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Fat Man69a
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with recent update to comp cape, jagex mentions they dont want to force people to do group activities to be able to get most out of the game

mentioning removing reaper crew sounded like a great idea and it was, if it was only the reaper crew achievment for comp cape removed, and also noticing there is still forced group gameplay for trim aswell

how much of a difference does the 12str in all and 20+ armour make to ur dps and or armour, mainly this is regarding dps,

so basicly atm, just to have the best possible dps u can get ingame, u are still forced to do group gameplay from those stats being linked to reaper achievment and u make the comp cape more or less a lvl 120 cape for max cape, just a fancy trim cape with no extra benefits,

atm people dont even need a comp cape cause the perks u add to max cape make that cape and kiln capes best capes needed at anytime, while comp cape now is fashionscape and so is trim comp

SO NOW COMP AND TRIM, NO JUST TRIM, IS FASHIONSCAPE NOW

can anyone enlighten me on how much of a difference the 12 str bonus u get from reaper crew makes a difference in dps when your already using best gear ingame??????????????

i personaly do not group boss, and i definitely aint gonna group boss just for those stats as i wouldnt do it for them before or the cape

how did the reaper crew happen to gain those stats, when the comp cape was released with those stats before reaper even existed

wasnt comp cape released like 10yrs before reaper?

was all exciting to hear reaper being removed from comp req just to find out later we all go screwed anyway cause now after all those achievments, the cape is useless, just cause you dont want to be forced to group boss,

even having to maul rago and do rots achievment is still on trim wich is being forced to group boss still even then again

for now a useless cape, wait, 2 useless capes comp and trim, who needs em, we got max cape and kiln capes, hardest capes to get are useless
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27-Jun-2019 20:07:22 - Last edited on 27-Jun-2019 20:23:09 by Fat Man69a

Foxxie
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If you don't boss, you really don't need the stats.

"But what about things like Telos?"

Well if you're at the level where you can fight telos, you can get Reaper Crew. Just saying.

27-Jun-2019 21:34:03

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Well the combat team are
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which is probably why you can't have an ability tab in legacy but they just dgaf do they.

27-Jun-2019 21:40:28 - Last edited on 27-Jun-2019 23:53:06 by Pluscious

Steelweaver
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Fat Man69a said:
SO NOW COMP AND TRIM, NO JUST TRIM, IS FASHIONSCAPE NOW


Just as they should be?


Sorry, but something that requires completionism (in the appropriate definition defined for any situation provided henceforth as counter to the idea that the aforementioned capes also) should show off and represent your personal successes without providing a tangible bonus within the game.

While I can certainly agree that the current situation of the Comp "Rework" as presented by the developers is hardly ideal (as I wholeheartedly backed the first public iteration of the rework), it is certainly a step in the right direction.

Completionism should be done for ones own personal achievement in that field, never because "OH better stats".


EDIT: To paraphrase something said on the official Discord channel for the Completionist Cape Rework, it shouldn't be asked "why shouldn't the hardest item to obtain have the best stats" but instead what should be asked is "why should you have to obtain comp for the BiS cape"

EDIT2: To add on...

Why should BiS be reserved to one item?
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27-Jun-2019 22:55:33 - Last edited on 27-Jun-2019 23:00:23 by Steelweaver

Draco Burnz
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Steelweaver said:


Just as they should be?


Sorry, but something that requires completionism (in the appropriate definition defined for any situation provided henceforth as counter to the idea that the aforementioned capes also) should show off and represent your personal successes without providing a tangible bonus within the game.

While I can certainly agree that the current situation of the Comp "Rework" as presented by the developers is hardly ideal (as I wholeheartedly backed the first public iteration of the rework), it is certainly a step in the right direction.

Completionism should be done for ones own personal achievement in that field, never because "OH better stats".


EDIT: To paraphrase something said on the official Discord channel for the Completionist Cape Rework, it shouldn't be asked "why shouldn't the hardest item to obtain have the best stats" but instead what should be asked is "why should you have to obtain comp for the BiS cape"

EDIT2: To add on...

Why should BiS be reserved to one item?


Couldnt agree more.

Well said.
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27-Jun-2019 23:35:18

Prime Axiom
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Let's be real for a second here. If you are close to having the "Best DPS" possible in the game, then you wouldn't be having this complaint. People who can achieve near perfect DPS rotations in solo PVM situations tend not to struggle on group bosses. In fact, people would likely be begging you to carry teams, and you would Chad your way into getting whatever you want. Really, the +12 bonus isn't going to make as much of a difference as actually learning a proper rotation.

So what this really boils down to is maxed player who is probably putting out bad DPS complaining about not being able to get BIS equipment. Change my mind.

28-Jun-2019 17:21:07 - Last edited on 28-Jun-2019 17:22:25 by Prime Axiom

Vaseth
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Prime Axiom said:
Let's be real for a second here. If you are close to having the "Best DPS" possible in the game, then you wouldn't be having this complaint. People who can achieve near perfect DPS rotations in solo PVM situations tend not to struggle on group bosses. In fact, people would likely be begging you to carry teams, and you would Chad your way into getting whatever you want. Really, the +12 bonus isn't going to make as much of a difference as actually learning a proper rotation.

So what this really boils down to is maxed player who is probably putting out bad DPS complaining about not being able to get BIS equipment. Change my mind.


your obviouly not aware of the current "no waste" mentality that pervades this game

people want you to have perfect dps rotation AND best gear

its not about being able to kill the boss, its about being able to do so as fast as possible, for personal records, efficiency, and a sense of self entitled elitism lol

if that dosnt change your mind, oh well, never mind, im far too experienced in life to believe i can change the mind of ever fool i meet regardless of logic evidence and facts lol

28-Jun-2019 21:16:38

Prime Axiom
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Vaseth said:
Prime Axiom said:
Let's be real for a second here. If you are close to having the "Best DPS" possible in the game, then you wouldn't be having this complaint. People who can achieve near perfect DPS rotations in solo PVM situations tend not to struggle on group bosses. In fact, people would likely be begging you to carry teams, and you would Chad your way into getting whatever you want. Really, the +12 bonus isn't going to make as much of a difference as actually learning a proper rotation.

So what this really boils down to is maxed player who is probably putting out bad DPS complaining about not being able to get BIS equipment. Change my mind.


your obviouly not aware of the current "no waste" mentality that pervades this game

people want you to have perfect dps rotation AND best gear

its not about being able to kill the boss, its about being able to do so as fast as possible, for personal records, efficiency, and a sense of self entitled elitism lol

if that dosnt change your mind, oh well, never mind, im far too experienced in life to believe i can change the mind of ever fool i meet regardless of logic evidence and facts lol


I am well aware of it, and not only that, I fully endorse it. You should have a perfect DPS rotation and have the best gear possible. It's not too much to ask for fast, efficient kills. That should be the bare minimum at any boss.

All I'm saying is that If group bosses are locking you out of content, despite most of them being glorified DPS dummies compared to a lot of the solo bosses, then that +12 probably isn't going to make your DPS anywhere close to "best" anyways.

28-Jun-2019 21:50:40 - Last edited on 28-Jun-2019 21:57:05 by Prime Axiom

UrekMazino
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Aahahaha, after the nerf to comp reqs, someone actually has the audacity to complain that the stats are now locked behind reaper crew.

Didn't you read any of the dev blog and discussion? The whole point of the rework was to move the bossing req out of comp to make the cape a cosmetic upgrade from max. That was the whole point!! And you're complaining about it!

Comp should've been cosmetic only from the start, but everyone got used to extra stats. Its late, but its the right move.
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