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M8OK
Nov Member 2018

M8OK

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"We work closely with communities"

This is the phrase used by Jmods loosely over the last few years on several live Q&A's.

There are many active communities that operate and exist for various reasons throughout OSRS. I am directly involved in the
largest, most active and longest standing
to my knowledge, and have been for the past 12 years. The fact that this community has been running for 15 years while maintaining 500-1500 active participants across a minimum of 3 events per week is remarkable and to think they've done all of this with the very bare minimum of jagex intervention/help makes it even more impressive.

If you haven't guessed by now i am talking about the pure clanning scene. I didn't disclose the word "Pure" until this far in because it will no doubt deter a good portion of you reading this which has become obvious by any poll result targeted towards these accounts. This should not devalue the original paragraph, rather highlight that this community has also maintained such titles all be it with the majority of the mainstream community showing little respect to the scene.

I personally have only seen a JMOD reach out once over my 12 years and this was in game.
Mod Mat K
Appeared in game to see why Fatality was not attacking Mayhem Makers during a Pure Clan Cup. Mayhem makers had 15-20 126 combat mains in their fall in which was pointed out to Mat, Where he replied with "Stop complaining and go". This was the final time Fatality chose to compete as it was clear how out of touch Jagex had become with their most successful community.

Every weekend over 500 players from various clans head to the wilderness, It's the same time and day it has been for the last 15 years. Great battles and rivalries have been forged over decades of activity within this scene and the fact that this isn't common knowledge is frightening.

06-Feb-2019 09:58:30 - Last edited on 06-Feb-2019 10:04:16 by M8OK

M8OK
Nov Member 2018

M8OK

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Noticeable Decline


The scene has thrived for over a decade but has begun to stagnate. The start of the 2019 year saw the closure of arguably the largest and most successful pure clan OSRS had seen while still pulling 100+ people to official f2p Saturday and p2p sunday trips. Thankfully a new clan has sprung up but i fear next time the scene will not be blessed with a "Get out of jail free card".

More and more people are leaving the clanning out of frustration. Whether that be the discrimination against pure builds as if we are to take a back seat in the old school community, despite possibly being the most involved and the most invested. Or frustration out of rival clans recognising ways to exploit the pure v pure weekend trip format for their own advantage. Either way i feel like this could be avoided if jagex were in fact
"Working closely with communities".



This is about more than just chaps.
Over the past few years there has been some discussions between jmods and "Community leaders" whether it be via sharkbrew boards or elsewhere. Sadly these were not effective or just to show face as nothing has come of it. There are times where Jmods need to make an exectuvie decisions as
lead game developers
and you must as yourself whether or not giving 1 def builds access to colored chaps is game breaking. If you were genuine in your approach, this never gets polled. These are the small things that can be discussed and critiqued by the people i feel jagex should be talking to. Again, This is not a rant about getting chaps. This is about the mindset Jagex approaches our community with, The largest, most active and longest running community runescape has ever seen.

06-Feb-2019 09:58:38 - Last edited on 06-Feb-2019 09:59:18 by M8OK

M8OK
Nov Member 2018

M8OK

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In Conclusion


The purpose of this topic is to hopefully bridge the gap between the J mods who love talking about reaching out but never do. It is also to shine a light on what tens of thousands of pure's have involved themselves with over the last 15 years and have contributed to making our niche scene so unique and special.

As it stands there is still an active and healthy community. Multiple clans are pulling 100+ members to trips twice a week and a handful vary depending on the day between 60-90. With a good chunk of the player's considered veterans of the scene it would be great to bring new faces in. A small discussion with anyone from jagex may just be the defining factor that brings the clanning scene back to the height we saw it at pre eoc.

I believe that jagex already have the resources to contact various people among our community and i feel they should approach us directly once in a while to hear our frustrations and talk about our hopes for our community and what we need to thrive. If not feel free to contact me directly and i can help in any way i can to bridge that gap. Jmods are smart enough to recognise how changes impact us. They are also smart enough to know which changes for us do not impact the main game.

My biggest hope is that we are recognised as something that may need nurturing soon. Open the discussion up with us instead of letting reddit decide what happens to pures. Alot of us have been doing this for over a decade competitively and passionately and
we know what's best for our scene
, not reddit. What may seem like a small tweak for the main game may be crucial in ours. We are all adults and jagex have said themselves they would love to be able to poll community specific changes purely to those communities, well this is a start.

06-Feb-2019 09:58:43 - Last edited on 06-Feb-2019 10:17:30 by M8OK

Notcool97
Dec Member 2016

Notcool97

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M8OK said:
More and more people are leaving the clanning out of frustration. Whether that be the
discrimination
against pure builds as if we are to take a back seat in the old school community, despite possibly being the most involved and the most invested. Or frustration out of rival clans recognising ways to exploit the pure v pure weekend trip format for their own advantage. Either way i feel like this could be avoided if jagex were in fact]"Working closely with communities"
If voting against something is 'discrimination', PKing someone must be a hate crime. Get a grip.

06-Feb-2019 11:26:26

Iron Robsham
Aug Gold Premier Club Member 2018

Iron Robsham

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When you limit the definition of "community" to groups of people participating in regular events using clans, then sure pures may be the largest. But that's clearly not what Jagex normally means when they refer to communities in general. Pretending it is is really just a transparent attempt to portray pure clans as being far more significant than they really are.

M8OK said:
Every weekend over 500 players from various clans head to the wilderness, It’s the same time and day it has been for the last 15 years. Great battles and rivalries have been forged over decades of activity within this scene and the fact that this isn’t common knowledge is frightening.


And every weekend hundreds of thousands of players don't. You think it's frightening that people haven’t heard of your small group? Get over yourself. The overwhelming majority simply do not care about PKing in general, never mind the rivalries of some weekend pure clans.

Then we get to the usual next step of the “I’m special” mindset; "Everything I want that will never pass a poll in a million years is an integrity issue!". Yawn.

It’s obvious you care a great deal about what you are saying, but ultimately you’re just asking for special treatment (catering, if you like), for a tiny minority of the player base.

Apologies if this response sounds overly harsh, but your whole perspective reeks of the superiority complex that runs rampant through the PKing community, and it really rubs me the wrong way.

Edit: Actually no. No apologies. I just reread your posts and the level of conceit is mind blowing.
"Everything I want that will never pass a poll in a million years is an integrity issue!" No. Get over yourself.

06-Feb-2019 11:49:17 - Last edited on 06-Feb-2019 12:35:59 by Iron Robsham

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