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Yeah I'm all for it. It seems like there are a lot of sections, especially for someone brand new. It even confuses me sometimes o_o
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08-Aug-2017 22:25:08

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I think categorising forums by group (macrosection) is a great idea. The current forum grouping is a big higglety pigglety at the moment – I think it's been an after thought for the past few years, done in a lunch break when something needed to be removed or added, and it shows – and even the way you organised each individual section I think is an improvement.

When I came back I found that the Introductions forum had been removed, and others had been merged, which I reckon was a good idea considering splitting things by level/type is unnecessary when there are so few people who use the RSOF on the daily, but still things could be cleaned up as you've demonstrated.

I agree with Vera that your open macrosections should be cookie-ised in your browser so you don't have to open certain ones every time. There's nothing more annoying than that! As someone else also said, a fixed layout would be annoying for, example, people who only play OSRS. I would also suggest that while the order you have suggested may be the default, an "Edit Forum" feature that allows you to drag-and-drop to re-order not the sub-forums in the macrosections but the macrosection groups themselves – Special, RS, OSRS, RSC, Lounge, Community Support.

The one thing I'm the most unsure on is the View All Sections | Hot Threads | New Threads | New Jmod Threads bit within each macrosection on the main forum page.

While I like the idea of having features for hot threads, new threads, and new Jmod threads, I'm not sure the placement where you've suggested is the most effective. Would, for example, "New Threads", compile all new threads from all the sub-forums in that macrosection? So The Lounge's new threads would be from Comm Home, G&A, Off Topic, etc, all in the same list? While I reckon macrosections is a good idea, I think that the content in each of the sub-forums is specific enough that having them all listed in one big list is not particularly helpful, if you know what I mean?
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15-Aug-2017 10:43:32

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Sorry if I sounded a bit blunt in that post... I ran out of characters and was trying to fit everything in one post but here we are with a second post anyway!

I feel that as well as Number of Threads | Number of Posts | Last Post At for each sub-forum in the macrosection, there could be an additional section or two... the ones you suggested in different 'tabs': Newest JMod thread | Newest Thread. Now obviously this only shows one of each, but that may be enough. JMods don't post that often, and if they do, it's mostly sticky threads. Do we need a potential list of 'new JMod threads' that are actually a few months old?

Hot topics is a bit different. There used to be a Featured Thread feature way back when, or something of the sort. I feel that would work better for a Hot Topics section. :)

Okay, posting this quickly before someone else posts (it'd be just my luck) and separates the two of my posts that were meant to be one! O_o BTW a great amount of effort has gone into this obviously so kudos to you.
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15-Aug-2017 10:49:20 - Last edited on 15-Aug-2017 10:50:19 by Post

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Thanks for the support Murda and Pinta, and for the many comments there Post (they were not blunt at all) :)

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The drag and drop feature you suggest would be a nice feature as part of the icing on the cake if this ever happens, good shout. I'll add it to the front page tomorrow.

Regarding the hot, new and jmod threads, they would indeed only show threads from within that specific macrosection. While it would be a jumble, as you say, the aim would be to just give a general overview of new stuff - the forums mostly move slowly so I think it would be better for them to be grouped in this case, both so you can check back relatively regularly and find new stuff, and so you get to see a greater variety of threads. If you want to see what's new/hot in a specific section there's no real need to add a feature anyway, you usually just need to see what's on the first page. Instead of having to open every section and check for new/hot threads, you could just open up the grouped area once.

New JMod threads could be a bit stagnant, true. Although I'd hope that could be an incentive for them to make it less stagnant ;) However, I don't feel just having a timestamp for new threads would be all too useful. Perhaps an improvement could be having 'Threads with new JMod posts' rather than 'New JMod threads'? That would see more activity.

I don't think I was around when featured threads existed, but I'd wager part of the reason they were removed was due to the choice being too subjective and JMods having to manually choose threads regularly. A hot topic system would be superior I think because it requires no manual work after it's set up, and choices would be made objectively by the algorithm. This would also allow hot topics to be refreshed continuously, rather than having to wait on the next time a JMod has time to survey all the forums and pick a feature.
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15-Aug-2017 23:49:51

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Fair point about simply checking the actual forum you're interested in for new and/or hot threads in that particular forum. How many threads do you think should show up in your idea of the hot/new threads tab in the macrosection? 10 ish?

"Perhaps an improvement could be having 'Threads with new JMod posts' rather than 'New JMod threads'? That would see more activity."

This I very much like, as opposed to whole lists of JMod threads which may be a little stagnant. :)

And yes, hot topics were manually picked, which led to them being never updated and their eventual removal.

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20-Aug-2017 06:25:12

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To be honest, if the Web Devs showed a little gold crown next to the thread post count or something, showing that a JMod has posted on the thread, much like how Reddit does at the moment, it would be really good and possibly bring more people back here.
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07-Mar-2018 12:17:35

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Calm Enigma said:
It would be nice to have 'Hot Threads', 'New Threads' and 'New JMod Threads' options too for people who don't want to spend time browsing every section to see what's new and interesting.


These among many other things that most forums have which this one does not that need to be added, in my opinion, to bring a lot more people to the forums. Hopefully at least some of the above suggested features will make their way to the forums.

11-Mar-2018 12:47:13

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