sell and instantly buy on the ge and you're taking advantage of this impatience. To those everyday players that just what to get their order done fast they are willing to pay higher/lower to trade off the time taken for the order to complete.


And to reply to the rest of what you said, of course if everyone was merchanting it wouldn't work, that's why merchanting exists in the first place....Not everyone wants to merch and not everyone wants to have a partyhat.

You're making assumptions that don't even apply to the argument, who said everyone wants to merch? Only you said this pal.

If you're going to counter my argument at least stay on topic on what I said instead of making statements that don't make any sense at all. I replied to your post on you saying rwt trading is the only way to get a party hat but my post proves what you said is false because i'm a walking example of it.

Lastly, I literally just explained how to get rich though the ge so the notion of "the rich keep getting richer" doesn't apply here. You can get rich through the ge starting from 250m and obviously the more money you have to invest the more you can make just like in real life.

27-Mar-2017 18:50:37 - Last edited on 27-Mar-2017 19:01:04 by Hasitor

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Hasitor said:
^I don't think you know what merchanting is if that's your thought process.....If you are making money through the ge it means you are simply buying items for low and selling them high. People like to instantly sell and instantly buy on the ge and you're taking advantage of this impatience. To those everyday players that just what to get their order done fast they are willing to pay higher/lower to trade off the time taken for the order to complete.

I know this. This doesn't refute my argument that GE doesn't spawn money. If you are making money with the GE, it means someone else is losing money!

Hasitor said:
And to reply to the rest of what you said, of course if everyone was merchanting it wouldn't work, that's why merchanting exists in the first place....Not everyone wants to merch and not everyone wants to have a partyhat.

You're making assumptions that don't even apply to the argument, who said everyone wants to merch? Only you said this pal.

If you're going to counter my argument at least stay on topic on what I said instead of making statements that don't make any sense at all. I replied to your post on you saying rwt trading is the only way to get a party hat but my post proves what you said is false because i'm a walking example of it.

Okay, where did I say RWT is the only way? Only you said this pal. If you're going to counter my argument at least stay on topic on what I said instead of making statements that don't make any sense at all.

Hasitor said:
Lastly, I literally just explained how to get rich though the ge so the notion of "the rich keep getting richer" doesn't apply here. You can get rich through the ge starting from 250m and obviously the more money you have to invest the more you can make just like in real life.

250m is rich already!
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27-Mar-2017 19:41:44

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Hasitor said:
By 3b+ the most players can make a month is roughly 1b by merchanting unless you are on all the time.
According to that most players of 3+wealth might only hope to realize 233,333,333 per week
(1,000,000,000 / 30 days) x 7 days = 233,333,333 per week

However, it is not enough to catch up to the compounded escalation of prices. Consider the blue party hat for example, here is the data from ~Discontinued Item Status V41~ Quick find code: 17-18-909-65888400 Original message details are unavailable.
[item status: blue partyhat] ... 11000-11700 million
[06-Mar-2017 19:58:23 by Popfrog9]
Original message details are unavailable.
[item status: blue partyhat] ... 12300-13000 million
[26-Mar-2017 21:15:18 by Popfrog9]
The approximate price increase is about 11.818%
((12300-11000)/11000) x 100% = 11.818 %

If all things remain the same, the next 20 days will see an increase of 1,376,797,000
((11000+12300)/2) previous low end mid price x (12300-11000)/11000) rate of increase
= 1376 million or 1,376,797,000

Which means that one would have to earn over (1,376,797,000 / 20 days) x 7 days = 481,878,950 per week just to keep up with the increases.

These calculations show that the price increases already surpass what most players of might only hope to realize, which is approximately 233,333,333 per week.

Combined with decreasing supply of such items lost to banned accounts, hoarders etc., there already does not appear to be enough supply for all to have fun and enjoy.

So the supply should be increased = fun !

Therefore, this thread is worth supporting because of the triple win as mentioned by the OP and also because games and economics both thrive on robust market competition. :D
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27-Mar-2017 20:14:01 - Last edited on 27-Mar-2017 22:14:00 by Kalea Sprite

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@Kalea
Don't get discouraged on the sudden rise of partyhat prices please refer to the thread on reddit "partyhats_reaching_record_prices"

Basically a large merchanting clan is pumping up the prices so expect a big dump in prices soon.

Partyhats are actually really stable in prices and go up on average maybe 500m-1b a year at most(blue phat was 8.5-9.5b for ~2 years). Like I said there is a certain plateau you hit when you reach 3b+ of how much you can make on the ge a month BUT you can easily make 2-4b+ if you start flipping outside of the ge on items that are above max cash. If your like me and only have 40min-1hour to play most days then you can flip through the ge and make an average of 1b-1.7b a month doing inactive flips HOWEVER -When I was more active and playing the game 2.5b-4b a month is VERY doable since you can check flips more often. Go on the merchz website to see the logs of what people are flipping to give you a sense of what you should flip for good gains.

I'd like to say this though, partyhats are a cosmetic item and offer no bonuses to players. The only reason why I wanted one and many other players want a partyhat is because of their rarity and looks(emphasis on the rarity). Having them obtainable through treasure hunter simply means you are RWT through jagex now and the prestige of these COSMETIC items will go down as more will be in circulation (more = less rarity). Lets be real, if these hats were released every christmas since 2001 nobody would be wearing them....


Jokku23 said:

250m is rich already!


If you think 250m is rich you have no right to even start a thread like this.....You are most likely a poor player not willing to put the effort in trying to learn merchanting / pvming to work up towards a partyhat. No wonder you want a partyhat so badly, your networth is probably really low.

28-Mar-2017 17:32:03 - Last edited on 28-Mar-2017 18:11:14 by Hasitor

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Jokku23 said:

I know this. This doesn't refute my argument that GE doesn't spawn money. If you are making money with the GE, it means someone else is losing money!


Yes of course! You are making money that people are WILLING to lose for the cost of convenience. Now I guess your going to say merchanting is evil or something? Lol :D

Jokku23 said:

There are not even enough partyhats in game for all the players. This means it is impossible for some players to obtain a partyhat.


Yes of course there are not enough partyhats ingame for all players! Thats the whole point, Its a rare item! Thats what being a rare item means lol. I have a mvp rookie kobe bryant card and its rare because not everyone in the world has it. Your arguments are so adorable and really indicate your age irl lol.

28-Mar-2017 17:55:02 - Last edited on 28-Mar-2017 18:07:02 by Hasitor

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