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Dilbert2001

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scousy said:
eMaG dNiM said:
Lopendebank3 said:
Blackwing isnt toxic, if anything he is right.


Constantly bashing a 20 year old game that has more content than 99% of the games out there? I 100% guarantee Runescape would not be up and running without mtx. He/she has almost nothing nice to say about the game or its creators, when he/she plays more than most of us here. Word of mouth is huge, and people like blackwing are a huge reason why Runescape is not as populated as it should be, RS3 is a great game, MTX is what keeps both Oldschool and RS3 running.Butthurt people like blackwing are just creating roadblocks to new people enjoying the game.

"MTX blah blah blah, this game sucks but i still have 2bil + xp."

such a loser.
1 person posting on forums isn't going to make new players not join. If they don't join then it means they don't like it.


But 4 mil of them new players joined within 6 months last year and a big share of them came from the Twitch Prime promotion with Umbral Chest, TH keys among plenty of MTX goodies.

If they join then it means they like it. :)

11-Jul-2019 02:30:48

Dilbert2001

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Teutotes said:
Dilbert2001 said:
scousy said:
eMaG dNiM said:
Lopendebank3 said:
Blackwing isnt toxic, if anything he is right.


Constantly bashing a 20 year old game that has more content than 99% of the games out there? I 100% guarantee Runescape would not be up and running without mtx. He/she has almost nothing nice to say about the game or its creators, when he/she plays more than most of us here. Word of mouth is huge, and people like blackwing are a huge reason why Runescape is not as populated as it should be, RS3 is a great game, MTX is what keeps both Oldschool and RS3 running.Butthurt people like blackwing are just creating roadblocks to new people enjoying the game.

"MTX blah blah blah, this game sucks but i still have 2bil + xp."

such a loser.
1 person posting on forums isn't going to make new players not join. If they don't join then it means they don't like it.


But 4 mil of them new players joined within 6 months last year and a big share of them came from the Twitch Prime promotion with Umbral Chest, TH keys among plenty of MTX goodies.

If they join then it means they like it. :)


If that's true the worlds should be full of players at any time. But we don't see it. I haven't seen genuinely new player a long time, just someone alts. Where are they then?


I don't think Jagex cares if you see these players. Modern players have real world things to do and have only 30 - 60 minutes a day to play games. I don't think Jagex cares if they log on 8 hours a days like bots. They only care and good for them, see, the record numbers of PAID members and the £25 mil they paid solely for TH and RC.

If they are not happy, why did they pay for membership and MTX? :)

11-Jul-2019 17:52:15 - Last edited on 11-Jul-2019 18:08:38 by Dilbert2001

Dilbert2001

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Teutotes said:
Dilbert2001 said:
I don't think Jagex cares if you see these players. Modern players have real world things to do and has only 30 - 60 minutes a day to play games. I don't think Jagex cares if they logs on 8 hours a days like bots. They only care and good for them, see, the record numbers of PAID members and the £25 mil they paid solely for TH and RC.)


Okay then, they joined, paid and vanished to thin air. There has been no increase in player count. 4 million new players would have been huge impact to it whether they play 30 minutes or 60 minutes a day. We would have seen minimum 150K players online in any given time.


They did not vanished to thin air. They are ACTIVE UNIQUE playes as reported by Jagex. They probably just spend less time in the game. Note that FIFA players show up even less in the game as they never have more than 1.5 mil concurrent users but an active player base of 145 mil. Jagex still logs over 1% in concurrent users/active users. It is still higher than FIFA's ratio.

Besides, if they join and happily pay money, Jagex is happy too regardless if they stay in the game for 30 minutes or 8 hours a day. What's the problem? Don't tell me they are not happy but still pay real money. :D

11-Jul-2019 18:22:44

Dilbert2001

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Teutotes said:
Dilbert2001 said:
Besides, if they join and happily pay money, Jagex is happy too regardless if they stay in the game for 30 minutes or 8 hours a day. What's the problem?


My problem with this is that they don't seem to play even 30 minutes a day, they don't seem to play at all. I repeat: IF 4 million new users has joined last year in 6 months as you claim, it would have impacted the player count significantly.

It doesn't matter whether they play 30 minutes a day or even once a week. It would have been noticeable nevertheless. But there was no change in player count whatsoever.

Something just doesn't add up.


Who care if they don't play "even 30 minutes a day" or play 16-24 hours a day like bots?

Do you have a problem when other people pay but don't play often? Do you have a problem that their $$$ numbers are adding up? Even if do have a problem, too bad, it is the money they made. It is the money they made from the players, including the 4 millions new ones they added within 6 months last year, who happily paid them. :D

11-Jul-2019 19:54:07

Dilbert2001

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ELITE STACK said:
Teutotes said:
Dilbert2001 said:
Besides, if they join and happily pay money, Jagex is happy too regardless if they stay in the game for 30 minutes or 8 hours a day. What's the problem?


My problem with this is that they don't seem to play even 30 minutes a day, they don't seem to play at all. I repeat: IF 4 million new users has joined last year in 6 months as you claim, it would have impacted the player count significantly.

It doesn't matter whether they play 30 minutes a day or even once a week. It would have been noticeable nevertheless. But there was no change in player count whatsoever.

Something just doesn't add up.



The 4-8m users stat is just the number of accounts created within the last year. This includes for rs3 and osrs. People make a bunch of alts + the bots in game count toward the number of players. It's the same thing as the homepage saying 272m total accounts created. Those accounts include every single account including banned accounts + alts. To be clear, It doesen't matter what stat they use Since banned accounts count toward those numbers too.


No. 8.0171 mil ACTIVE Players means players logged in continuously. Total users (not specifically logged in continuously) was 8.2858 mil at the end of the 1st quarter of 2019.

http://file.finance.sina.com.cn/211.154.219.97:9494/MRGG/CNSESH_STOCK/2019/2019-6/2019-06-15/5437523.PDF

11-Jul-2019 23:23:01

Dilbert2001

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ELITE STACK said:
And continuously means what 2 days in a row? Bots can do that. Runescore hiscores which only requires 500 runescore to be eligible has less then 800k players. Just because people have tons of alts with 36 total level doesen't mean they are active players.


Active players don't have to do Runescores. Jagex never put Runescores or any other in game content in their defintion of ACTIVE PLAYERS.

Jagex also stated 1.08 mil paid members too. Nobody said anything about Runescores or hiscores requirements.

You can also say the same about the total playerbase concurrent players too. They don't have to have any in game content requirement to be declare active.

When they pay to buy a membership or a TH key, obviously they are happy and Jagex is happy. Even if they don't pay, there are still happy to just login. Why will some people force themselves not to log in if they are not happy?

11-Jul-2019 23:50:04

Dilbert2001

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Teutotes said:
ELITE STACK said:
And continuously means what 2 days in a row? Bots can do that. Runescore hiscores which only requires 500 runescore to be eligible has less then 800k players. Just because people have tons of alts with 36 total level doesen't mean they are active players.


Let him believe his little fairy tales about millions of people who just donate money to Jagex and rarely (or never) play. Arguing with him is like arguing with a brick wall.


So? If they are happy just to log in they are good to Jagex. If they pay Jagex to log in or even don't log in, they are certainly happy to pay to make Jagex happy too.

Why should Jagex argue with happy players who log in and happy payers who help them to break revenue and profits records years after years, instead of brick walls who keep self-denying about Jagex's success. :D

11-Jul-2019 23:52:46

Dilbert2001

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Silvery Lynx said:
Gray Mouser said:
Little issue with Dusk lanterns.

It gives bonus if you pick for one of your top 5 skills, it does not discount any 200M xp skills.

Effectively I am forced to convert them to Dawn lanterns to benefit.


This is true. Since I have 7 skills at 200M, I lose out on this. Maxed skills IMO should be excluded.


No. That's why they have oddments cash out. You have a choice to cash out anything for oddments, including lamps that add to your 200M skills already.

12-Jul-2019 16:30:07

Dilbert2001

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Oulfberhot said:
Dilbert2001 said:
Silvery Lynx said:
Gray Mouser said:
Little issue with Dusk lanterns.

It gives bonus if you pick for one of your top 5 skills, it does not discount any 200M xp skills.

Effectively I am forced to convert them to Dawn lanterns to benefit.


This is true. Since I have 7 skills at 200M, I lose out on this. Maxed skills IMO should be excluded.


No. That's why they have oddments cash out. You have a choice to cash out anything for oddments, including lamps that add to your 200M skills already.

Oddment conversion rates make this a really bad choice, unless you're more than willing to take the hit on conversion. Advanced Pulse Cores are 2 for 150 Oddments, and the most you get is 100 Oddments for any one conversion. Throw in that the most common conversions are a mere 10 Oddments, and it gets worse, not better.


It is not just about the oddments conversion rate is low or high. The fact is it is BONUS option.

To the same person who has 200 mil xp in whatever skill, say Dungeoneering, there is no more xp to be gained whatever in the game regardless if it is from TH or not. That player can still do sinkholes or other activities that give DG xp. Why don't that 200 mil DG xp player complain about not being to get anymore xp from Sinkholes or other DG activities? Because he can't. That's how the game is designed. Alternatively, Sinkholes among other activities also give non-DG xp/rewards. It is up to that 200 mil DG xp player to do sinkholes/DG or switch to something else.

Complaining about not getting anything other than oddments after hitting the 200 mil xp cap is like complaining about not getting more xp from DG activities after hitting the 200 mil cap. At least, TH gives those 200 mil xp players oddments.

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