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Nexus Origin

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Which rules take precedence in forums, the Code of Conduct, or the Terms & Conditions?


I'm still waiting for an official response from Jagex regarding this question.



P.S. I expect now that everyone got their derailing, accusations, and spamming out in the last thread, you will all stick to the thread topic, which is specifically the question asked above.

Thanks.
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12-Feb-2019 16:13:24

Nexus Origin

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Interesting.

I think you're the only one so far who has thought the Code of Conduct takes precedence in the forums. Everyone else who responded seems to be under the impression that the Terms & Conditions take precedence.
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12-Feb-2019 16:37:55

Mod Poerkie

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It's not up to me to officially state which one, if one takes precedence. So it's very unlikely you will get an answer to your question.

Both apply and you should adhere to both, that is the most important.

In the case this thread derails or turns into a place to harass each other lock the thread please.

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12-Feb-2019 16:53:15

Mexk
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Out of genuine curiosity, what are you seeking to accomplish here?

What will either answer enable you to conclude?
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12-Feb-2019 17:02:26

Nexus Origin

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Mod Poerkie said:
It's not up to me to officially state which one, if one takes precedence. So it's very unlikely you will get an answer to your question.
Okay, so, who can officially answer the question of which one takes precedence?

Mod Poerkie said:
Both apply and you should adhere to both, that is the most important.
Oh. Well that's... confusing. How can I adhere to both? They have contradictory rules.



The Terms & Conditions states that user content:
must not include hyperlinks or connections to third party websites;


While the Code of Conduct states:
If you post links or images make sure they are safe for your fellow forumers.



How can both of those apply at the same time?

One of them must take precedence over the other.
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12-Feb-2019 17:10:04

Aeroxmaster

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@Mexk - according to OP, this isn’t something they previously wanted to disclose, however this may change as the conversation develops or Jagex staff get involved.

All in all, the original question has already been answered by Demither, me, Lnkmiegel and various other users. It is just that OP is waiting for / expecting a JMod answer to the question.

The follow up question to Poerkie was also addressed in the original thread, but again it appears that the questions are mainly for Jagex to answer. There is no way to “help” OP as a player as such.

Might I suggest that if OP genuinely has a question as above and if Jagex do not answer, that they consider writing to their offices if the answer is of such importance and that it is believed that players are unable to sufficiently answer the question?

There did actually used to be a law email address you could email for questions about the Terms. This has since been closed to only law enforcement though as far as I’m aware.

You could also attempt to contact Customer Support for an answer to such questions. The forums are public for everyone to participate, within the boundaries of the Terms. For specific one on one communication with staff to answer a question, Customer Support can usually forward on the enquiry to the appropriate department to ensure a timely response.

12-Feb-2019 19:03:22 - Last edited on 12-Feb-2019 19:05:24 by Aeroxmaster

Nexus Origin

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Perhaps you should read Porkie's response in this thread Aeroxmaster.

He's clearly stated that he cannot officially answer the question, but has stated that both the T&C and the CoC apply. However, as you can see in my post above, this cannot be true, as they are contradictory. One of them must take precedence. They cannot both apply if they have contradictory rules.
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12-Feb-2019 19:14:34

Aeroxmaster

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I had read it already before replying. I said that the point you raised in response to his post was specifically already addressed prior to this new thread being created.

I’m not going to repost it here, but that’s purely because I don’t want an argument to start out or anyone to get upset again. This was definitely addressed already though, just not by JMod forum post here recently. I’d only repost if I’m sure you were happy wit that, but I’d suspect you might consider it thread derailment (though I do disagree based on how Jagex have previously taken care of these forums; their constitution of thread derailment etc).

Poerkie is absolutely correct in that both apply, and Demither was also correct. The contradictions are addressed in the Terms themselves but yes as I said, I’d advise contacting Chstomer Support or writing to their offices if you’re intent on a JMod response (if one doesn’t come within the next 4 weeks or so).

12-Feb-2019 19:30:12

Nexus Origin

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Dude, as long as you're not going to be making accusations, or derailing the thread, then I welcome your input on the topic.

If you wish to try and explain how both the T&C and the CoC can apply at the same time, while having contradictory rules, by all means, I welcome it.


Aeroxmaster said:
This was definitely addressed already though, just not by JMod forum post here recently.
Which JMod addressed it? It wasn't Poerkie, as he literally said: Mod Poerkie said:
It's not up to me to officially state which one, if one takes precedence. So it's very unlikely you will get an answer to your question.
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12-Feb-2019 19:35:52

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