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Edzter

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I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


SPOILERS AHEAD

This quest did not answer anything!!! When and how did zaros make a deal with armadyl? what is zammy gonna do on his end?? Apparently I missed a part and other people say zaros made a deal with sara too????

Then, why was vorago even there? What happened to the dragonkin? The stone of jas went boom and was never mentioned again?!

Wtf is zaros even doing anymore?? (i changed my emissary which I forgot about to godless now)

Is sliske inside us??? And will it take us another 8 months to find out what's up with that?
(Not to mention some people say he went to remonas (can't spell her name) body when we blacked out which makes me even more confused if that's true)
Why didn't nomad die in the first fight, more importantly, why didn't anybody else help?
Why was the scoreboard utterly worthless?

Why are the elder gods awake???
Why did jas' answers were so stupid?!!
Why was seren there with zaros and yet didn't say a word???
Why was sliske jas' agent in the first place?? And how the hell??
Queen of ashes??
Staff of armadyl??? Where did it come from, why was it there only at the end? (I assume the fight was for us while the cutscene was for story), but then...where is it now??? Do we have it??? Did we just leave it there???



These are the only answers I got out of the quest (they just raise another question):
1. elder gods are awake, but why?
2. The obvious answer as to what sliske did with nomad, but can we please confirm he is 100% canonically dead?
3. Sliske's master was Jas, but why?? and how???
4. Armadyl is..bi? Hey, diversity, I still like him. Good on him

I also may have missed some stuff because THAT MAZE WAS F***ING STUPID


edit: all the barrows bros are there, linza is there, where's akrisea? rotm is a requirement after all sooo...forever forgotten

20-Dec-2016 19:10:44 - Last edited on 20-Dec-2016 20:51:25 by Edzter

Lego Miester

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Edzter said:
Why did jas' answers were so stupid?!!


Because.

Edzter said:
What happened to the dragonkin?


Presumably they're free now if everyone got that same key plot point.

Edzter said:
why was vorago even there?


Vorago couldn't fit in the door. :(

Edzter said:
2. The obvious answer as to what sliske did with nomad, but can we please confirm he is 100% canonically dead?


I mean the barrows brothers are fine. If I had to guess we'll get post quest dialogue that Death tracked him down post-quest and finally got that soul. Could go either way.

Edzter said:
Is sliske inside us??? And will it take us another 8 months to find out what's up with that?


9 months and some serious pain. :O

Edzter said:
Wtf is zaros even doing anymore??


Well he tried. He should feel lucky he didn't get stepped on for some of those remarks.

Edzter said:
THAT MAZE WAS F***ING STUPID


I spent 4 hours in that hellhole. If the reddit post I finally had to use to cheat (I was almost done too...) is any indication, the maze is actually square, bisected left/right down the middle by the portals, and everything else is fake, randomly generated filler meant to confuse you. (Guess what? It worked! I could be in the same place twice and not recognize it. Following the left/right walls also doesn't work for some reason.)
Headcanon Haven, where everything is made up and the points don't matter.
OSRS Lore: Xeric

20-Dec-2016 19:34:25 - Last edited on 20-Dec-2016 19:40:14 by Lego Miester

Lego Miester

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Edzter said:
Why didn't nomad die in the first fight, more importantly, why didn't anybody else help?


Well Sliske says that's where he put the bit of world guardian soul so Nomad would be immune to god magic as well. Oh dear, that means if Nomad is still at large following being freed, he's still got that.

Edzter said:
Why was the scoreboard utterly worthless?


Sliske awarding the stone to himself would've been boring!
Headcanon Haven, where everything is made up and the points don't matter.
OSRS Lore: Xeric

20-Dec-2016 19:45:31

Hguoh
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Edzter said:
When and how did zaros make a deal with armadyl?


Before the endgame and to ensure that he could 'convince' whomsoever won the stone to hand it over and avert a God Wars that could wake the Elders too soon. You'd need to ask Armadyl what he got in return for the deal to learn the 'how' bit, but I'm not sure if he's open to talking about it.

Edzter said:
what is zammy gonna do on his end??


Unless there's a way for the final race to be you vs Zamorak, absolutely nothing. The deal was for a favor (handing over the stone if what happens when/if Armadyl or Saradomin win are any indication) during the endgame. As the endgame has passed, the deal has expired without consequence.

Edzter said:
Apparently I missed a part and other people say zaros made a deal with sara too????


Yes, he stole Saradomin's daughter and used her as leverage against him. Seren, however, stole the daughter from Zaros, and returned her to Saradomin after the endgame regardless of who won the stone.

Edzter said:
Then, why was vorago even there?


...to compete for the stone. That was kind of why everyone was there.

Edzter said:
What happened to the dragonkin?


Pretty sure they are free now, though I think Kerapac made himself into an extra crispy order of dragonkin roast.

Edzter said:
The stone of jas went boom and was never mentioned again?!


Never mentioned again? I got a chunk of it as a souvenir!

Edzter said:
Wtf is zaros even doing anymore?? (i changed my emissary which I forgot about to godless now)


Trying to prove Jas wrong by ascending to elder godhood despite her saying that it is impossible.

20-Dec-2016 20:08:36

Edzter

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In my playthrough, zaros had his chains on armadyl and armadyl succumbed
Watching another playthrough with a fully restored seren (mine didn't have neither elluned nor the dark shard in her) and she also had chains on armadyl?

So how?? what? when did?? what made the outcome differ?

20-Dec-2016 20:37:05 - Last edited on 20-Dec-2016 20:50:48 by Edzter

Hguoh
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Edzter said:
Is sliske inside us??? And will it take us another 8 months to find out what's up with that?
(Not to mention some people say he went to remonas (can't spell her name) body when we blacked out which makes me even more confused if that's true)


Sliske is most likely inside us, yes. It could take some time for that to start playing out, but we'll have to wait and see. While he could have gone into Relomia's body, her reaction afterwards (implying we know what is going on because of what we told her) indicates she is still herself (plus we didn't have the Staff of Armadyl to do another transfer, so he's likely stuck for now).

Edzter said:
Why didn't nomad die in the first fight, more importantly, why didn't anybody else help?


He did. It's just that he's a wight now, so Death is less inconvenient than before.

Edzter said:
Why are the elder gods awake???


Xenia started their wake up call back in HoS. Jas has now expedited that call.

Edzter said:
Why did jas' answers were so stupid?!!


The elders don't think like we do, and apparently answer quite literally. Jas at least doesn't understand that we might want more explanation than just 'because,' though she does seem to respond with more specific answers to more specific questions (like asking about the artifacts).

Edzter said:
Why was seren there with zaros and yet didn't say a word???


She didn't have a demand to make. She also appeared to understand that Jas wanted to talk to you and not her or Zaros.

20-Dec-2016 20:44:28

Hguoh
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Hguoh

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Edzter said:
Why was sliske jas' agent in the first place?? And how the hell??


Why? Probably the same reason we are now her agent, to prove the worth of mortals. Sliske just had other plans. As for how, we don't really know. Given the similarities between his plan now and the result of the Zarosian Empire's collapse, which he played a part in, I'd guess that he's been working with Jas since way back then. Maybe he's how the stone got from Kethsi and into Zamorak's hands, and he became her agent then.

Just wait and see.

Edzter said:
Queen of ashes??


Sliske knew about her, sure, but, much like V he traveled the planes. She'll show up eventually.

Edzter said:
Staff of armadyl??? Where did it come from, why was it there only at the end? (I assume the fight was for us while the cutscene was for story), but then...where is it now??? Do we have it??? Did we just leave it there???


Sliske had it, we disarmed him and used it against him. Then we got teleported to our audience with Jas while the staff was left behind. Presumably one of the assembled contestants claimed it after that.

20-Dec-2016 20:53:33 - Last edited on 20-Dec-2016 21:14:07 by Hguoh

Huichelaar

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Hguoh said:
Edzter said:
Why was sliske jas' agent in the first place?? And how the hell??


Why? Probably the same reason we are now her agent, to prove the worth of mortals. Sliske just had other plans. As for how, we don't really know. Given the similarities between his plan now and the result of the Zarosian Empire's collapse, which he played a part in, I'd guess that he's been working with Jas since way back then. Maybe he's how the stone got from Kethsi and into Zamorak's hands, and he became her agent then.


Suggestion: Perhaps Sliske's plan was to prove the worth of mortals by holding this contest. He wanted a fun time, and perhaps he figured he'd show whatever he found most fun to Jas as a reason to let mortals live.

On the other hand Sliske did say that he's lived for a long amount of time and that people are horribly boring, stagnant and self-destructive.

20-Dec-2016 21:41:15

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