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Hguoh
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Amascut, you are missing one upcoming quest from your list. During the Runefest presentation around the 2016 quests, they announced that there would be one more Sliske's Game quest before Sliske's Endgame, but that's all they said about it stating they didn't want to spoil it.

07-Oct-2015 15:01:54

Amascut
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Hguoh said:
Amascut, you are missing one upcoming quest from your list. During the Runefest presentation around the 2016 quests, they announced that there would be one more Sliske's Game quest before Sliske's Endgame, but that's all they said about it stating they didn't want to spoil it.


That quest is Fate of the Gods 2.
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07-Oct-2015 15:47:04

Pink Sheeps
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Hguoh said:
Amascut said:
Hguoh said:
Amascut, you are missing one upcoming quest from your list. During the Runefest presentation around the 2016 quests, they announced that there would be one more Sliske's Game quest before Sliske's Endgame, but that's all they said about it stating they didn't want to spoil it.


That quest is Fate of the Gods 2.


No, it was distinctly separate from the others. Let me see if I can get a time stamp.


It was definitely Fate of the Gods 2, they said they'd come back to it later, and then they did.

07-Oct-2015 16:09:50

Lord Drakan
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Amascut said:
Lord Drakan said:
Whence did you get the information regarding the goebie quest? Also, it's not the first hottle quest. It's just the first in two-ish years.

Nomad's Elegy sounds like it would be good in theory, but terrible in practice. To work with the most interesting deceased characters without restriction, it'd have to require all the grandmaster quests (and obviously Nomad's Requiem), but obviously it won't. Nomad also sounds like his character will be tied into his role in Dishonour among Thieves, which was terrible. At this point nothing makes sense for him anymore. His master was Lucien, but surely he'll have learnt of his demise by now. He needn't worry about Surok, who is incarcerated. He could've easily killed Daquarius in DaT, but didn't. No logical options remain. :(

If the Sliske quests turn out like the void or MotM series, though, that'll be fantastic.

I'm probably most looking forward to the Myreque finale, even though I think it shouldn't be released yet, and the Gower quest.


Goebie info is from Stream, BTS, and Tweets :)

I'm quite excited for Elegy myself. It takes the best of NR Nomad and the best of DAT Nomad and pulls those story threads together, I think. I've wanted him to do something with the Underworld since we saw Death going after him, so this seems perfect :)

Why don't you think the Myreque finale should be released yet, btw? It seems perfect, riding the momentum from LoV, it saves resources by being able to use the current graphical work, and it wraps up a 5th Age story!

The best part of DaT-Nomad was his quarrel with Harold. Everything else was terrible and inconsistent with NR.

Other series should have priority over Myreque****. last desert quest was Dec 2010, pirate and EW Mar 2011. Myreque Sep 2015. I don't follow the graphics argument, and the momentum thing sounds silly**** contraire, give us time to ruminate, speculate...
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07-Oct-2015 20:04:27

Autumn Elite
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sir eos lee said:
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1) We've suffered from having many quest lines get so stalled over the years because devs would jump from 1 project to another, that in the cases where a dev left (like Mod Tytn) the quest series was effectively dead.
Dwarf story line? Elf/plague?
Story lines that started back in 2002-2005, got a small update in 2009, and it wasn't until post 2013 that dev started and mercifully ended.
The Myreque storyline simply concludes another.
With each hanging storyline completed, frees up the devs to focus on others.

2) We've known that hte "6th Age" and "God Wars 2" story lines would come to an end at some point. Now we're getting it.


I have no problems finishing old storylines. My issue is that they rewarded Myreque fans again so soon after the last instalment. They could have finished Pirates, Gnomes or Floor 61. Instead the same 60% who voted the Myreque get rewarded twice whilst the 40% get nothing. Also it adds yet another grandmaster to the schedule which could have as many as five grandmasters. Way to focus on a particular community section and not care about the rest.

I have no issues with the sixth age stuff.

Lord Drakan said:
Other series should have priority over Myreque****. last desert quest was Dec 2010, pirate and EW Mar 2011. Myreque Sep 2015. I don't follow the graphics argument, and the momentum thin


+1, but you forgot about the gnomes :(
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07-Oct-2015 21:04:16

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Here's the thing about the Myreque series: it's 5th Age. Its 5th Age*-ness is integral to the story, in a way that doesn't hold true for any other ongoing older questlines. tLoV has set up the Edicts (or mortal misunderstanding of them) as central to the final installment of the series.

So, this puts a big damper on any stories going forward. Misthalin and Morytania are pretty much excluded as major players in 6th Age content, and while certain stories can be partially set there, quests are unable to deal with their governments, political/social situations, until the Myreque series is resolved. Otherwise, the devs will have to write themselves into a corner where the end result of a decade+ long story is zero net change.

Beyond that, momentum is more important than you might think. I recently replayed the dwarf quests, all in a row. VASTLY different experience than playing them the first time. Especially in the John A quests, there are overarching themes, parallel situations, character arcs, that you completely miss when you space your experience of the quest out over several years. The first time I played Birthright, I thought it was a big disappointment. The second time, I thought it was an amazing narrative triumph.

Now, we can't serialize all quests at once. And inevitably, some quest series with several-year gaps will have to stay on hold a bit longer. But I think it's far better to deal with the remaining questlines one by one, releasing the remaining parts of each individual story within the space of a few months to a year, rather than continuing the trend of 3-5 year gaps for the remainders of all questlines.

08-Oct-2015 02:14:41

Lord Drakan
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Autumn Elite said:
Lord Drakan said:
Other series should have priority over Myreque****. last desert quest was Dec 2010, pirate and EW Mar 2011. Myreque Sep 2015. I don't follow the graphics argument, and the momentum thin


+1, but you forgot about the gnomes :(

Hence the (censored...) 'e.g.' I also left out druids, who have been waiting since 2004, monkeys, 2010, slugs (because we all agree SitW should be reworked if resources and manpower weren't restrictive factors), 2011 and penguins, 2012. Then there's Temple Knights, 2011/2013, aaand that's about it., since Drakkerkin were also 2015.
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08-Oct-2015 07:15:03

FlammaUriah
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Vampyres cannot easily be brought into the sixth age until their current series is completed, regardless of your thoughts on the quests themselves, this I feel is obvious. To bring them in prior to the completion of the current series is not only a risky move, but also one that hinders their creativity and storytelling abilities and has the potential to make the series even less appealing to people who already dislike the quest line.

At this point in time, with where DaT ended, I feel it would be rather hard for Floor 61 to be played as a 5th age quest, which would make it a 6th age quest, opening yet another potential storyline and putting off the completion of still more 5th age quests. Yes, the poll was for one Myreque quest, however, I do believe this was a smart decision on their part. Not only does this keep the momentum going, but as the developers are wanting to see the next quest finished, that means they'll be passionate about it, which will result in a better quest compared to what we might get if we waited another few years.

Personally I think that, in addition to the sixth age they continue to push out each year, that they should dedicate a year to completing a 5th age quest series, or bring them up into the 6th age, if possible. It would take a few years, but this way we'd at least get them done in a reasonable time.
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08-Oct-2015 19:21:46

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Autumn Elite said:

I have no problems finishing old storylines. My issue is that they rewarded Myreque fans again so soon after the last instalment. They could have finished Pirates, Gnomes or Floor 61. Instead the same 60% who voted the Myreque get rewarded twice whilst the 40% get nothing. Also it adds yet another grandmaster to the schedule which could have as many as five grandmasters. Way to focus on a particular community section and not care about the rest.


Floor 61 will be a grandmaster too, so either way a GM heavy quest log is happening. The Myreque storylines are in the unique position of being 5th age, and needing to continue to be 5th age. The next gnome storyline, penguin storyline, or even Temple Knights can be brought into the 6th age, or have their fate in the air, but the Myreque need the edicts in place to make the finale have the requisite import. The problem is that this prevents future Vampyre 6th age content (and Myreque too) because their fates are integral to the plotline. To use them and reveal their fates would limit any impact of the FINALE. You can't do that to a questline finale.

So as long as the Myreque aren't done, they can't move into the 6th age, and beyond when the Gods become more overt. It's either finish their 5th age content or abandon them, as their lack of interest in the 6th age would decrease further interest. Combine that with the momentum going on and completing this was a foregone conclusion. Also, this needed to be done before yet another developer in the line leaves.

08-Oct-2015 21:05:59

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