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It should be a requirement for something, trimmed comp most likely, but if there are no lore, then it shouldn't be a requirement for MQC. So I actually agree with Hazeel for once, too.
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07-Sep-2016 20:08:58 - Last edited on 07-Sep-2016 20:38:46 by Lynxlynx

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N7spongy said:
Hazeel said:
General Rule: If it doesn't add lore it shouldn't be added to MQC. So no.
There are already bosses we have to kill for the cape that dont add lore.


I won't say that I don't belive you, but can you give an example?
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07-Sep-2016 22:23:22

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Hazeel said:
Lynxlynx said:
N7spongy said:
Hazeel said:
General Rule: If it doesn't add lore it shouldn't be added to MQC. So no.
There are already bosses we have to kill for the cape that dont add lore.


I won't say that I don't belive you, but can you give an example?


Kiln. Makes absolutely no sense, honestly, but there it is.


Of course. Thanks, forgot that.
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07-Sep-2016 22:32:47

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Wahisietel said:
I don't get why people argue that a harder version of the most iconic quest boss of all time shouldn't be on the cape.

Quests are not just story, they are also gameplay, and the original Nomad fight is one of the most iconic pieces of quest gameplay in the game. For many of us, pre-EOC Nomad's Requiem was our final challenge before we obtained the original quest cape.

After EOC made him a joke, we've not really had anything close to the difficulty Nomad was back then, and when things DID approach that difficulty, they got nerfed (TokHaar-Hok, Grimsson/Hreidmar).

We're obviously never going to get a tough boss required for the quest cape again, but now we have an opportunity to give the master cape something to rival the original, pre-eoc Nomad in terms of difficulty. As questers, we should embrace this. The master cape should be more than a grinding and RNG cape, there should be some actual challenge involved, just like the original quest cape.


okay, i'm not maxed or anything like that, i don't have any good gear, i'm not good at bossing, but come on! Wouldn't you call Nomad from Nomad's Elegy a hard boss?

Sorry Wahi, usually I agree with you, but not this time :(
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08-Sep-2016 14:51:33 - Last edited on 08-Sep-2016 14:51:48 by Lynxlynx

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Hazeel said:
Lego Miester said:
Mod Shauny said:
Hey all,

We're looking to gauge feedback related to the addition of Nomad Hardmode in September and should it be added to the Master Quest Cape requirement or not.

Note: This update adds no new lore.

Let us know what you think :)


He's tied to the miniquest, right? Of course he should be a req.


He is? I mean if it's required to beat the mini quest, then yeah I can support it, but I thought HM Nomad was completely seperate from the quest, hence the lack of lore.


Well, they said:
"To keep the blood flowing, we’re dropping in a Tale of Nomad: a mini-quest that delves deeper into old scarf-face’s motivations and choices. For those who prefer to stab Nomad in the back than chat to his front, we’re offering a hard mode - just in case he wasn’t homicidal enough. The Nomad’s Elegy boss will be repeatable, demanding and rewarding, with a soul cape for those who defeat him."


So i guess that's a no to the question if the hard mode are tied to the miniquest.
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10-Sep-2016 22:27:05 - Last edited on 10-Sep-2016 22:33:09 by Lynxlynx

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ironpariah said:
My first answer is No.
I think I need a clarification.

I know Nomad's getting his own tale.
We have to talk to them.
There is apparently a fight.

But do we absolutely have to fight him hard-mode in order to complete the tale once? or is the hard mode a post tale reward?


Lynxlynx said:


Well, they said:
"To keep the blood flowing, we’re dropping in a Tale of Nomad: a mini-quest that delves deeper into old scarf-face’s motivations and choices. For those who prefer to stab Nomad in the back than chat to his front, we’re offering a hard mode - just in case he wasn’t homicidal enough. The Nomad’s Elegy boss will be repeatable, demanding and rewarding, with a soul cape for those who defeat him."


So i guess that's a no to the question if the hard mode are tied to the miniquest.


Well, you can decide yourself what you want to make out of this, but i at least think that means that it's either post tale or not involved with the tale at all:)
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12-Sep-2016 15:28:05 - Last edited on 13-Sep-2016 18:13:24 by Lynxlynx

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Lopendebank3 said:
I actually think yes. Master quest cape has to few really hard requiments, and current questbosses are rather weak.


Nomad... just Nomad..... :|

By the way, why should the MQC have really hard boss requirements?
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13-Sep-2016 18:11:13 - Last edited on 13-Sep-2016 18:13:38 by Lynxlynx

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