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qhi
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I agree with Kufr, you're listening to basically, in a proper sense, bull crud written by Korrokr (or whatever his name is). IT'S NOT fair that Jarkur should be penalized at all. Many people already said that they support Jarkur's vid, and it's only fair that it should remain in the vids list AS IS. IT SHOULD NOT lose its votes or anything of sort. It's totally unfair that you removed the video on he basis of someone who just started playing the game. If so, you should remove the votes on all the videos and have a complete re-vote. That'd be fair.
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26-Jul-2014 03:18:04 - Last edited on 26-Jul-2014 03:42:17 by qhi

Poly
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I think Jarkurs video didn't deserve to be penalised like this. As part of the cast that helped work in his video, it is evident that a lot of time and effort has gone into his video.

This obviously paid off after getting into to the top 5 of the gallery. There is a few grey areas with this decision.

Firstly, if Jarkurs video was to be removed, it should have been removed long ago before the top 5 were even picked. I think it's unfair that once his video has made it into the top 5, it's all of a sudden not applying to the rules. That should have been picked up long ago. Once you have a space in the top 5, there shouldn't be any further deletion of videos because those 5 spots are locked in.

Secondly, Surely you guys could have been a bit lenient with the extra time he exceeded considering it was giving credit to those that helped him in the creation of the video. The credits in no way possible had enhanced the video in any way except to the players who were featured in it, who would have already been voting for the video anyway, obviously.

I think dismissing the points off his video was a bit too over mark. Especially considering that the video had already made the top 5. It's very discouraging when you go from having your video in the top 5 with the possibility of wining to having to re-submit your video with zero votes as well as taking the credit out to the people who helped right throughout the video.

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26-Jul-2014 03:44:20

[#T577YPQO8]

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I probably should just let this go… but I will not be bullied.

Kc said:
I only see 2 complaints

WRONG! 4 people complained about the videos, not 2. Please at least try and be accurate.

Kc said:
it'd be different if the WHOLE of the community complained.

WRONG! Right now this community has had only 1-2 people argue to keep the video (if you exclude the others who were actually in the video and so are obviously biased)

Kc said:
Ty for wasting all the time everyone put into the video over a couple seconds of credits.

ClarityHeart said:
i agree with Kufr this is really bull just for a couple of seconds, Jarkur put alot of work into that video and he was showing thanks for everyone helping him make the video just for over a couple of seconds is bull

WRONG! It’s not about a few seconds. There are 8-10 seconds in question. That's nearly a quarter of the allowed time. That's a significant percentage. Its not just about the end credits either – the opening sequence counts just as much. Content is content. For someone who put a lot of effort into the video, why could they not time it correctly and just follow the rules – like the other videos? Is that really too much to ask?

26-Jul-2014 04:03:43

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Kc said:
I'm also going to state, you're listening to a kid that isn't ranked on RS High Scores and he only has 6 forum posts(on this thread). Worst choice listening to kokkor.

qhi said:
It's totally unfair that you removed the video on he basis of someone who just started playing the game.

WRONG! So you are better, or more important than me, because I am new and have not posted before? I guess if my skin colour was different, or I came from a foreign country, that might also make you better than me? Wow – bigotry and hypocrisy in the community! I wasn't the only one to complain, so please stop bullying me. At least I know the difference between right and wrong.
Poly said:
This obviously paid off after getting into to the top 5 of the gallery

It was in the top-5? Do you have access to the actual votes? Number of votes does not correlate perfectly to the number of likes. If it was in the top-5, even more reason for it to be a fair entry that meets all the rules, like the other videos.

Observation: I think everyone who posted support for this video is either in the video, or a member of the same Clan. I guess there is safety in numbers? Oh – and I even see Jarkur is co-owner of Libra-Clan!

26-Jul-2014 04:04:45

Osborne1992

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I'd just like to point out, he wasn't in the top 5... Probably would have been once it ended but he could have infact been 6th! We don't know!

But it does seem a bit much to just remove it entirely... But at the same time, all it really would have took was to put the video into YouTube editor, and clip out the runescape logo start and the black screen at the end. It would have been 55 seconds roughly.
Only bad bit at that point would be the "#WishYouWereInRuneScape" that appears in what I'd say is the credits 10 second spot.
But there's not much point going on about it still... Mod JD said that this is his final word on the matter.

Jarkur had, probably a full 24 hours at least to do that. Didn't require a r*upload, just a quick edit in YouTube. But he didn't. Maybe he was busy IRL but it'd only take about 10 minutes tops. But I guess, while this Kokkor guy seems to have just popped into existence to complain, it WAS against the rules as it is...

I don't mean to come across as a bad guy for saying that, so don't get the wrong idea. Despite it not being that good to ME as the concept is 6 years old. It is a good video. Definitely would have required a lot of work. But whatever the reason... those extra 8 seconds have caused an unnecessary amount of conflict.

26-Jul-2014 04:05:24

Kc
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Osborne1992 said:
I'd just like to point out, he wasn't in the top 5... Probably would have been once it ended but he could have infact been 6th! We don't know!

But it does seem a bit much to just remove it entirely... But at the same time, all it really would have took was to put the video into YouTube editor, and clip out the runescape logo start and the black screen at the end. It would have been 55 seconds roughly.
Only bad bit at that point would be the "#WishYouWereInRuneScape" that appears in what I'd say is the credits 10 second spot.
But there's not much point going on about it still... Mod JD said that this is his final word on the matter.

Jarkur had, probably a full 24 hours at least to do that. Didn't require a r*upload, just a quick edit in YouTube. But he didn't. Maybe he was busy IRL but it'd only take about 10 minutes tops. But I guess, while this Kokkor guy seems to have just popped into existence to complain, it WAS against the rules as it is...

I don't mean to come across as a bad guy for saying that, so don't get the wrong idea. Despite it not being that good to ME as the concept is 6 years old. It is a good video. Definitely would have required a lot of work. But whatever the reason... those extra 8 seconds have caused an unnecessary amount of conflict.



I agree, Jarkur seems to have been busy IRL. Kokkor really did pop up just for the complaint, jagex does value membership subscriptions *h ;)? I Think Jarkur should be allowed to keep his video AND Votes. Just give him the chance to quickly youtube edit the video. & @ kokkor, just cause we are in video, doesn't mean we aren't the community. We have a fair vote and say in everything.
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26-Jul-2014 04:10:54

ClarityHeart
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[#T577YPQO8] said:
Kc said:
I'm also going to state, you're listening to a kid that isn't ranked on RS High Scores and he only has 6 forum posts(on this thread). Worst choice listening to kokkor.

qhi said:
It's totally unfair that you removed the video on he basis of someone who just started playing the game.

WRONG! So you are better, or more important than me, because I am new and have not posted before? I guess if my skin colour was different, or I came from a foreign country, that might also make you better than me? Wow – bigotry and hypocrisy in the community! I wasn't the only one to complain, so please stop bullying me. At least I know the difference between right and wrong.
Poly said:
This obviously paid off after getting into to the top 5 of the gallery

It was in the top-5? Do you have access to the actual votes? Number of votes does not correlate perfectly to the number of likes. If it was in the top-5, even more reason for it to be a fair entry that meets all the rules, like the other videos.

Observation: I think everyone who posted support for this video is either in the video, or a member of the same Clan. I guess there is safety in numbers? Oh – and I even see Jarkur is co-owner of Libra-Clan!


No one is bullying u Korkkor

26-Jul-2014 04:11:09

Rebral
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Very sad to see Jarkur's video removed.

The video did go over the allowed time and has already been removed for that so I understand that discussion is closed on that point. But with only two days left in voting, resetting the votes on the video is essentially a disqualification. I hope that part could be reconsidered.

I'll say upfront that I am friends with Jarkur and participated in the video but I genuinely believe this is the most fair solution.

26-Jul-2014 07:26:33 - Last edited on 26-Jul-2014 07:27:41 by Rebral

MoonSparkles

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No one deserves to be punished for hard work but everyone HAS to follow the same rules for fairness, it's what RuneScape is all about. This could have been completely avoided if the rules were simply followed. Please try to put yourself in the shoes of those who put in the same amount of work but did follow the rules.

Four other people in the competition complained about the video, not just Kokkor. Don't think so little of Mod JD that he would only consider the opinion of one person.

Maybe rules wasn't read properly or was given bad advice? Not my place to assume, but sorry to all those who are clearly upset but being at least understanding about it.

Btw, I want to point out, don't assume anyone based on likes is in top 5. Votes is what counts. Unless someone has some inside info we don't? It's obvious people still don't understand the rules or how this all works. It makes me kind of nervous people are 'matter of factly' stating he was in top 5 as these competitions can easily be rigged. No one knows who top 5 are, but statements are being made that he was, this makes me very uncomfortable.

I liked the videos I thought were good, but didn't mean I voted on them (although I did vote for some).

Besides, we all know this is a competition of popularity which means I have lost before it even started. I simply just don't know enough people to gather votes every day. There are good videos that will not make it through who are in the same position and it's a shame, that's why I'm voting for them as well. Anyone who deserved a vote got one from me, simple as that.

26-Jul-2014 12:49:18 - Last edited on 26-Jul-2014 21:10:56 by MoonSparkles

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