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sir eos lee

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@Amascut
The bad news is to bring the quest up to date, they are basically going to have to scrap the old code, and build it from the ground up like they did with Demon Slayer, Rune Mysteries, Druidic Ritual, Wolf Whistle and more.
Spiritually, you might get the same quest (you have to slay a dragon), but you probably see a whole new set of mechanics.
And 'm not sure Jagex is big on doing it unless they've got nothing better to do (ha!) or players vote on it thru RuneLabs or Jagex setting up a poll of "hey everyone, we're going to rework and old quest and want you, the players to vote on which 1 we do!"

10-Nov-2015 23:39:14

Amascut
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sir eos lee said:
@Amascut
The bad news is to bring the quest up to date, they are basically going to have to scrap the old code, and build it from the ground up like they did with Demon Slayer, Rune Mysteries, Druidic Ritual, Wolf Whistle and more.
Spiritually, you might get the same quest (you have to slay a dragon), but you probably see a whole new set of mechanics.
And 'm not sure Jagex is big on doing it unless they've got nothing better to do (ha!) or players vote on it thru RuneLabs or Jagex setting up a poll of "hey everyone, we're going to rework and old quest and want you, the players to vote on which 1 we do!"


Legitimately, that's what needs to happen. From the ground total rework, with the general story core remaining in place with Crandor and the three brothers.
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11-Nov-2015 04:52:44

sir eos lee

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Amascut said:
sir eos lee said:
@Amascut
The bad news is to bring the quest up to date, they are basically going to have to scrap the old code, and build it from the ground up like they did with Demon Slayer, Rune Mysteries, Druidic Ritual, Wolf Whistle and more.
Spiritually, you might get the same quest (you have to slay a dragon), but you probably see a whole new set of mechanics.
And 'm not sure Jagex is big on doing it unless they've got nothing better to do (ha!) or players vote on it thru RuneLabs or Jagex setting up a poll of "hey everyone, we're going to rework and old quest and want you, the players to vote on which 1 we do!"


Legitimately, that's what needs to happen. From the ground total rework, with the general story core remaining in place with Crandor and the three brothers.


One of the mages was a girl ... check the rs wikia transcript for it ...

11-Nov-2015 20:37:06

Fat N Wacky
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sir eos lee said:
Amascut said:
sir eos lee said:
@Amascut
The bad news is to bring the quest up to date, they are basically going to have to scrap the old code, and build it from the ground up like they did with Demon Slayer, Rune Mysteries, Druidic Ritual, Wolf Whistle and more.
Spiritually, you might get the same quest (you have to slay a dragon), but you probably see a whole new set of mechanics.
And 'm not sure Jagex is big on doing it unless they've got nothing better to do (ha!) or players vote on it thru RuneLabs or Jagex setting up a poll of "hey everyone, we're going to rework and old quest and want you, the players to vote on which 1 we do!"


Legitimately, that's what needs to happen. From the ground total rework, with the general story core remaining in place with Crandor and the three brothers.


One of the mages was a girl ... check the rs wikia transcript for it ...


Yeah -- Thalzar, I believe it was (that's off the top of my head, though -- so, correct me if I'm wrong...), the one who lived across the river from Lumbridge castle, and was killed by Goblins (Which, let's be real here -- How realistic is that?? A mage powerful enough to be one of the three sole survivors off Crandor gets bested by a bunch of chumps??).

Also, I don't know that they were siblings -- Melzar, Lozar, and Thalzar... Were they?
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13-Nov-2015 07:36:39

sir eos lee

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@Arctucrus
There are players in game who get their magic levels thru teleportation, enchantment, and alchemy. Thus 0 combat xp.
No combat xp, no defense training, nor any constitution xp.

So while she was a powerful mage and 'could' cast Fire Wave a couple of times. She would have still be outnumbered.
Who's to say how many runes she had on hand. Or if she was half/fully drunk and didn't realize she had a goblin horde at her doorstep.
Plus we don't know what the definition of 'powerful' is. She could have been in the 30s or 50s in magic and been considered "powerful"

As for the whole quest, they could just shrug it off as Xenia and others pulling strings.
Yes, Elvarg is troublesome, but Xenia specifically wanted the player (and other potentials) under the general umbrella of the adventurer guilds.
So she bullied the Champion Guildmaster and Ozia** to send you on what should have been a no more than a glorified slayer task. Sure, someone in the Guild would have taken it up, considering how old the job would have been. And the fact that the map pieces were a bit more annoying to get was unexpected.
But in the end, they needed to give you something resembling an entrance exam, and they picked something that would have barely fit their normal criteria. But, it would stil lbe noteworthy enough to "look" dangerous.

17-Nov-2015 07:04:18

Amascut
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sir eos lee said:
@Arctucrus
There are players in game who get their magic levels thru teleportation, enchantment, and alchemy. Thus 0 combat xp.
No combat xp, no defense training, nor any constitution xp.

So while she was a powerful mage and 'could' cast Fire Wave a couple of times. She would have still be outnumbered.
Who's to say how many runes she had on hand. Or if she was half/fully drunk and didn't realize she had a goblin horde at her doorstep.
Plus we don't know what the definition of 'powerful' is. She could have been in the 30s or 50s in magic and been considered "powerful"

As for the whole quest, they could just shrug it off as Xenia and others pulling strings.
Yes, Elvarg is troublesome, but Xenia specifically wanted the player (and other potentials) under the general umbrella of the adventurer guilds.
So she bullied the Champion Guildmaster and Ozia** to send you on what should have been a no more than a glorified slayer task. Sure, someone in the Guild would have taken it up, considering how old the job would have been. And the fact that the map pieces were a bit more annoying to get was unexpected.
But in the end, they needed to give you something resembling an entrance exam, and they picked something that would have barely fit their normal criteria. But, it would stil lbe noteworthy enough to "look" dangerous.


But none of that ever comes up in the plot. If it was a part of the quest, sure, that could be better. But it's not, and the quest direly needs something better.

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Anywho, Gower Quest has been confirmed for early in 2016, and the Tutorial Island quest seems to have two potential names: Tutorialist Island and Tutorialist Reef. They don't really sound like quest names to me, admittedly, but we'll see.
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19-Nov-2015 17:48:03

Fat N Wacky
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Amascut said:
Anywho, Gower Quest has been confirmed for early in 2016, and the Tutorial Island quest seems to have two potential names: Tutorialist Island and Tutorialist Reef. They don't really sound like quest names to me, admittedly, but we'll see.


+1
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25-Nov-2015 13:03:42

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sir eos lee said:

Now ... if you really still feel like this is a problem, you can always petition Jagex to up the difficulty of Elvarg so that she level scales or something, so that now she starts out at a level as high or higher than Black Dragons for some players.

Scaling is a terrible idea. You end up fighting a monster that's way more powerful than you, and get level 5 rewards. Anyways, it doesn't make sense to have the monsters level up with you, if you want it to be easy for low level players, make it low leveled. And this is meant to be a rather low level quest. What they do need though is to upgrade the graphics a bit.

25-Nov-2015 16:46:17

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Fat N Wacky said:
Amascut said:
Anywho, Gower Quest has been confirmed for early in 2016, and the Tutorial Island quest seems to have two potential names: Tutorialist Island and Tutorialist Reef. They don't really sound like quest names to me, admittedly, but we'll see.


+1


really? those are the names? lol... ya im not feeling them either.

25-Nov-2015 20:50:57

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