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Solanumtinkr
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*Puts on theory cap*

Here I was wandering through the lastest Lorum posts and caes when something occurred to me...

In Meg's most recent case we identify our bones and a doll that looks like us, how often do we see our bones? We recognised Bones' bones and his scimitar without ever having seen or met him. This isn't the first time, it's a regular occurrence, and the examines on things would indicate that we know things that we shouldn't be able to.



There are other similar things. Lucky events. Our ability to link things together, whether event items or NPCs to help, to achieve a desired result. We can discover things long lost and travel back in time when others have failed to achieve much in the same line. We respawn when others cannot and it has been noticed. We're nosy, meddle and discover things that no would ever have found otherwise. We learned everything we can for Master level skills and are just moving into the specialist and Elite skills that others take a whole lifetime to achieve, yet we bound along throwing epic amounts of cash and drive to complete them.

We can do this anywhere and any when. So it is us and not localised. People have noticed and we've even had our very own stalkers.



Yet at first, nothing would seem to connect all of these things. Yet I disagree with that.



There is something that links everything together. Binds it. Changes and drives it. Life generates it and it effects everything around it. And sentient life generates the most of all. There is one thing that links it all together and I think we instinctively read this and use it for insight and to generate those chance events that leads us to the truth. It comes in many forms and is a critical part of magic.



Anima. Did you know mancy means to talk to?



Everything points to possibility of an unexpected truth, we're Gielinor's first full fledged Animancer!

And that little nugget would explain everything^_^
The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
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29-May-2016 10:32:12 - Last edited on 29-May-2016 10:50:18 by Solanumtinkr

Solanumtinkr
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Have you got your own theory, however whacked out, let's hear it!

Are we the first Animancer, or have their been others?


And no I didn't call it Animamancy as it was too much of a mouthful :P

Solanumtinkr said:


I think we might be far enough along with Divination and such that we can take it a step further. What we need right now could be new villains, using the skills they have learned from Divination and such in new and twisted was. And I am talking abut the ability an manipulate Anima, wherever it is, in a similar way to how mages would use magic. Of course the problem being that magic may not be of any help defending against it in its present state. In fact hybrid armour might be the only option in that case, or it could they finaly discover the source of "typeless" attacks..

Point being the 'bad guys' could show that the skill we've learned have been epically under utilised. Not that they would share. But I think they might make for some nasty customers.
The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
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29-May-2016 10:32:53 - Last edited on 07-Aug-2016 09:32:29 by Solanumtinkr

Maiden China
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I used to think Guthix brought us here from another world to save Gielinor from stuff without directly intervening and gave us a ton of (sort of hidden) power that we used to do all this. If we died, he'd resurrect us and remove all (or most) of the evidence we ever died and if we had some issue with something, he'd help us without revealing himself

and that ended when TWW happened and guthix became just a noob-god* like the others, a sleep god who's not even active in the world at all, and a dead god... who's... dead

*a noob-god, to me, is a god who has far more power than a human has, but isn't in any way better or smarter or wiser and has most of the nonphysical weaknesses humans have
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29-May-2016 10:42:50 - Last edited on 29-May-2016 10:43:32 by Maiden China

Solanumtinkr
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Well maybe Guthix realised what we are and decided it was time to get out of the way. It could have been the very event he was waiting for. It could also be what Sliske sees in us as well, and not his professed interest in the chaos we generate, as he only sees us as a pawn to push around the board. Pawns don't cause chaos and their moves are very predictable.

I wonder what would "train" such a....well I wouldn't call it a skill exactly...an innate ability. Would it be over all skills and abilities or would you have to divert xp from other things into to do so?

Just out of curiosity into how NPC* would boost their own innate abilities and how the Player would do the same thing.

And I think the old Spirit Tree guardian might qualify as an Animancer of a kind, maybe?
The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
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29-May-2016 11:25:41 - Last edited on 29-May-2016 11:28:51 by Solanumtinkr

Solanumtinkr
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I think this work with Anima has been done to some extent before, but I don't think it has been looked into with any depth. Well it wasn't exactly the most widely known force before the death of Guthix anyway. Simply due to people not know how to ask the right questions. Now every man and his dog knows what anima is due to the death of Guthix and the foundation of the Divination skill. The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
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29-May-2016 22:29:06

Nolhiir
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Technically, -mancy is derived from mantia, which means divination.
Thus, x-mancy is divination of a specific kind.
That said, I'm very disappointed that you used the term animancy, given that I myself was using it for something completely unrelated to Runescape.

That said. I'm not sure I like this "Chosen One all along" type trope. Why couldn't I have been a regular, insignificant adventurer prior to the sixth age?
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30-May-2016 01:15:43

Solanumtinkr
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I wouldn't call it chosen as such, there have been others. I think...None of the others got off their backside to do anything though. We're the only one to run at it head on and bull through whatever gets in our way.

The Spirit Tree Guardian tended to look after the Anima Mundi and its connection. So more like Sally in Idle Adventurers really . She's an obvious upgrade though lol.

If there was such an entity, I always wondered if we were a disappointment to that entity. Their first human version goes for the throat of the problem, rather than fixing things. It probably thinks we're a rabid loon.:P

But at the end of the day you work with the cards you're dealt.
The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
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30-May-2016 08:14:57 - Last edited on 30-May-2016 08:35:25 by Solanumtinkr

Lord Remus

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I quite like this idea and Animancer is kind of catchy.

As for what could influence this ability you've mentioned could simply be over-exposure to magical artefacts and areas that we have come across during our adventures.

We have visited places such as Zanaris and been affected by it's magical atmosphere to some extent as well as the magic of the fairy rings.

We have the more obvious things like the Stone of Jas and Guthix's bestowel of power.

There are possible things such as the close proximity to the ritual site when the Mahjarrat were rejuvinated, something that could have had a small effect we wouldn't notice on it's own.

We've also participated in many rituals, received several blessings (and curses) and been through many a portal.

Cutting it short, all these things alone may not have been responsible for this "Animancy" but by being exposed to so much may have brought it about.

What do you think?
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30-May-2016 20:27:56

Solanumtinkr
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And canonically most of that would have happened in the 5th Age, so anything in game would be 6th Age and at the point we already have it to some degree. Which would also explain the conversations in Ashdale. We wouldn't need to have been chosen like some think, we'd have got their under our own steam.

I like that explanation.:)
The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
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30-May-2016 20:33:29

Maiden China
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Nolhiir said:
That said. I'm not sure I like this "Chosen One all along" type trope. Why couldn't I have been a regular, insignificant adventurer prior to the sixth age?
don't really like that either... the wg bit is... okay-ish, since it's not an omnipotent omniscient being choosing you
except when it's iluvatar and he chooses you to be the ringbearer because lotr is sacred
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31-May-2016 08:02:00

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