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Hallinskithi
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We have never seen Prince Anlaf or King Vallance. That is already strange enough, but why?
Why have we never seen the monarchy of Asgarnia when we have met other monarchs?

I suggest that the white knights have stolen the throne for their Saradominist cause.

Most people already know that King Vallance's ancestor, King Raddalin, the first king, accepted the then leader of the Kinshra as a friend, most people including the White Knights who were obviously Saradominist, hated this. What if, this order of knights wanted to end this line after years of grudge?

Anlaf is likely alive as in the last year of the 5th age he opened his private games room.

Vallance is said to have fallen deathly ill and can no longer appear in public.

And who was left in charge?

Not the King's relative, Miazrqa.

Not Anlaf.

Sir Amik Varze, the Leader Of The White Knights.

It makes far more sense to stick to the royal family than replace it, does it not?

This is clearly suspicious, more so than Sliske giving christmas gifts! (METAPHOR)

Next post for reasonings...

22-Aug-2016 20:19:45

Hallinskithi
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I propose that High King Vallance was poisoned by the white knights to claim control over Asgarnia to make it a Saradomin Controlled City that would seek to Zealously claim control over surrounding regions that did not hearken to their beliefs.

Lets look at the facts.

We have a usurper order of knights who immediately place their leader in Vallance's place after he conveniently falls deathly ill.
We have an incognito Crown Prince who has FULL right to the throne of Asgarnia, yet never claims it.
We have a Guthixian colony of Dwarves in Asgarnian territory.

Wait, what?

The Dwarves have main control over the resources mined in the caves, coal, iron, tin, copper. Dwarves control the supply of mithril and adamantite in the Mining Guild.
We know from Aeonisig Rasphier, King Roald Remis III's Advisor, that in the book, Legacy Of Blood (Unknown Canon or not.), that he believes that Saradomin created the Edicts of GUTHIX. (Clue is in the name buddy) In the same book, he is put in charge of an inquisition to purify the city of....Non Saradominists.

If Saradominists can be so uptight and stupid, what if the white knights are the same? Sir Owen Sonde, a temple knight hero clearly shows, the incurable disease, of Zealot-ism.
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Sir Owen originates from Falador and is a Temple Knights, an offshoot of the White Knights commanded by Saradomin himself.
Back to the dwarves, they are an opposite belief to Saradomin, and although it was in a book, we know, how far Saradominists will go to exort their Authority.

This is why the white knights took over Falador. This is why we never see Vallance. He was snuffed out of his rightful throne, by a group of religious zealots... The sad part is Anlaf knows full well about the white knights, and probably does not really know what happened to his beloved father, after he left for Burthorpe.

Could we see an Imperial Guard uprising?Could Anlaf march into his proud city's gates and be denied, then attack? We will see.

22-Aug-2016 20:33:05 - Last edited on 22-Aug-2016 21:37:31 by Hallinskithi

Lethalintent
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It's obvious that's what they've done. In typical Saradominist fashion you save face publically but behind the scenes you'll do anything, subjugate anyone, break any and every law you see fit to force things to go your way.

Why do you think Analf, the one who should be ruling Falador took refuge in Burthorpe in the first place?

They won't let him take power away from them, which is pretty much all they've ever cared about.
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22-Aug-2016 20:33:34 - Last edited on 22-Aug-2016 20:46:50 by Lethalintent

Solanumtinkr
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This subject has been brought up before. Not that I am complaining about this thread. not in the least. I just need a while to scratch my head and try and remember the names of the threads:P


Edit: It fell off page 50 and got eattn by Chewy, or so it seems!
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22-Aug-2016 20:39:04 - Last edited on 22-Aug-2016 20:43:33 by Solanumtinkr

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Well there has been a suggestion that there is a clique within the White Knights ranks (yes I count the Temple Knights ect amongst them!). This clique was hinted at having a plan involving research into the Sea Slugs and slipping agents into every place of power they could around the world. With the laudable goal of taking over Gielinor for the greater Glory of Saradomin.

This almost hidden subplot within the White Knight's series story was brought up short when Salt in the Wound was rushed out as a conclusion.

There is also the plot against Prince Anlaf. During the troll invasion of Burthorpe, it was said that the Prince's Imperial Guard was faced with a funding cut, as the white Knights held the purse strings of Asgarnia.

Now it was said that the White Knights (Sir Amek Varze) took over ruling at the behest of the king,; they said he was sick. Yet only one person was allowed to see him at all. Sir Amek Varze. Now under the Asgarnia constitution (?) the Prince is the one who is supposed to take charge in a situation like that. They said the Prince was welcome to see the king....alone. This was after rumour of assassination attempts which have seen the Prince in hiding ever since.

Now the idea of the funding cut was to disband the Prince's Imperial Guard, leave Burthopre defenceless, to get eatten by trolls, so they could then ride in as the heroes to save the day!
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22-Aug-2016 20:55:35

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In the letter from Kind Raddalin, it has now come to light that the Saradominist faction went out of their way to destroy the reputation of the Black Knights, to get rid of any and all competition, (getting the Void Knights,the Guthixian, military arm, banished to Taverly). and finally drive the Black Knights out of Falador altogether. All they would have needed at that point was to get rid of the Prince, declare the King dead, and Asgarnia would have been their's.

Now the letter is out there, and you have to understand that Asgarnia is a real smelting pot of numerous tribes and faiths. A successful King could never be too biased to one tribe or trouble could quickly ferment. The White Knights leadership took action, that the Letter from King Radalin would show them to be responsible for the whole mess. And that the Black Knights were the victims of an elaborate Saradominists plot, and not the perpetrators at all.

That one letter has the potential to destabilise the whole powder keg the Kingdom is and have it blow up into a full scale civil war. Not just a couple of sides either , from the sounds of things. But a nasty multiway brawl.
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22-Aug-2016 21:08:48

Solanumtinkr
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There is rumoured to be a prophesy for new ruler to rise, wielding the Banner of Radalin (or whatever) Well, not quiet a rumour since we know exactly where it is(if you took part in the Invasion of Falador events).


There is also a lot of things that the fanatics claim Saradomin created or did, that have no baring on reality at all. And the Saradominists have been seen to lay on as much propaganda as it takes to achieve a result until even the targets of it believe it.


Still, there is something very off, going on behind the scenes. We'll get to the bottom of it eventually.
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22-Aug-2016 21:15:30

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The signs of Saradominist conspiracy seem to show there may have been similar events going on at Teragard. If Saradomin was a kid growing up in that kind of environment, and tried to apply a sense of decency to it (most humans have good intentions whatever their actions), it may be that the Magisters have concocted a plethora of conspiracies that tower over anything in Asgarnia. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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22-Aug-2016 21:22:16

Hallinskithi
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Sorry, forgot to put this detail in the 2nd post,

The dwarves, as i said, have full material resource control, so they are the final arbiter on how much gear the White Knights have, they, to the white knights, are a threat.
From what we know about Saradominist Zealots like the White Knights, they may one day take the fight to them. We will see.

22-Aug-2016 21:39:19

Hallinskithi
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Solanumtinkr said:
In the letter from Kind Raddalin, it has now come to light that the Saradominist faction went out of their way to destroy the reputation of the Black Knights, to get rid of any and all competition, (getting the Void Knights,the Guthixian, military arm, banished to Taverly). and finally drive the Black Knights out of Falador altogether. All they would have needed at that point was to get rid of the Prince, declare the King dead, and Asgarnia would have been their's.

Now the letter is out there, and you have to understand that Asgarnia is a real smelting pot of numerous tribes and faiths. A successful King could never be too biased to one tribe or trouble could quickly ferment. The White Knights leadership took action, that the Letter from King Radalin would show them to be responsible for the whole mess. And that the Black Knights were the victims of an elaborate Saradominists plot, and not the perpetrators at all.

That one letter has the potential to destabilise the whole powder keg the Kingdom is and have it blow up into a full scale civil war. Not just a couple of sides either , from the sounds of things. But a nasty multiway brawl.



Exactly, the black knights are evil. Sure. Zamorakian, sure. But they are the victims.

22-Aug-2016 21:40:08

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