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Turksta

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Zara said:
Unfortunately, it was stated that the pet would be only available for a
limited time
so I don't think it's coming back. There's a Fire Drake though similar to the Shadow Drake which is still available for purchase.
Yet that alone indicates that it will likely return just like all those limited time only content.

11-May-2017 15:44:58

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Draco Burnz said:
Blackwing said:
Just buy the fire drake and let the game keep what is left of its integrity.


Exactly.

Dont see how this is so hard to understand...
What about the newly rereleased dragon ceremonial and queens guard outfit? Surely Blackwing is against that too.

12-May-2017 09:03:55

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Zara said:
I know what you mean, however the Shadow Drake was explicitly said to be a limited edition legendary pet. The dragon ceremonial was discontinued with time as there was always something new coming in Treasure Hunter. That is the only reason there is a fire drake in the first place for those who were not able to get hold of the Shadow Drake.
Well neither means that it's gone forever. I mean discontinued just means it's not available for the time being, hence "dis"continued, and limited time just means it's available for a certain period of time.

13-May-2017 14:33:46

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Blackwing said:
Turksta said:
What about the newly rereleased dragon ceremonial and queens guard outfit? Surely Blackwing is against that too.

Of course I am, did you expect something different?

I didn't own those outfits prior to this promo, and nor will I own them after it's over.
Why? I mean you seem to be a collector of these types of items so why not given everyones given a chance to get it. I myself aren't after it because to me it's simply not worth spending money on but i know there are more dedicated collectors.
Draco Burnz said:
Turksta said:
What about the newly rereleased dragon ceremonial and queens guard outfit? Surely Blackwing is against that too.


Dont see why you even needed to ask...

His stance on these things is "it's a mistake and shouldn't be repeated etc" but Jagex clearly thinks otherwise as they've repeated this supposably "error" many times.

13-May-2017 14:52:16

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Blackwing said:

Those outfits are dead now. I held some respect for them, given their age and what they meant at the time they were first released, but the meaning is gone.

How so? In 2 days or so those who own the outfit will only be those who originally obtained it and those who spent a lot of money to obtain the outfit. The outfit seems to be dead only to you. Otherwise it's still the same outfit.

Blackwing said:

Cheaters, lurers, scammers etc. also think what they're doing is fine, so should we also let them do as they please, simply because they think different than we do? It doesn't matter what you try to justify for lies; you're still a liar if you lie.

Also, I still believe that we could "guide" Jagex towards being honest again, by voting with our wallets and not buying into mistakes like this promotion. But for some, the feeling of missing out is too strong to do so.

Ok well comparing a jagex promo to cheaters is a little bit overboard don't u think? And as far as i'm concerned besides the first few times of claiming things will never return, they just state that their sold product is a "limited" time only thing so really they didn't lie, it's your fault for thinking one thing means another. I have no sympathy for those who hoarded their banks on mimic capes for example. Everything has a risk to it.

Again the amount of people "voting with their wallets" will encourage Jagex themselves to do more of it. Do u remember when people on the forums were like "don't buy into their promos so they will stop it," well guess what? It's gone the opposite direction. They're simply doing more and more of it as of recently. And why should they stop? The whales of the community generate more income than the majority of players. But hey, on a business point of view you only do whats best for your profits.

14-May-2017 02:08:31

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"You missed the whole point. The limited edition was the selling point of the pet, again that's the only reason there is a Fire Drake in the first place."
Yea and rerelease it for a 2nd time and have the profits from the first release and the 2nd release.

"They can release it over and over again and it wouldn't bother anyone."
It clearly bothers people i.e the few posters above me.

"Shadow Drake is from Solomon Store and Ceremonial is from Treasure Hunter. TH items have returned again and again, I wouldn't be surprised to see more of them."
They're both forms of mtx. Just because things from treasure hunter have returned more often doesn't mean solomons items can't return. Just look at the shadow dragoon outfit. That has returned and was described as "limited time only". Furthermore, look at TH items like samid's gloves, and the first alchemist amulet or the zodiac events, have they returned? No.

15-May-2017 14:59:17

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Zara said:
So you arguing here would increase the chance of it getting returned? When have people said they wanted Shadow Dragoon outfit? If Jagex feels the need to re release it, they will.
Of course people are against re releasing items that have been said to be limited edition, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out. Pointless conversation.

I mean because one limited time solomons item has returned, there's always a possibility that the drake or gorilla etc can return for a second time right? When have people said they wanted the dragoon outfit? Hmm not as much as the amount of people who want the shadow drake itself, there's no doubt about that. I'm not against rereleasing limited time items so yeah, not everyone is like that.

Zara said:

OP has been answered accurately from the information that was provided by Jagex to the players, if it was certain that it is indeed going to return I would have said otherwise and by judging the title I don't think this thread was up for discussion.

Even though it doesn't even matter I'll say it, both Samid Gloves and Alchemist amulets bring GP into the game, and people don't want that. It's been only a year since the Zodiac event.
Ok.

19-May-2017 08:41:06 - Last edited on 19-May-2017 08:42:23 by Turksta

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Sintacks said:

Not trying to start something here, but you supported bringing back Dragon Ceremonial, doesn't that contradict your point a bit? I do agree about untradeable holiday items not coming back, but I feel it's fair game when it comes to untradeable TH and Solomon's cosmetics.
Exactly. I bet he would be so happy if he got another chance to obtain the santa suit or christmas wand.

20-May-2017 11:08:56

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Draco Burnz said:
Turksta said:
^whats pc?


Exactly what you're doing.

OT: if drake ever comes back, hopefully all discontinueds get rereleased.

Yes that means holiday, sgs and every other type.
I'm still lost but ok. I'm fine with everything returning. They're all cosmetics that no one even uses after two weeks.

22-May-2017 00:57:16

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Draco Burnz said:
Turksta said:
I'm still lost but ok. I'm fine with everything returning. They're all cosmetics that no one even uses after two weeks.


Yep just because you never see any one w/ old cosmetics = they never get used...

Ok.
How many people do u see use snow globes or wear the chocatrice or web cape?? First 2 weeks of the event you see it get used. After that nobody really uses it. Ofc there might be a few elites out there who despite never wear or care about it they act as if they do and pretend it was some valuable precious thing. And even if they do love it sincerely, it's not worth discontinuing these items for everyone just to keep a minority of players happy about their exclusivity. I'm pretty sure many people would cherish the snow globe 99% more than current owners if given a chance to obtain it.

That being said, thats about holiday items, about the shadow drake specifically okay it was advertised as being limited time only and at the time many people thought limited time = only chance, but recent limited time promos suggest otherwise.

22-May-2017 12:29:11

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Draco Burnz said:
Zyphix said:
The game only loses integrity when selfish people don't want other players to enjoy game content, even limited time content.


You can enjoy it though.

It you who chooses not to by not logging on in time, so dont see how its anyone elses fault if you miss out?
Wrong. A player has no ability of having a choice when they know nothing about a game. It's only when they get introduced to the game they have choices in what they get.

If i really wanted a 1970s game but wasn't born until the 1990s would you say it's my fault for not being born at the time to buy the game while it was still available?

22-May-2017 12:33:15

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Draco Burnz said:
Turksta said:
How many people do u see use snow globes or wear the chocatrice or web cape??


Well due to the fact im hardly on atm due to being bored of rs, i cant answer.

Again though, just because you dont see ppl in the areas you're in not having certain items on, doesnt mean ppl on different worlds or areas arent using them.
Exactly, so your opinion on whether item X should return or not shouldn't even matter in the first place given you don't play the game as much. Hence a newer player who just got into the game would definitely make better use of those dead pixels in your bank/ diango


"It's not worth discontinuing these items for everyone just to keep a minority of players happy about their exclusivity. I'm pretty sure many people would cherish the snow globe 99% more than current owners if given a chance to obtain it. "

Again for the majority part of players, they just dump their rewards into diango and continue their normal gameplay.

23-May-2017 02:20:12

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Draco Burnz said:


Iirc, wasnt this past christmas event reward a snowglobe?

So if ppl missed out on that, sadly they can live w/o.
Yea but exactly how long till another new player or veteran without the snow globe returns and complains about not having it and how they deserve one given everyone got another chance to get it.

Draco Burnz said:
Well sadly, we cant have everything we want.
You can always try to though. You yourself asked for the dragon ceremonial outfit to return and your wish was granted ;)

23-May-2017 12:09:26

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Draco Burnz said:
Turksta said:
Yea but exactly how long till another new player or veteran without the snow globe returns and complains about not having it and how they deserve one given everyone got another chance to get it.


They can complain all they want, doesnt mean they should get it.

You clearly have seen how much ive wanted wand, yet have they rereleased

Why shouldn't they be able to get it? It's a fun holiday item that offers no ingame bonuses + the snow globe has already returned meaning everyone who "shouldnt" have it, have it. So that negates any reasoning on why anyone doesn't deserve it.
As for the wand, just be patient and ull get it or a similar item for christmas one day.

24-May-2017 01:46:53

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