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Little Teddy

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Does anyone know what exact technique's or wich npc's knows what technique's are used for creating the white and black knight equipment.

Been digging around and all i can find is that its steel equipment that gets treated with special technique's to give it its respective colour + added strenght.

I don't need the technique's per say i was just wondering if theres actually a known npc who knows about them (clearly someone must know cause where the hell is all that equipment coming from otherwise.) If there is a npc he doesn't necesarly have to speak up about it.

*Put this in the lore thread cause i guess it's about the lore of asgarnia and the white and black knight order apoligies if its in the wrong thread. (and if anyone knows its probs u lore hounds out there)
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01-Aug-2016 22:57:17 - Last edited on 01-Aug-2016 22:57:57 by Little Teddy

Kittyphantom
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No one specific we know of. But you're right, they have to be coming from somewhere. "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you[...]For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

01-Aug-2016 23:10:14

Allarla
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Hm, how about comig from that "dwarven black iron ore" that we could get from Evryn (and had to hand over all of it to Ivar :P) back in the autumn of 2013? That could explain black armour. Too bad its "counterpart" was starlight ore and that makes the starlight and starfury armour, otherwise we could have white armour explained too. :P :)
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02-Aug-2016 01:44:46

Kittyphantom
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Maybe the Knights of Falador have it smithed on contract by the dwarfs of Ice Mountain. Originally it was provided to them for free by the Clan Imcando, the master smith Saradominist dwarfs, until the clan's near-extinction at the hands of the barbarian runecrafting crusades...

The few remaining sets of high-quality Imcando-smithed armor are reserved now for the Temple Knights, as the newly manufactured armor, being made by less capable dwarfs, is inferior in quality (though still sturdier than plain human-forged steel).

The Kinshra, meanwhile, have to rely on less willing sources of labor. Such as the dwarfs they have locked up in one of the torture-cells in Taverley Dungeon.
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02-Aug-2016 02:15:14 - Last edited on 02-Aug-2016 02:22:04 by Kittyphantom

Sepulchre
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My guess is the Dwarves have an armour they make we don't know about. Probably made of coal and silver ores. The only difference is one is mixed to be black like the coal, and one is mixed (and probably touched up) to be white like the Silver. A
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02-Aug-2016 06:43:59

Little Teddy

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Imcando dwarves meaning that the dwarf that sells the smithing cape knows of the technique's most likely? and i know years ago i thought white armour was blurite armour, thats not a thing then or might they just slip in some blurite to colour the steel bright white??


Again thank you for those who responded
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02-Aug-2016 10:23:35

Aleks Leye
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I always just assumed it was coloured steel, or enamelled steel rather than some "unique metal". Its only slightly better than regular steel, after all.

Not to mention we can decorate steel and rune helmets and shields. Whose to say black and white armour isn't achieved in a similar fashion?
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02-Aug-2016 13:42:11 - Last edited on 02-Aug-2016 13:45:11 by Aleks Leye

Kittyphantom
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Little Teddy said:
Imcando dwarves meaning that the dwarf that sells the smithing cape knows of the technique's most likely? and i know years ago i thought white armour was blurite armour, thats not a thing then or might they just slip in some blurite to colour the steel bright white??


Again thank you for those who responded


Sorry, let me clarify, most of my post there is just theory/headcanon. The Imcando are/were a Saradominist clan of master smith dwarfs, we know the Knights of Falador gave them a gift of Superheat Item runes at some point, and they *were* nearly wiped out by the crusading barbarians. But the idea that they made the knights their armor isn't canon, just something I came up with. (Also my idea for why Temple Knight armor is stronger than regular white armor) (Although as we know from The Knight's Sword, Sir Vyvin's ancestral sword *was* made by the Imcando)

(Also the Kinshra - the black knights - really do have dwarfs locked up in a horrible torture cell in Taverley Dungeon, but they aren't the only innocents to be imprisoned there, and there are probably too few of them to be making all that black equipment)
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02-Aug-2016 14:53:04 - Last edited on 02-Aug-2016 14:58:12 by Kittyphantom

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Probably the same way a player can make a black helmet....with paint. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

02-Aug-2016 16:09:54

Voya
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Well, Thurgo is the person who told that black/white metals are just coloured forms of steel (postbag 41), so he could know something about them.

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White and black metals are actually just coloured forms of steel, created by differing forging techniques, but resulting in metals of equivalent strength.

Iron and 'normal' steel (i.e. not black or white metal) have magnetic properties, while all other metals in common use have diamagnetic properties - enough to 'throw off' Ava's device (e.g. if you're wearing metal armour). There must be something in the process of black and white steel colouration that removes, or drastically reduces, steel's magnetic properties.
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02-Aug-2016 16:26:02

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