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So I have wondered this quite a while now, why are some of the elves black?

In real life skin color is a result of evolution, where vitamin D levels determined how human skin color evolved. So whats the difference between white and darker skin? In dark-skinned people, eumelanin is dominant and acts as a natural sunscreen; pale skinned individuals have much more pheomelanin. However, while pheomelanin produces vitamin D efficiently, its reaction with high levels of UVB also makes dangerous free radicals, which damage skin cells over time. Its a bit more complex then that, but that's the short version of it.

But does evolution take place in Runescape one might ask? Well what evidence do we got for such assumption? Well if we look at the map and examine the people in Gilenors different regions, we see the same kind of humans and animals we expect to find in the real world at similar places. As an example, many people have darker skin at Karamja, we find animals that typically live in jungles there.

Why are some elves black and most of them white? All elves originated from Tarddiad, right? And we have been to Tarddiad, it seems like its not a environment that have allot of UVB radiation, in other words its not a very hot environment. And judging from the inhabitants of Tarddiad they all seem to be white skinned, so its kinda safe to assume the black elves originated on Gilenor then.

But then it gets really crazy cause the elves have pretty much stayed at the same place for thousands of years, namely in Isafdar. And Isafdar don't seem to be a very hot place at all, judging from their choice of clothing its safe to assume that its not warm enough there to evolve black skin. So why are some elves black? I have no clue......
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26-Aug-2015 15:08:22

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Kemtros said:
It's because black people exist in the real world and there's really no reason for why Jagex shouldn't include them.


But there are several black characters that actually makes sense in runescape. Like Bob for example who owns Bob's brilliant axes. It's not so hard to imagine people traveling around and moving to different regions. So a black man owning a shop in lumbrige makes perfect sense. However black elves does not make sense. I would like them to make sense, but they dont.
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26-Aug-2015 15:55:13 - Last edited on 26-Aug-2015 17:43:15 by TokHaar Gol

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Cthris said:
Remember that Seren experimented on the elves for ages, which according to that book you get from running laps on the agility course, immensely changed their appearance. I reckon the inconsistent pigmentation stems from that. Nice question :)


That actually makes sense, I will have to get my hands on that book tho. Thanks for your answer!
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26-Aug-2015 22:54:11

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Cthris said:
Remember that Seren experimented on the elves for ages, which according to that book you get from running laps on the agility course, immensely changed their appearance. I reckon the inconsistent pigmentation stems from that. Nice question :)


Which chapter in the book, I can't manage to find it =S

Pantamalion said:
Other than Haluned and Eluned are there any nonwhite elves? If not maybe it has something to do with being a shard of Seren


There are several in Prifddinas just walk around a bit and you will find them.
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27-Aug-2015 00:47:54 - Last edited on 27-Aug-2015 00:48:25 by TokHaar Gol

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Midwyn said:
Why is this such a big deal to some of you? In fact, the mere fact that it does bother you makes you racist. It's a fantasy game. There's elves, centaurs, goblins, ogres, bird people, talking animals, zombies, demons (this list could go on for ages) and you're complaining that black elves don't "make sense"? Why shouldn't there be black elves? (Actually, don't respond to that because there isn't a single answer that wouldn't make you sound like an offended "not-to-be-racist-BUT-[insert racist comment]"-kind of person.)

Saying that it isn't realistic isn't a valid argument because elves living in a city of magical crystals isn't realistic in the first place and that's that. What difference does it make? None. Oh wait, yes, it does. It adds representation and a touch of common sense to the game. Elves may not be human but they're humanoids and your whitewashing fantasies shouldn't, and do not, belong here.

Wouldn't be surprised if next you're going to complain that it doesn't make sense to have female werewolves since the name is an Old English compound of the words were (human male) and wulf (wolf).


Dude, Im asian in real life. I have been bullied because of my race. I have experienced real racism. Don't throw out false accusations and water down the word racism. Because this is simply not racism. I don't have a problem with black people, I simply wondered why there where black elves. I have studied biology, evolution, evolutionary psychology, genetics and biochemistry. With that knowledge I simply thought it was illogical that some elves where black. Especially when everything els in Runescape seems to follow the principles of evolution. However some people in the post have supplied me with very satisfactorily answers and Im happy I did post this thread, so I would learn those answers.
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27-Aug-2015 13:27:43

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Hguoh said:
Well, we've only seen one small section of Tarddiad, so it's entirely possible that there are other areas where black skin would benefit them evolutionarily. Heck, some trees might be releasing a ton of uv rays and we'd never know. Or maybe elven skin color has a different evolutionary benefit to human skin color.

Many possible answers, but none are definitive.


That's a interesting theory, I can see how the crystal trees and crystal... everything could radiate UVB. However there are no black elves in the Tarddiad area that the player got to explore. But since its only a small part of Tarddiad we got to explore, its still possible. This lead me to a strange revelation however.

What if Eluned and Haluned are black because their crystal singing is different and somewhat more potent then other elves crystal sining, since they are a pat of Seren. May be they make the crystals radiate some king of UVB when they crystal sing (since crystals refract light and crystal sining is essentially a way to change the structure of crystals)? That would explain why Seren created them with darker skin.
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27-Aug-2015 14:09:39 - Last edited on 27-Aug-2015 14:14:04 by TokHaar Gol

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