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Mod William

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Runefest is so close that we can taste it, and we can't wait for 23rd September to roll around so we can meet you all once again.

We want the Runefest Reveals session to be something special, with some surprises held back for this big day. The session will include more info on the Clue Scroll Rework, Combat Pets, and the announcement of new projects that address RuneScape's Unfinished Business. For those, you'll have to wait and see.

But there's still plenty to get excited about. Read on!

Mining & Smithing Rework

First off, thank you to every one of you who voted in our recent poll.

The question was whether we should prioritise new high-level Mining & Smithing content over a wholesale rework of the skill, and your answer was clear: 69% voted no.

As such, we will be focusing our attention on reworking the skill across its level range, based on the design presented in our Mining & Smithing Dev Diaries.

We'll share specific design details with you in upcoming Dev Diaries and subsequent polls, including what the new, desirable reward specific to Smithing will be.

Until then, though, we'll be getting our noses to the grindstone. Mining & Smithing is perhaps the epitome of Unfinished Business, and it's time to get it done. Onwards!


There's been a good deal of criticism on our recent use of polls. We hear you, and are taking immediate action to address your concerns.

From now on, our process will be:

  1. Open discussion. We'll start by posting a discussion thread on the forums, detailing the aspect of development in question. We'll outline what we're hoping to achieve, perhaps propose a few starting ideas, then open it up to you.

  2. Dev blog. Next, we'll gather together all your thoughts, ideas and feedback and propose a solution that we think fits, in a dev blog format. We'll include proposed poll text, and make it clear what happens if either side comes out on top. We'll take your feedback on this and adjust the poll text accordingly.

  3. Poll goes live. We'll publish the poll through the in-game system. We'll monitor the results, and if there's any indication that unforeseen issues are corrupting the results, we'll re-run it.

  4. Post Results. Finally, we'll make a short dev blog-style post confirming the outcome and where we're going from there.

In the past, we have resolved to take a strict 'Yes/No' approach, but we will reconsider this in the future. Where appropriate, expect to see ranking polls, run-offs like the Combat Pet poll, and others.

That said, we will do all we can to avoid pitching content against other content. Everyone's different, and we won't risk underserving particular player types, producing winners with only a small proportion of the total vote, or creating yet more Unfinished Business.

Look out for a new Poll Survey System within the next few months. It'll allow us to ask multiple questions at once, as well as different kinds. We want you to be able to have real control over the content that matters most to you, and the new system will be indispensable as we tackle the big bits of content like Mining and Smithing.

Finished Business

There's some big content on the horizon, but we're geared up to tackle it head on. With your help, we're confident that we can handle everything that's needed – and more.

What's more, we're already starting to see the fruits. Achievements Pt. 2 is with us already, bringing much-needed interface improvements and utility. Shattered Worlds anima rates have been improved, and next week's update sees the launch of Invention batch 2.

Expect more of this for the rest of the year and beyond – meaningful updates every month, improving the game we all know and love.

See you at Runefest!

Mod Osborne and the RuneScape Team

12-Sep-2017 08:49:24 - Last edited on 12-Sep-2017 14:31:22 by Mod William

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You admit your use of polls has been incredibly bad and note that a "yes/no" poll is one of the problems yet you STILL allowed that horribly rigged ice poll to go through? People called you out on that the moment you opened it but you still didnt scrap it, redo it or even restart it. Heck we STILL dont even know what the other options of dye colours there where cus (as i've got photo evidence of) you guys claimed to have already chosen ice dye to win before the poll even went out!

If you really wanna show you mean to do polls better, nullify the result of that rigged poll, put up a new one and actually let us CHOOSE from a range of colour options. I dont care if you already made the dye (tbh people didnt even like how you made it anyway), you should redo that poll properly for a true result, not just the one you wanted

12-Sep-2017 14:57:45

Shadow Guard
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Mod William said:
That said, we will do all we can to avoid pitching content against other content. Everyone's different, and we won't risk underserving particular player types, producing winners with only a small proportion of the total vote, or creating yet more Unfinished Business.

You mean PvPers, Clans, and mini game communities.

I'll believe it when I see it.
Shadow Imperium

12-Sep-2017 15:03:40

Autumn Elite
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Roddy Piper said:
I got a better idea. Don't reveal anything and don't poll anything.

You're welcome!

Yeah because their design of Menaphos, Shattered Worlds and their opinions on Mining and Smithing really show competence lately. /s

Take the time to make sure your plans are well thought out and agreed with from the community. This way is much better than having flops like Menaphos then “whoopsie, we messed up, have to scrap half the years content” Osborne calling the shots.
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12-Sep-2017 15:21:38

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Nice to see that it's all starting to happen. :)

When you start a new discussion on the forums that's related to future content / a poll, is there any way you can throw a message in game for people who don't peruse the forums on a regular basis?

Along the lines of:

"Welcome to RuneScape"
"A new discussion has broken out regarding content on the sub forum. See what's being proposed and have your say! QFC: blah"

That way it'll be very hard for people to not be in the know about content when it's polled.

12-Sep-2017 15:30:05 - Last edited on 12-Sep-2017 15:31:49 by Samaster

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Thank you for the update.

I appreciate the team sticking their heads down and pushing forward with Invention Batch 2, it was soon becoming a meme and i'm glad it's finally on it's way out. Although I am already 200m, Invention and it's perks still entice me to be involved with the skill, and I hope the new machines will also do that, from what I have already seen they look great.

A new polling system also sounds great, although please don't fall flat on your faces by adding a default answer. I remember this with Combat Pets which was subsequently fixed, although it shouldn't have happened in the first place because it gives the impression of an unfair poll. I understand it was a clear oversight and obviously wasn't intentional, just please keep this in mind.

Other than that, I'm certainly looking forward to future updates and the whole 'Unfinished Business' mantra, but I would also like to see some clan-orientated (especially UI updates) which will be a breath fresh air. Clans are such an enormous and essential part of the game and it's really saddening to see it being mistreated and underappreciated. Please consider reading some of the many great ideas that are posted on the CLF, there's some great ones that will really help us out.
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12-Sep-2017 15:33:05 - Last edited on 12-Sep-2017 15:33:47 by SuperDeacon

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