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cooke fletch

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In the forum, the fmods get upset when there are arguments about pker vs skiller vs bossers. Why do they lock threads when jagex is the one that decided to pit us against each other? This is not questioning the fmods, they are only following their guidelines. What this is questions is why did the jmods decide to make the game strictly combat?

The jmods created a class system in the game and have reinforced it multiple times. If your not an elite, you cant play their game.

For over a decade, they had a successful formula. Everyone was ENCOURAGED to play the game the way they wanted. When Gerhard took over, he decided to make the game all about the pkers. He was a hard core pker and he wanted the game to be a pker paradise. He destroyed rs3 doing so.

When osrs came out, it was to try to bring people back and show them how hard the game was before his "genius" remaking of the game. Osrs was not expected to be more than a rsc2. They figured it would being a lot of people back to rs3 when we found the game to be too hard. They figured it would have no more than 50k people after a short time.

But it failed to do so, and that cost Gerhard his position.

When osrs came out, everyone found they like the "hardness" of the game. Sure a few things to make the game a little easier have passed, but the game still had the hardness of the original until 2016. IF you wanted to succeed, you still had to do the grind. As we used to say, if you cant do the grind, don't do the time.

But then to punish us for not bowing to pkers as the owners of the game, as our masters and owners, they destroyed the economy. Now you have no need to do the grind any more, only pvm for a short time or pk the pvmers.

And the game is dying. There was a spike as people came back to play on mobile. The found the game was not the same as it was in the old days and left.

Since 2016, despite the spike, the game has lost 50% of its player base and its still bleeding.
Stop being a entitled snowflake. If you want something in game, earn it rather than demand it be given to you.

18-Sep-2019 01:50:45

cooke fletch

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So I just ask, why did they decide to pit us against each other.

In an early poll that has been hidden or removed, they had 3 options, skiller
pure
, monster killer or player killer. Since anyone that did slayer was not a killer pure (i.e. non combat), they had to choose to be a monster killer. The vast majority of players were actually true skillers, not pure skillers or pure monster killers.

So why is it jagex decided they did not want true skillers in the game? Why did they decide skiller pures were not worth their time?

Why did they decide to ruin the game for the majority of players, as shown by the fact we are leaving in droves.
Stop being a entitled snowflake. If you want something in game, earn it rather than demand it be given to you.

18-Sep-2019 01:55:38 - Last edited on 18-Sep-2019 01:56:06 by cooke fletch

cooke fletch

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ONLY if your a high level monster killers first.

In order to do the minigame, you have to be able to take out the one of the highest level mobsters in the game. This means that skiller pures can not do it. The majority of skillers are not near maximum levels needed to be able to do it.
Stop being a entitled snowflake. If you want something in game, earn it rather than demand it be given to you.

18-Sep-2019 02:19:29 - Last edited on 18-Sep-2019 02:24:02 by cooke fletch

VasaTekVesp
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Jagex didn't do it. The community did. Skillers don't care about the health of the wilderness. Neither do PvMers. PvMers, in turn, don't care about the state of skilling. PKers got tired of the selfishness and realized that they needed to be selfish too.

Also, the majority never played the game for skilling. The majority played to PK back then and now play to PvM. Skillers have never been a majority in any form. They exist for the sake of existing. They don't provide anything useful to anyone. They need PKers and PvMers to buy their resources. PvMers and PKers don't need them. They can just get resources PvMing.

The difficulty of the game died the moment the GE came out. You're just crying about a problem you created. I voted for the GE as well, but I'm not gonna complain like you are. Why? Because I understand how wrong I was. I accept responsibility for my actions.

The playerbase started flourishing the moment they focused on end-game PvM. It tanked the moment they stopped that. Goes to show that PvM should take precedence over everything. When the game revolved around skilling, the game was doing pitiful. Goes to show how much it was plaguing the game.

In that early poll, it never said skiller pure.

We don't want "true skillers" in the game for the reasons I've listed. They're overly arrogant and plague this game with their attitude. They'd be better off replaced with bots. To keep resource prices under control for PvMers, Jagex could select how many bots they want to be flooding the economy with resources. The majority are PvMers and that's what the content should be focused on.
Quit bitching about the problems you created by spite voting.

18-Sep-2019 02:58:25

VasaTekVesp
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cooke fletch said:
ONLY if your a high level monster killers first.

In order to do the minigame, you have to be able to take out the one of the highest level mobsters in the game. This means that skiller pures can not do it. The majority of skillers are not near maximum levels needed to be able to do it.


You just need to not be a skiller pure. It's extremely unskilled. You skiller pures limit yourselves. If lvl 1 defense pures can't go back to Ape Atoll, then you skiller pures can't access Zalcano. In other words, stop being a entitled snowflake. If you want something in game, earn it rather than demand it be given to you.
Quit bitching about the problems you created by spite voting.

18-Sep-2019 02:59:22

Lu k e
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What do you classify as skiller pure? a level 3 skiller that does no combat? if so then you are the one who deiced to limit yourself and yes Jagex shouldnt cater to limited accounts.

Song of the elves quest isnt even hard, most boss fights are pretty much afkable, and the end boss all you need to do is just have a trident thats 1m, and any mage gear will work and some brews.
Low levels have done this with no problem, so you really have no excuse.

You claim that Jagex ruined the game for the "majority" of the player base when that is just down right false, you guys are not the majority, never have been, Jagex caters to the majority.
As for people leaving in droves.. only reason the counter is down is many have gone to WoW classic as its been hyped for years and finally out, give it time they will be back, and even then.. we still reach 100k + people online.

And again you have no evidence of the game dying.

As your profile says
"Stop being a entitled snowflake. If you want something in game, earn it rather than demand it be given to you"

18-Sep-2019 04:53:53

cooke fletch

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VasaTekVesp said:
Jagex didn't do it. The community did.
The community did not create the polls that divided non pkers into monster killers and non monster killers. In the old game, they were the same, called true skillers or just skillers for short.

After that poll, everyone started calling skiller pures, skillers and saying they were the minority, so they should not get many updates. Jmods were able to push more and more combat, esp. high level combat stuff and ignore the majority.

Pkers did not care for the health of anything outside the wild and the jmods were pkers. They saw (and still see) the game from pkers view point. "IF you cant do it in the wild it isn't worth paying attention to."

So now, a non combat pure, i.e. someone that does ONLY combat, can not make enough money to buy bonds. It takes 60 to 80 hours to earn 14 days of game play. You know what's that's called?

A job. You don't get to choose what you want to do, you have to work at what you can just to make someone else rich.

Most people have a job outside the game, we don't need a second game inside.

So the player count continues its rapid decline and no one cares. "Its only skillers, who needs them."

Jagex needs their money. We proved that in 2012. now we are proving it again.
Stop being a entitled snowflake. If you want something in game, earn it rather than demand it be given to you.

18-Sep-2019 05:04:26

cooke fletch

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Lu k e said:
What do you classify as skiller pure? a level 3 skiller that does no combat?
Jagex has defined it as anyone that is not a combat pure. IF you do not spend hours killing mobs, (and giving a good chunk of it to player killers) according to them, you have no right to enjoy the game.

Lu k e said:
You claim that Jagex ruined the game for the "majority" of the player base when that is just down right false, you guys are not the majority, never have been, Jagex caters to the majority.
Then explain why jagex lost 50% of its player base in 2 years.

Wow classic only came out this year. Jagex started hemorrhaging players in 2016.

As to evidence, look at how many mods have left in 2 years. Also there is the graph you guys refuse to look at that shows that there was a spike when mobile came out, but since 2016 there has otherwise been a steady decline in numbers.
Stop being a entitled snowflake. If you want something in game, earn it rather than demand it be given to you.

18-Sep-2019 05:06:04 - Last edited on 18-Sep-2019 05:09:37 by cooke fletch

Lu k e
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Lu k e

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Jagex doesnt define what players do in this game, if you decide to play a skiller pure you chose to limit yourself, that isnt Jagex fault but your own.

50%? where you get that number? Would like to see proof of this, and please dont give the old excuse of "its so old i cant bring it up"

http://www.misplaceditems.com/rs_tools/graph/?display=avg&interval=qtr_yr&total=1

this graph? if so it kinda proves you wrong, if you have another graph please show.

As for the Jmods, employees come n go all the time, and from what i hear it was for better jobs doesnt mean game is dying.. lol we will get more Jmods

18-Sep-2019 05:28:10

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