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zizga46
Dec Member 2018

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The wilderness is supposed to be a place for PKing-so why is every update for it meant to lure helpless, innocent skillers and PvMers there to die? Wilderness bosses, revenants, black chins... the list goes on and on.On safe wilderness worlds, the wilderness is like any other area, where other players cannot attack you.
To counterbalance this:
-less points for wilderness slayer.
-less black chinchompa xp rates.
-no more extra revenant loot whilst skulled.
-chaos altar is now equal to gilded altar
-slightly nerfed drop tables for EVERYTHING(like 15% less loot).
-This one shouldn't be taken too seriously, but "wanderers"-red revenant-things that only you can see, as their Lv is based on yours.Like Pkers, but they won't loot your drops if you die and can be warded off with a brecelret of etherum
-let me know if I forgot anything!
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18-Feb-2019 01:27:36 - Last edited on 19-Feb-2019 00:38:25 by zizga46

TBowSpawnPls
Nov Member 2018

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No wilderness related uniques. Troll: A person that holds an opinion other than the most popular opinion on a forum, apparently**
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18-Feb-2019 01:46:58

Emperor Dupe
Feb Member 2019

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zizga46 said:
The wilderness is supposed to be a place for PKing-so why is every update for it meant to lure helpless, innocent skillers and PvMers there to die?

It's been like that since it was released in 2001, & you're only helpless if you decide to be, & somewhat to blame the Dev-team for making Magic accuracy O.P.
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18-Feb-2019 01:52:58

FisherGaming

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zizga46 said:
The wilderness is supposed to be a place for PKing-so why is every update for it meant to lure helpless, innocent skillers and PvMers there to die?
Because PKing (and PvP in general, but specifically PKing) is the least popular activity in the game, and so few people participate in it that PKers have to consistently petition Jagex to add more non-PvP content into the Wilderness so PKers can actually have some more victims to kill and steal from.

Otherwise they'd have to actually fight other PvPers, and they don't want to do that because they're not actually any good at PvP, so they have to rely entirely on PKing people who can't fight back properly.

zizga46 said:
To counterbalance this:
-no wilderness slayer.
-no black chinchompas, or at least nerfed xp rates.
-no more extra revenant loot whilst skulled.
-no chaos altar.
-slightly nerfed drop tables for EVERYTHING.
-let me know if I forgot anything!
So basically no reason to go there. Seems rather pointless.

People want to be able to do the best non-PvP content without having to deal with PvP. You're not really fixing that problem by taking away PvP and the non-PvP content that people want to do.

The problem that needs solving is not being solved by this suggestion at all if you're taking away the content people want to do. Now if they want to do that content, they still have to go to worlds where PvP is enabled, which defeats the purpose.

Very poorly thought out.

No support.
There'd be no need for 3rd party clients if the default one was decent. I vote no to all non-PvP Wilderness updates, and yes to all PvP Wilderness updates. If you want to revive the wilderness, encourage players to PvP, not lure them to the Wilderness to be victims.

18-Feb-2019 02:07:17

TBowSpawnPls
Nov Member 2018

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FisherGaming said:
zizga46 said:
The wilderness is supposed to be a place for PKing-so why is every update for it meant to lure helpless, innocent skillers and PvMers there to die?
Because PKing (and PvP in general, but specifically PKing) is the least popular activity in the game, and so few people participate in it that PKers have to consistently petition Jagex to add more non-PvP content into the Wilderness so PKers can actually have some more victims to kill and steal from.

Otherwise they'd have to actually fight other PvPers, and they don't want to do that because they're not actually any good at PvP, so they have to rely entirely on PKing people who can't fight back properly.

zizga46 said:
To counterbalance this:
-no wilderness slayer.
-no black chinchompas, or at least nerfed xp rates.
-no more extra revenant loot whilst skulled.
-no chaos altar.
-slightly nerfed drop tables for EVERYTHING.
-let me know if I forgot anything!
So basically no reason to go there. Seems rather pointless.

People want to be able to do the best non-PvP content without having to deal with PvP. You're not really fixing that problem by taking away PvP and the non-PvP content that people want to do.

The problem that needs solving is not being solved by this suggestion at all if you're taking away the content people want to do. Now if they want to do that content, they still have to go to worlds where PvP is enabled, which defeats the purpose.

Very poorly thought out.

No support.
So you're saying that people want to do pvm/skilling in a pvp area but without the pvp? Sounds a bit ridiculous, lol. This is a very easy way to solve your issue. It's just rebalancing due to the lowered risk. If you're saying that people want high reward for zero risk and to make everything campable, then I'd hope you're just trolling. Hopefully players don't want to ruin osrs.
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18-Feb-2019 02:11:31

FisherGaming

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TBowSpawnPls said:
So you're saying that people want to do pvm/skilling in a pvp area but without the pvp?
No. People don't want the best non-PvP content to be in a PvP area in the first place.

TBowSpawnPls said:
If you're saying that people want high reward for zero risk and to make everything campable
Nope. As usual, you have completely missed the mark.

Risk does not mean PvP. There are ways to implement risk without it being PvP. People don't want to be forced to deal with PvP just to do the best non-PvP content. It's NON-PVP content, for god's sake.
There'd be no need for 3rd party clients if the default one was decent. I vote no to all non-PvP Wilderness updates, and yes to all PvP Wilderness updates. If you want to revive the wilderness, encourage players to PvP, not lure them to the Wilderness to be victims.

18-Feb-2019 02:19:37

TBowSpawnPls
Nov Member 2018

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FisherGaming said:
TBowSpawnPls said:
So you're saying that people want to do pvm/skilling in a pvp area but without the pvp?
No. People don't want the best non-PvP content to be in a PvP area in the first place.

TBowSpawnPls said:
If you're saying that people want high reward for zero risk and to make everything campable
Nope. As usual, you have completely missed the mark.

Risk does not mean PvP. There are ways to implement risk without it being PvP. People don't want to be forced to deal with PvP just to do the best non-PvP content. It's NON-PVP content, for god's sake.
The best non-pvp content isn't in a pvp area? A couple of things require a little bit of time in the wilderness, but these are all 100% optional and not required. Hell, ToB and CoX are the best pvm content in the game and are not in the wilderness. Black chins are balanced around pvp, black salamanders are balanced around pvp, what else is there? A cape that is balanced around obtaining it in pvp areas?
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18-Feb-2019 02:24:06

FisherGaming

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TBowSpawnPls said:
The best non-pvp content isn't in a pvp area?
You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Bye.
There'd be no need for 3rd party clients if the default one was decent. I vote no to all non-PvP Wilderness updates, and yes to all PvP Wilderness updates. If you want to revive the wilderness, encourage players to PvP, not lure them to the Wilderness to be victims.

18-Feb-2019 02:34:24

Draco Burnz
Dec Gold Premier Club Member 2011

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FisherGaming said:
zizga46 said:
The wilderness is supposed to be a place for PKing-so why is every update for it meant to lure helpless, innocent skillers and PvMers there to die?
Because PKing (and PvP in general, but specifically PKing) is the least popular activity in the game, and so few people participate in it that PKers have to consistently petition Jagex to add more non-PvP content into the Wilderness so PKers can actually have some more victims to kill and steal from.

Otherwise they'd have to actually fight other PvPers, and they don't want to do that because they're not actually any good at PvP, so they have to rely entirely on PKing people who can't fight back properly.

zizga46 said:
To counterbalance this:
-no wilderness slayer.
-no black chinchompas, or at least nerfed xp rates.
-no more extra revenant loot whilst skulled.
-no chaos altar.
-slightly nerfed drop tables for EVERYTHING.
-let me know if I forgot anything!
So basically no reason to go there. Seems rather pointless.

People want to be able to do the best non-PvP content without having to deal with PvP. You're not really fixing that problem by taking away PvP and the non-PvP content that people want to do.

The problem that needs solving is not being solved by this suggestion at all if you're taking away the content people want to do. Now if they want to do that content, they still have to go to worlds where PvP is enabled, which defeats the purpose.

Very poorly thought out.

No support.


Agreed.

No support from me as well.
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18-Feb-2019 02:47:44

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