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Pack Yakchu

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Just finished The Lord of Vampyrium, and I can't wait for the River of Blood finale. The Myreque series gets better and better with every release and it's going to be really sad to see the series end. Hopefully the writers do the quest justice!

Great job on the thread by the way, I will check back periodically for updates!
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28-Oct-2015 04:17:08

Autumn Elite
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Back to the Dragon Slyaer discussion, I do see some of your points but those could just be addressed it some small dialogue additions. I suppose what I'm struggling to see is why it needs a full rework. Unlike say mining & smithing, it isn't broken and unlike Romeo & Juliet, it fits the story. Also why dragon slayer? If we are going to go through quests that need a clear up and to be tightened up, there's a bunch I'd put far ahead of dragon slayer. For example, Legend's quest.

Also what free to play quests do you consider better? Only Death of Chivalry beats it.

Pack Yakchu said:
It's going to be really sad to see the series end.


Well I will be jumping for joy :p

Also there has been some discussions on twitter about the slayer master quest. Osbourne said the pitch on the survey was designed to entice non questers, could be a trojan horse filled with lore and it may be more than one quest although they are not committing to that. I still remain unconvinced by its necessity and being based almost entirely on "people love slayer, people will love a slayer quest" mentality but there's something at least.
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30-Oct-2015 13:08:39 - Last edited on 30-Oct-2015 13:12:20 by Autumn Elite

Amascut
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Autumn Elite said:
Back to the Dragon Slyaer discussion, I do see some of your points but those could just be addressed it some small dialogue additions. I suppose what I'm struggling to see is why it needs a full rework. Unlike say mining & smithing, it isn't broken and unlike Romeo & Juliet, it fits the story. Also why dragon slayer? If we are going to go through quests that need a clear up and to be tightened up, there's a bunch I'd put far ahead of dragon slayer. For example, Legend's quest.

Also what free to play quests do you consider better? Only Death of Chivalry beats it.


Quite frankly, some dialogue updates doesn't fix the age of the quest. It's old, looks old, and plays old. It needs some love :P

And better quests? Death of Chivalry, Demon Slayer, Myths of the White Lands, Rune Mysteries, and Stolen Hearts, with ease.
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30-Oct-2015 19:18:46

Aquamancer
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Autumn Elite said:
Back to the Dragon Slyaer discussion, I do see some of your points but those could just be addressed it some small dialogue additions. I suppose what I'm struggling to see is why it needs a full rework. Unlike say mining & smithing, it isn't broken and unlike Romeo & Juliet, it fits the story. Also why dragon slayer? If we are going to go through quests that need a clear up and to be tightened up, there's a bunch I'd put far ahead of dragon slayer. For example, Legend's quest.

Also what free to play quests do you consider better? Only Death of Chivalry beats it.


Of course they're are plenty of quests that would need a rework. The question what quest should be reworked first is all about priotization though, and since Dragon Slayer and all the other outdated f2p quests are more accessible to a larger portion of the playerbase than any other quest, it'd probably be a smart idea for f2p quests to be brought up to date first.

As for Dragon Slayer fitting the story, it isn't really integrated to the grand story of RuneScape too well, really. Dragon Slayer is pretty seperate from the main story of RuneScape: Elvarg isn't pivotal in anything outside of Dragon Slayer and doesn't have lore, Crandor isn't pivotal in anything before its destruction, and in all honesty, the quest could probably be removed without almost no damage being dealt to the continuity of RuneScape's storyline.

And as for what quests are better, well, Amascut pretty much said everything I would've said. Death of Chivalry, Demon Slayer, Myths of the White Lands, Rune Mysteries, and Stolen Hearts, with possible A Shadow over Ashdale thrown into the mix. Pirate's Treasure, Vampyre Slayer and Imp Catcher reworks would have potential for really brilliant quests as well.

30-Oct-2015 22:00:56

Iceey
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Dialogue alone cannot help Dragon Slayer. The quest is so out of date compared to other quest.

They make a dragon seem all high and mighty when they simply aren't. The flow of the quest is terrible. You want rune. You have to kill a dragon. You have to find 3 map pieces. You buy a ship which is destroyed. Once you are a member, you get 4 ships that are way better than the other. You end up finding out that the powerful dragon is a green dragon which is the WEAKEST of all dragons. I just don't see it being able to destroy a whole island. We have the QBD living UNDER Asgarnia and even awake it doesn't destroy the world.

They make Crandor seem like an extremly dangerous place when it isn't. I would be more scared of Karamja because they are linked via underground.

They Dragon Slayer quest has so much potential to be an amazing remake. It is just far too out of date.

Rewards could be so much better and I think the quest should require all F2P skills especially with it being the final of F2P, oh wait.... That is Ashdale now. Even the Kraken is a harder fight than the dragon.


Some rewards could be the ability to find other dragon heads to add to the PoH with KBD head around the room or in a different room.

F2P quests are far more important than P2P quests and they can't re do every single quest, so focusing on F2P would be the correct move. The only reason you cannot see that is because you are blinded by nostalgia. If you honestly think Dragon Slayer is a great quest, do some of the new quests and then do Dragon Slayer just to see how outdated and bad the quest is.
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31-Oct-2015 11:56:56 - Last edited on 31-Oct-2015 11:59:16 by Iceey

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Whence did you get the information regarding the goebie quest? Also, it's not the first hottle quest. It's just the first in two-ish years.

Nomad's Elegy sounds like it would be good in theory, but terrible in practice. To work with the most interesting deceased characters without restriction, it'd have to require all the grandmaster quests (and obviously Nomad's Requiem), but obviously it won't. Nomad also sounds like his character will be tied into his role in Dishonour among Thieves, which was terrible. At this point nothing makes sense for him anymore. His master was Lucien, but surely he'll have learnt of his demise by now. He needn't worry about Surok, who is incarcerated. He could've easily killed Daquarius in DaT, but didn't. No logical options remain.

If the Sliske quests turn out like the void or MotM series, though, that'll be fantastic.

I'm probably most looking forward to the Myreque finale, even though I think it shouldn't be released yet, and the Gower quest.
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31-Oct-2015 19:01:35

Amascut
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Virtue Power said:
Whence did you get the information regarding the goebie quest? Also, it's not the first hottle quest. It's just the first in two-ish years.

Nomad's Elegy sounds like it would be good in theory, but terrible in practice. To work with the most interesting deceased characters without restriction, it'd have to require all the grandmaster quests (and obviously Nomad's Requiem), but obviously it won't. Nomad also sounds like his character will be tied into his role in Dishonour among Thieves, which was terrible. At this point nothing makes sense for him anymore. His master was Lucien, but surely he'll have learnt of his demise by now. He needn't worry about Surok, who is incarcerated. He could've easily killed Daquarius in DaT, but didn't. No logical options remain.

If the Sliske quests turn out like the void or MotM series, though, that'll be fantastic.

I'm probably most looking forward to the Myreque finale, even though I think it shouldn't be released yet, and the Gower quest.


Goebie quest info was largely from streams the Dev Team did revealing parts of it :) It's the first official Bottle Quest, and as such was classified that way.

I'm very excited for Elegy myself. Master level, and will require Requiem and DAT, so both his appearances will be covered. DAT was spectacular beyond one single line for Nomad, either way. And frankly, everything still makes sense for him, even moreso now with the 6th Age. Moving away from the godawful idea of Lucien as his master was such a stellar step up for the story, and hopefully the actual identity of the Master can be something interesting enough to stop people from STILL getting held up on something that was never canon and had too many logic holes to count.
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01-Nov-2015 09:24:31

Lord Drakan
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Amascut said:
something that was never canon and had too many logic holes to count.

Yeah so, it was canon and it fit all the hints. That's why it was confirmed back in 2012. They just retconned it now to something considerably stupider, but hopefully the sequel should fix that.

Moreover, why did Virtue Power copy my post...verbatim?
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01-Nov-2015 17:17:33

Pink Sheeps
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Lord Drakan said:
Whence did you get the information regarding the goebie quest? Also, it's not the first hottle quest. It's just the first in two-ish years.

Nomad's Elegy sounds like it would be good in theory, but terrible in practice. To work with the most interesting deceased characters without restriction, it'd have to require all the grandmaster quests (and obviously Nomad's Requiem), but obviously it won't. Nomad also sounds like his character will be tied into his role in Dishonour among Thieves, which was terrible. At this point nothing makes sense for him anymore. His master was Lucien, but surely he'll have learnt of his demise by now. He needn't worry about Surok, who is incarcerated. He could've easily killed Daquarius in DaT, but didn't. No logical options remain. :(

If the Sliske quests turn out like the void or MotM series, though, that'll be fantastic.

I'm probably most looking forward to the Myreque finale, even though I think it shouldn't be released yet, and the Gower quest.


This is Lord Drakans post from page 102. Virtue Power has just copied this word for word to pass it off as his own. His also done this on other threads and yesterday was being disruptive on the forums by gravebumping. His just a troll.

01-Nov-2015 19:14:39

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