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Mirza123

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Iron Robsham said:
I've never understood the seemingly quite widespread belief that every single change that happened to the game between 2007 and EoC is RS3 and therefore bad, no matter how good, or small, or insignificant it was. Sure, the overall direction was definitely very bad, and there are some massive updates that can be pointed at as being the harbingers of RS3 (summoning). But is a new pub in lumbridge really game breaking?

I suppose it depends on how much you value the nostalgia factor. Personally, I play this game because I love what it is right now, not because I'm trying to replicate something from over a decade ago for the sake of nostalgia.

Even back in the day, RS was never a static, unchanging world, and in my mind OSRS shouldn't be either. Instead it should be a new branch from a point before RS2 went to shit, that is developed in the right way, as RS2 should have been from the start.

Edit: though I agree with you about the drop tables. IMO Jagex should default to making them weak, and then try to bring them up with slight incremental buffs, rather than releasing them strong and then reacting to the shit storm.


How is Summoning a harbinger or RS3? This is nonsensical, the skill and the game were still tough to play years after its release and years before EOC.

09-Feb-2019 16:13:49

Iron Robsham
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Mirza123 said:


How is Summoning a harbinger or RS3? This is nonsensical, the skill and the game were still tough to play years after its release and years before EOC.


Summoning made large parts of the game, especially PvM, significantly easier, to the extent that it basically became compulsory to play the game properly.

I mean, if I proposed doubling the size of the inventory to 58, but keeping all of the bosses and PvM stuff balanced exactly as it is now, everyone would think I was insane. But stick it in a skill and make it Yak shaped and suddenly it's not broken? nty.
Anyone that wants catering to make ironman easier should be renamed wannabe-man and have their ironman icon replaced with a dunce hat.

09-Feb-2019 18:01:01

Clawdragons
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Iron Robsham said:
I mean, if I proposed doubling the size of the inventory to 58, but keeping all of the bosses and PvM stuff balanced exactly as it is now, everyone would think I was insane. But stick it in a skill and make it Yak shaped and suddenly it's not broken? nty.


I mean I do agree with you about the Yak, but also, it's not like totally game-breaking effects for skills that barely affect your combat level are anything new to Runescape. At least the Yak required a high level.

Let's be real: any other game, the idea of Protection Prayers would be laughed at. Don't get me wrong, I think Runescape has managed to work around them pretty well over the years, and actually turned them into something worthwhile, but let's not pretend ourselves about how much effort those required to work around.

09-Feb-2019 18:22:23

XIRang3mag3I
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Clawdragons said:
Iron Robsham said:
I mean, if I proposed doubling the size of the inventory to 58, but keeping all of the bosses and PvM stuff balanced exactly as it is now, everyone would think I was insane. But stick it in a skill and make it Yak shaped and suddenly it's not broken? nty.


I mean I do agree with you about the Yak, but also, it's not like totally game-breaking effects for skills that barely affect your combat level are anything new to Runescape. At least the Yak required a high level.

Let's be real: any other game, the idea of Protection Prayers would be laughed at. Don't get me wrong, I think Runescape has managed to work around them pretty well over the years, and actually turned them into something worthwhile, but let's not pretend ourselves about how much effort those required to work around.
IT is game breaking because you can camp GWD all day with the yak. Hell even a summoning that increases the 28 slots we have by any amount takes away the grind and makes soloing bosses incredibly easier.

09-Feb-2019 18:32:19

Str8cashjigg

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Mirza123 said:
Iron Robsham said:
I've never understood the seemingly quite widespread belief that every single change that happened to the game between 2007 and EoC is RS3 and therefore bad, no matter how good, or small, or insignificant it was. Sure, the overall direction was definitely very bad, and there are some massive updates that can be pointed at as being the harbingers of RS3 (summoning). But is a new pub in lumbridge really game breaking?

I suppose it depends on how much you value the nostalgia factor. Personally, I play this game because I love what it is right now, not because I'm trying to replicate something from over a decade ago for the sake of nostalgia.

Even back in the day, RS was never a static, unchanging world, and in my mind OSRS shouldn't be either. Instead it should be a new branch from a point before RS2 went to shit, that is developed in the right way, as RS2 should have been from the start.

Edit: though I agree with you about the drop tables. IMO Jagex should default to making them weak, and then try to bring them up with slight incremental buffs, rather than releasing them strong and then reacting to the shit storm.


How is Summoning a harbinger or RS3? This is nonsensical, the skill and the game were still tough to play years after its release and years before EOC.


Just because it was hard for you doesn't mean it was hard for anyone else. People were afking GWD until they hit the 6 hour logout timer and occasionally checking for a rare drop. Git gud nubnub. L2PvM. Jagex ignores these comments, because they don't cater to failures who cry when they expect the inferno to be a joke like the Fight Kiln and when they think that every new raiding challenge is gonna be piss easy like dungeoneering. If anything, that only makes them wanna ramp up the difficulty to piss off nubnubs.
The ditch is gonna get endless repolls while sand buckets can pass the first poll and never be implemented. After the ditch passes the 7th poll attempt, it'll be implemented an hour before the poll closes because it's actually important. Deal with it.

09-Feb-2019 19:02:34

Str8cashjigg

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Iron Robsham said:
Mirza123 said:


How is Summoning a harbinger or RS3? This is nonsensical, the skill and the game were still tough to play years after its release and years before EOC.


Summoning made large parts of the game, especially PvM, significantly easier, to the extent that it basically became compulsory to play the game properly.

I mean, if I proposed doubling the size of the inventory to 58, but keeping all of the bosses and PvM stuff balanced exactly as it is now, everyone would think I was insane. But stick it in a skill and make it Yak shaped and suddenly it's not broken? nty.


Why do you bother reasoning with certain people? You need to understand that this is the community that didn't wanna nerf 6 hour afk methods. They obviously don't know what's good for game integrity. They'll just do whatever they can to lie to themselves and get easyscape.
The ditch is gonna get endless repolls while sand buckets can pass the first poll and never be implemented. After the ditch passes the 7th poll attempt, it'll be implemented an hour before the poll closes because it's actually important. Deal with it.

09-Feb-2019 19:07:03

CaptKoloth
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Summoning made Kiln way too easy. It made it so people could camp bosses with Yak. Clobber stuff with Steel Titan. Made Slayer tasks easy with Bunyip. Nope made game way too easy in many ways. Though I actually loved it.

22-Feb-2019 19:36:25 - Last edited on 22-Feb-2019 19:37:05 by CaptKoloth

hexin_triln
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I'll be retiring from the game tonight.

Why play osrs when you can just watch a speedrun of castlevania or dark souls online? I honestly feel that for each update Jamflex are just getting drunk and watching speedruns of castlevania.

Thanks for the few good memories this game has provided.

No thank you for the widespread toxic attitudes, scamming and caring more about twitch, youtube and similar media coverage.

22-Feb-2019 20:42:01

yugi muto007
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we have super energy potions and stamina potions dude so plz no resting feature thats an rs3 thing, the game felt too easy for me with it and it will make things to easy for me now, i perfer the run feature the way it is.

23-Feb-2019 18:18:07

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