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MapleStory
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This is going to be ridiculous but I have to preface this entire post with a paragraph long disclaimer just because the mods piss poor reading comprehension to the extent where they see a topic that's not a price check and immediately flag it as item manipulation, so I apologize if I'm speaking the obvious here.

This is an Item Discussion Forum. There is more to say about these items than simply "They Exist and have a Value". There are also characteristics and opinions that people hold that we can discuss. Certain items have lore, and aesthetic value, or historical significance amongst countless other factors comprising the way we view it as a whole.

There is more to these items than simply a dollar value, yet this seems to be the only "Item Discussion" taken place on these forums, and it is this perspective of viewing items solely as investments that the moderators on this forum have been pushing for many many years. It must end.

I am a fashionscape oriented player, these items are not just money to me, from my perspective there is also aesthetic value to be considered, such as the graphics quality, if it can be matched easily with other clothing, and etc. Yet I am not allowed to discuss anything like that on these forums and have literally been unjustly muted Twice for my desire to do so even though I did nothing wrong, but that is an entirely different story altogether and not the point of this thread.

I would like to look at both these items, abstracted completely from their value as investments. I have alot to say about both of them, having owned both for years and having spoke to many people and gathered many opinions.

I am not breaking any rules, I am not here to discuss the market of these two items. I want to discuss the items themselves, any mod who interferes in this topic will be posted and reported to reddit. I am recording everything.

Again I would like to apologize for this lengthy disclaimer,

19-Dec-2018 08:35:12 - Last edited on 19-Dec-2018 08:40:22 by MapleStory

MapleStory
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"Which Cape is The Most Boutique?" Is a question common asked in the world of Fashionscape. The Gem Sack Cape and The Abomination Cape came into being in very different ways. Touching briefly on their genesis; The Gem Sack being a highly sought after Treasure Hunter Rare, whose price became highly inflated due to the long duration between re release. And The Abomination Cape, which is an absurdly rare drop (I believe the exact figure has been released by Jagex, estimated at around 1/11,000+ chance or so) from what many consider to be an obscure and painstaking process. The boss has been described to me as excruciating, so not a popular boss to fight. It involves mechanics such as manipulating the Bosses movements towards field hazards to effectively damage it. Very few I spoke to found enjoyment from the task.

This is all I will have to say with regards to monetary value, due to these circumstances, the cash value of both these items has become comparable with each other to which they are both within the same ballpark for collectors looking to invest in. For the time being anyway. As I stated before, the Gem Sack in Particular is a Treasure Hunter item, and as you know, Treasure Hunter Promo's have the possibility of being repeated. (This is not shilling! This is a fact... I'm just saying, so don't call me a manip). So there is always a chance they could be re released and the prestige could plummet, But for now, at this very moment, they are on par with eachother. At least in regards to general desirability, they are interchangeable.

Now for the Aesthetics...

19-Dec-2018 08:50:03 - Last edited on 19-Dec-2018 09:43:40 by MapleStory

Phuzzy
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comparing apples to oranges,
Abomination cape, A hard to sell cape with alot of competition from other capes.

Gem sack .. dunno will never buy it, Also facing competition from its rival the (Shadow gem sack) a cheaper somewhat cosmetically appealing variant i would likely buy over the original sack.

Cosmetically appealing? For me not really.

Overall, tbh there not that fancy... just cosmetics with value on it therefore its worth talking about, right?
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19-Dec-2018 09:01:33 - Last edited on 19-Dec-2018 09:12:16 by Phuzzy

MapleStory
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Phuzzy said:
comparing apples to oranges,
Abomination cape, A hard to sell cape with alot of competition from other capes.

Gem sack .. dunno will never buy it.

Cosmetically appealing? For me not really.

Overall, tbh there not that fancy... just cosmetics with value on it therefore its worth talking about, right?


I would love to address this comment! Thank you!

As you know, basically what you said is True, these are 2 very different capes. The cape slot is very important and interesting, as we do not directly have a discontinued rare item to occupy this space. We've seen in the past, as you've probably witness, before the times of Treasure Hunter uncertainty, there was a brief period where the Mimic Tongue Cape was erroneously regarded as a discontinued item and ballooned in excess of 1.7b before the Cape was re-released, and the rest is history as I know too well, having been heavily invested in those Tongues! It was a very rough day for me, but that was long ago and not the point.

I know what you are thinking, Why the Gem Sack Cape? Why not the Regular Gem Cape? The Gem Sack appears to have more prestige and I would estimate it is slightly more rare as it is an newer addition to the Gem line, and not been re released as often yet. But Gem Sack vs Cape is a very interesting discussion and one I would like to touch on in a future editorial...

As I was saying, the closest we have to an item that can be considered Boutique that can be worn in the cape slot is the Cloak of Seasons. However, if the fate of the Seasons Crown is any indication, that item maybe seeing a mass release as regular ingame content. But that is not my place to say, just an observation. As of today the season armor and cape and pet has not been touched by Jagex so there is also a possibility it maybe left alone. I will not say either way as to not compromise the integrity of this thread and give mods the ammo to crucify me for attempted manip.

19-Dec-2018 09:17:35

MapleStory
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Continuing on, I don't feel the cape slot has lost all meaning as you seem to be implying.
Think of it like a fine Adidas track suit when you are out squatting, a passer by will look at you, knod their head, and give an approving "nice". There is competition in the cape slot I suppose but not in the same regard which I am speaking.

These 2 capes in particular have a distinct properties and a price that demands attention (unfortunately that aspect cannot be ignored). And although there are countless other capes in game, they do not have the same draw as these two and are not so easily acquired.

Yes, you can go wear an Obby cape or something, but it does not have the coolness factor we are trying to pin down here. Just like you can go wear Rune Full Helmet over a White Party Hat or a Bunny Ears, but we have to consider impact. This is fashionscape and not an exact science.

If it were that easy, and money was all that mattered, I would just say flip a coin and pick one.

19-Dec-2018 09:26:21 - Last edited on 19-Dec-2018 09:45:02 by MapleStory

MapleStory
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You see? This Truly makes me sad, and it is a fundamental problem with the nature of the discussion on this subforum? Why does it have to always be about money? That thought process is so thoroughly ingrained that we cannot even think of items as anything else.

You see, I wish I could post my articles about the Beauty of particular items, but every time I try, they shut it down and say it's propaganda, so I cannot even say in detail what the items I am discussing even are.

So yes, The Gem Sack Cape is just another TH junk, and The Abomination Cape is just an absurdly rare drop from a pain in the ass boss that no one wants to fight, just as the same way a Party Hat is just roach that was tossed on the ground as useless many years ago.

If you speak of the items plainly like that, there is a huge part of the story you are neglecting to tell. The items have weight, and it is not just money. That is what I'm trying to say and I wish I could say more but somehow it has become against the rules to discuss items on this item discussion board.

19-Dec-2018 09:54:56 - Last edited on 19-Dec-2018 11:36:59 by MapleStory

Theos
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For me, Abomination cape wins hands down. The idea of wearing a sack on my NPC's back that drops gems doesn't feel appealing. I like the design of the Abomination cape, rarity, and I can easily make it blend with various outfits.

#FashionScape :P

19-Dec-2018 13:46:54

MapleStory
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Full disclosure. I have 1 abomination cape and 1 gem sack cape that are for my own personal uses, and I have no intention of stockpiling to flip or "Hyping up" anything. Those days of shilling Holy Wreath and Mimic Tongue Capes are long behind me, it's literally been years, it's time you guys moved on, I know I have.

I3aldur, it is a thing that is highly contested within the hardcore fashionscape circles. Both the Abomination Cape and the Gem Sack Cape are virtually tied for best in slot cosmetics for capes, with both being of comparable rarity and having a price fluctuating around 1b gil for the reasons I mentioned above.

The vast majority of those frequenting this sub forum has demonstrated to not know what these items even are, there is a large epidemic of ignorance on these forums and to be clear, I am not taking a side or shilling on behalf of one side or the other, both capes in my opinion have their uses, but I consider them for the most part equal.

This is one of the problems I have spoken about, there needs to be more awareness for items such as these that most people don't even know existed. It is not "Hyping up anything". These are items that exist in game, they were worth what they were worth long before I made this thread and I am confident I have had no effect on their prices, so I would appreciate if you would stop insinuating I am a sellout.

I feel it is the duty of this Item Discussion forum to not just record the prices of these items, but to also educate the Runescape Population as to what these items are, how they look, and their fashionscape applications. But we have become so obsessed with money, that these discussions are not even taking place and in some cases even censored because of precieved manip.

I know I am on the right side of history when I say this: The meaning of the Abomination Cape and the Gem Sack Cape has been largely misinterpreted by the greater Runescape community at large.

20-Dec-2018 01:08:53 - Last edited on 20-Dec-2018 01:19:11 by MapleStory

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