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shokaku12
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I really think this classifies as scamming. And I thought I might share this here.

This is an evolution to the luring scams early in the days where unsuspecting newbs were lured into the wilderness for promises of gold and special armour etc.

I see this scams happening at the Edgeville Dungeon wilderness and near the Chaos Altar in the Wilderness. Said scammers would approach you, begging for you to attack them for all sorts of reasons such as to see a new emote or need to find out what is happening etc.

You might think that because you are at a certain wilderness level, so you wont be able to attack them, and they wont be able to attack you.

But NEVER EVER attack them! Because those scammers are carrying the cursed wisps in their inventory. Therefore, ANY player, regardless of what combat level, is able to attack them. Its fine if you dont lose anything, but it is not for those whom are vulnerable like those questing and runecrafting. Or training at the Earth Warriors at Edgeville for your mage equipment.

Hence, be warned and stay safe in the Wilderness and don't fall for such scams.

13-Jun-2019 21:13:52 - Last edited on 13-Jun-2019 21:15:50 by shokaku12

Moneybucks
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They'll soon learn.
Entering the wilderness in any situation gives a big fat warning on the screen that needs to be acknowledged before you can progress.

While tricking people into skulling is something I'll always be opposed to (and I'm opposed to the skull system simply because it can be used to trick people into thinking they're not taking risks that they actually are), people ignoring the warning and then going on to attack others just because they've been asked to are their own worst enemy, and have ignored all the warnings up to that point. It's almost entirely on them in this case, I think.
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14-Jun-2019 09:41:51 - Last edited on 14-Jun-2019 09:42:16 by Moneybucks

shokaku12
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Moneybucks said:
They'll soon learn.
Entering the wilderness in any situation gives a big fat warning on the screen that needs to be acknowledged before you can progress.

While tricking people into skulling is something I'll always be opposed to (and I'm opposed to the skull system simply because it can be used to trick people into thinking they're not taking risks that they actually are), people ignoring the warning and then going on to attack others just because they've been asked to are their own worst enemy, and have ignored all the warnings up to that point. It's almost entirely on them in this case, I think.


Look. There are people whom returned to the game and are unfamiliar with the cursed wisps causing the person to be able to fight everyone.

Besides, there was once I got skulled when I accidentally clicked to attack someone at the Wilderness Agility course when I wanted to jump an obstacle. I quickly backed off the attack, and didn't hit the player at all, but I still got that stupid skull. So I believe there is really a need to improve the skulling system at the same time. Like getting that skull when you actually hit someone. Not accidentally click, and then back off, and not attacking the player, but end up getting the skull.

14-Jun-2019 10:49:36

Moneybucks
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Did you miss the part where I said that going into the Wilderness gives a big warning that you're risking your items? There's no excuse for going into the Wilderness and not understanding that it is a dangerous PvP area and anything you bring can potentially be lost. Insofar as wisps, it tells you the moment you touch one, I think before you even collect from it, so again, no excuse. There do need to be adequate protections for players, but you can only go so far to mitigate ignorance and stupidity. I'm happy with where the line is, as it makes clear what players ought to be aware of (though I'm not happy with the skull system in general).

I can agree with the skull being applied when you try to attack someone though. I've misclicked before and done it before I wanted to. I seem to recall it working the opposite some time ago, where the skull was applied when the aggressive action was actually made, rather than input. Not sure why/when it changed though.
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14-Jun-2019 11:56:48 - Last edited on 14-Jun-2019 11:57:10 by Moneybucks

shokaku12
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Moneybucks said:
Did you miss the part where I said that going into the Wilderness gives a big warning that you're risking your items? There's no excuse for going into the Wilderness and not understanding that it is a dangerous PvP area and anything you bring can potentially be lost. Insofar as wisps, it tells you the moment you touch one, I think before you even collect from it, so again, no excuse. There do need to be adequate protections for players, but you can only go so far to mitigate ignorance and stupidity. I'm happy with where the line is, as it makes clear what players ought to be aware of (though I'm not happy with the skull system in general).

I can agree with the skull being applied when you try to attack someone though. I've misclicked before and done it before I wanted to. I seem to recall it working the opposite some time ago, where the skull was applied when the aggressive action was actually made, rather than input. Not sure why/when it changed though.


Not like there is a choice not to go to the Wilderness at all. Some do need to be there in order to complete quests / runecrafting.

And did you miss the part about returning players who havent played for YEARS who doesn't know that these wisps exists and what they do? They might be used to the fact that you can't attack somebody outside the wilderness level you are in. So they are not aware of the fact those skull trickers are actually carrying those wisps.

I do miss the days when Wilderness was completely devoid of Pk-ing back in 2011. Could run around safely to do errands without the fear of being attacked. I hate Pk-ing anyways.

14-Jun-2019 12:15:42

Moneybucks
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New or returning players get the warning just as much as old players, assuming they haven't toggled it off, which is their choice to make, but they still need to have acknowledged it in order to do so. There is no way to enter the Wilderness without a warning. It's the same with wisps; you get a warning, I think before you've even harvested them (i.e. before you take the risk). Your point is moot; it is not possible to enter the Wilderness without acknowledging the risks of doing so.

For that matter, I don't think you do need to enter any more. I may be wrong about this, but I think all 'Wilderness' quests take place in safe instanced areas. At least it's that way with Spirit of Summer, Defender of Varrock and that one with the Dragonkin. As for skilling locations, nobody needs to enter to benefit from a high yield skilling location - that's their choice to make. You can do it all in safe areas as well, without those risks.

Quite frankly, your issue isn't with skull tricks or whatever. In reality, you're just a player that wants high yield resources and doesn't like that they do so at risk of being attacked and having them taken.

But the Wilderness is not for people like you. Other than as fodder for people like me who do sometimes venture in to steal your stuff you can't defend. Even then, most people just go in their pants and take nothing, which is a valid option.

Incidentally, it's why I dislike skulls. It means people like you have some justification to the idea that it's unfair to be attacked and lose their items. It's far less ambiguous if the rule is that you take it and you risk it.
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14-Jun-2019 12:39:34 - Last edited on 14-Jun-2019 12:41:02 by Moneybucks

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