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Yusou Bhoroi

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It'll hopefully work out that AFKers go to the Spot world, and players go to the labeled server (though given that the vast majority of the permanent playing-Heist community are from EU timezones, it may not be the best choice of server).


Given that Ironaccs could have been the biggest boost of new players to Minigames, in a long time, it was a really bad mistake for them to cut Irons out of them (especially considering what little they can do them for was delayed in implementation, for so long, that it meant most had passed through the period where it was of use, and all the guides had been made, cutting the content out). It would have required tying the reward to gameplay - but that is what is required, anyway, so it wouldn't have been specifically for Irons, and would have helped all the playerbase.


Rewards not being linked to full participation, is the main problem holding Minigames back (and preventing any new rewards from being effective), as it means that people get them without ever having played the content (therefore there is 0 chance they will discover they like it, and might play beyond the major rewards), and it also means that anyone who does want to play, either gets prevented from doing so, or has to hide away to be able to play - which just cuts them off from other people, meaning their community is doomed to die out, and newcomers have even less chance of getting to experience play (if they happen to be one of the very few, who will even bother ever attempting play).

11-Dec-2018 17:24:22

Yusou Bhoroi

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UrekMazino said:
Cuteyspoon said:
Immortalized said:
i have never payed any cash on treasure hunter and have millions of bonus xp all around


We all do.

The TH point isn't dumb. It is the reason mini games are dead.

It is the reason Runescape is dead.

In fact you might aswell face the fact that any reward they added to mini games to improve them will just be stolen by the TH team so maybe just carry on removing mini games and content.

TH isn't causing minigames to die off... Unless you're buying spins, its faster to earn bxp from minigames like SC and heist. What's killing these minigames is that the xp rates for normal skilling is just way faster than the minigames. Hunter bxp from heist is around 300k/h iirc, and normal skilling is 1.5m/h. Pray tell, why would I play heist when I can just skill normally?


Less than that, if you're actually playing.

14-Dec-2018 00:24:16

Yusou Bhoroi

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You get keys from skilling, D&Ds, and Quests, too (averages 10 per day, for me - though I've never used a single key, free or otherwise).

The xp reward you obtain isn't limited to bxp, but is still useful (often more-so), and you can get things like proteans, which are essentially free xp.


The time element is another thing, as TH is a lot faster process, than Heist - and even faster than playing Heist.




There is also the factor that it can be quicker to earn money, in-game, to buy extra spins, than the time it takes to do Minigames for bxp (especially as you're earning xp, while making money).



The largest problem, though, is that the bxp rate is slower than the training rate, so is effectively a time-waste.

16-Dec-2018 14:40:30

Yusou Bhoroi

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None of those things require effort (they are just normal training), and all are things you gain xp doing, so it's completely different to a Minigame, which you have to go to, and not earn xp while doing.

They give you xp in whatever skill you were training anyway and you get keys (you're also likely to be earning money, at the same time..).

17-Dec-2018 12:46:46

Yusou Bhoroi

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UnwieldyPast said:
Immortalized said:

Also Ironmen cannot play, I am guessing because the only reward is bonus XP.


Doubtful. Ironmen exclusion from minigames seems to have been chosen by throwing a dart at the wall-- I'm not sure why, say, they're locked out of Fishing Trawler, but not GOP. Or why they can fight in the Fight Pits, but not Fist of Guthix.


You can play GOP, but you can't purchase any of the rewards (other than a 1-off purchase of a single Blood Altar Telepoort-tab.
It took a lot of poking to even get them to allow it to be playable.

(I agree with your sentiments, though).

20-Dec-2018 14:36:23

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