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Jokku23

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Currently RS wiki is officially supported by Jagex, but Jagex does not control it.

But, since they have chosen to support one community, do you think Jagex should ensure that being a part of that community is fair for everyone? Should Jagex also make sure that the previous admins are not allowed to abuse their powers?

This is the topic of discussion.

The following example shows what I mean by power abuse. Note that this is not an appeal on the ban for the Wiki, and I have removed the name of the admin to avoid naming and shaming.

I contributed to the wiki by uploading the glitter bomb animation

About an hour later some of the admins replaced the file with his own upload. The reasoning was "No outfits '-'".

I checked his version and didn't see anything better with it (you always have to wear some outfit). I reverted back to the old version because it was uploaded first.

Then this is what happened. He banned me for 1 week.



[I have link to the page where that screenshot is from, but I removed the link from here to avoid naming and shaming]

I investigated the person and he has been registered to the wiki under 50% of the time that I have. His first edit was in 2017 July, while my first edit was in February 2015. I have no idea how he got admin powers. I also saw that someone tried to ban him for abuse but he just reverted the ban and blocked that person back with the reasoning "no u".



[I have link to the page where that screenshot is from, but I removed the link from here to avoid naming and shaming]

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05-Apr-2019 07:32:58

Jokku23

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Jagex's current stance is: "We’ve always loved that the Wikis are a community driven project, and we don’t want to interfere with that by controlling any aspect of its content or data. We’ll still of course provide any support to the guys running the Wikis if they need anything!"

I think they should reconsider this, because I think the current way how the Wiki is driven is not fair for everyone, and if Jagex is supporting them, they should also ensure that the Wiki is driven in a fair way.
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The Bible of Rimmington
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05-Apr-2019 07:33:04

Vlumondoxa
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Jagex doesn't run the wiki, check the comment in the other locked thread about how to appeal the block...
I don't have a signature, but wanted to have some content here.

05-Apr-2019 07:41:51

Jokku23

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Vlumondoxa said:
Jagex doesn't run the wiki, check the comment in the other locked thread about how to appeal the block...

This is not an appeal on the lock, please read the new thread first before posting!

Vlumondoxa said:
It is, there is nothing we can do here.

Please read the topic of the discussion:
Jokku23 said:
Currently RS wiki is officially supported by Jagex, but Jagex does not control it.

But, since they have chosen to support one community, do you think Jagex should ensure that being a part of that community is fair for everyone? Should Jagex also make sure that the previous admins are not allowed to abuse their powers?

This is the topic of discussion.
………. ,*˜*, ……. ,•°*•, … You'll … ,•*°•, …… ,*˜*, .………
„*˜……“• •“………'·,ΈΈ,‘•°. thank .°•',ΈΈ,·'……..“• •“……˜*„
……………………………………………………………………..
The Bible of Rimmington
“‹„ΈΈ„ •°`' · . ,ΈΈ, . · ‘ … me later … ' · . ,ΈΈ, . · '΄°•„ΈΈ„›“

05-Apr-2019 07:44:44 - Last edited on 05-Apr-2019 08:15:33 by Jokku23

Archaeox
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Jokku23 said:
Currently RS wiki is officially supported by Jagex, but Jagex does not control it.

But, since they have chosen to support one community, do you think Jagex should ensure that being a part of that community is fair for everyone? Should Jagex also make sure that the previous admins are not allowed to abuse their powers?

No, I see no reason why Jagex should act as some sort of court of appeal - this would undermine the independence of the Wiki.

Your logic would require Jagex to oversee every single approved fansite as well, which would be ridiculous.

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05-Apr-2019 07:49:58 - Last edited on 05-Apr-2019 07:51:26 by Archaeox

Jokku23

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Archaeox said:
No, I see no reason why Jagex should act as some sort of court of appeal - this would undermine the independence of the Wiki.

Do you see the independence of the Wiki as a good thing, and why if I may ask?

Archaeox said:
Your logic would require Jagex to oversee every single approved fansite as well, which would be ridiculous.

Where did you come to that conclusion?

I'm not talking about approved fansites, but those that are supported financially by Jagex.
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„*˜……“• •“………'·,ΈΈ,‘•°. thank .°•',ΈΈ,·'……..“• •“……˜*„
……………………………………………………………………..
The Bible of Rimmington
“‹„ΈΈ„ •°`' · . ,ΈΈ, . · ‘ … me later … ' · . ,ΈΈ, . · '΄°•„ΈΈ„›“

05-Apr-2019 08:19:16 - Last edited on 05-Apr-2019 08:19:33 by Jokku23

Vlumondoxa
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Thats only the Wiki, and still Jagex doesn't need to be in charge of the bans there. It's still community based.
I don't have a signature, but wanted to have some content here.

05-Apr-2019 08:39:49

Ms Toxicity
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Jokku23, although you have followed Tren's advice to remove the content, that named a specific player, posting a complaint about your treatment here is not appropriate.

Tren said:
@ Jokku23 - Your post has been removed, as these forums may not be used to "name and shame", and that includes using screenshots to do that.

Also remember, that while Jagex sponsors the wiki, it does not control it. The wiki is still community driven. From the The RuneScape Wiki News announcement:
"
Does Jagex control the Wikis?

Absolutely not. We’ve always loved that the Wikis are a community driven project, and we don’t want to interfere with that by controlling any aspect of its content or data. We’ll still of course provide any support to the guys running the Wikis if they need anything!"

If you wish to appeal a block on the wiki, follow their procedure for that (https://runescape.wiki/w/RuneScape:Block_policy) rather than complain about it on Jagex's forums.


Please follow the advice offered above and take it up with one of the fansite's Admin group. As there is nothing that can be achieved here in the RuneScape forums, please avoid posting this topic again.

05-Apr-2019 08:54:24

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