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iXavior

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Ordinary humans get magic from runes. Mahjarrat get it from their life force and have to recharge it during every Ritual of Rejuvenation. Elves get it from Seren's crystal. Fairies use portal magic. The Gorajo are born with "currents of magic rippling" through their "bodies." Where do the moonclan get their magic from?

Here is a quote from Baba Yaga:

"They destroyed only the entrances to the altars, for the altars themselves were on a different plane, but they were successful in wiping out our ability to create runes.
(meaning they once needed runes back then to use magic.
That ability has only recently been rediscovered on the mainland, so I hear. Our people were left isolated on Lunar Isle but we used it to our advantage. Our control over Magic advanced beyond the need for runes and all knowledge of the altar locations passed from memory."

Their control of magic they say? Then how come extremely powerful mages who have great control over magic like Archmage Sedridor and Dahmaroc (the legendary wizard who enchanted the Completionist Cape) are still handicapped with the need to use runes?

I don't think it has anything to do with their history with the Stone of Jas. Only V has been known to touch the stone. If the moonclan really did touch the stone of jas to evolve their magic capabilities, the dragonkin would have exterminated them all by now.

Any theories? Discuss
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04-Jul-2015 03:18:57 - Last edited on 29-Aug-2015 03:38:51 by iXavior

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They invented rune crafting, and practiced it so much over so many generations that they no longer need the medium of runestones, nor do they need to separate the steps of rune crafting and casting a spell.

04-Jul-2015 03:41:32

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I think it's entirely to do with their control over magic. They may not be the most powerful mages individually, the ones you mentioned ranking up with them, but it's not all about power, but understanding, it's been their way of life for ages, relying so heavily on magic on every-day life. Now that the V quest is out we've got it 100% confirmed (although it was already becoming extremely obvious) that V found the Stone of Jas/founded the Moon Clan much, much more before the 5th age rather than previously thought, which would have been the beginning of the 5th age - what began the 5th age.

So the Moon Clan have also known how to use magic for a lot longer than most mages in Gielinor today - magic, as far as it goes, was pretty much founded on the mainland at the beginning of the 5th age due to being able to have a constant supply of runes, which before then, they were extremely scarce, if almost forgotten about but those whom had their ways of accessing them.

Sedridor might be a good mage, but his lineage of wizardy can only go so far back a little over 160 years, whereas the Moon Clan would have dated back to whenever V found the stone of Jas, which was in the 1st or 2nd age.

So perhaps it could also be hereditary, being born of mages for thousands and thousands of years may make you more in-tune naturally with magic than those who well, aren't.
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04-Jul-2015 03:42:31

Barnabix
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Don't forget that the energy left behind by the Stone of Jas can do weird stuff to people.

It was at the Ritual Site for less than a year, and it still effected the area around it.
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04-Jul-2015 06:40:27

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Notice that there is hardly any living plants on the island? Maybe the Moon Clan have been unknowingly (or knowingly) consuming the anima of their island and that is why the island is so barren. In the Hero's Welcome quest, the Moon Clan lady asks all suspicious like she's hiding something when she talks about what it takes for people to ascend. They could very well knowingly consuming anima directly instead of infusing runes.

05-Jul-2015 22:19:58

iXavior

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Michael200 said:
Notice that there is hardly any living plants on the island? Maybe the Moon Clan have been unknowingly (or knowingly) consuming the anima of their island and that is why the island is so barren. In the Hero's Welcome quest, the Moon Clan lady asks all suspicious like she's hiding something when she talks about what it takes for people to ascend. They could very well knowingly consuming anima directly instead of infusing runes.


but when you use magic isn't the magical energy (anima) recycled back into the earth? Like, if you use a fire spell, the combustion energy dissipates into the air back into the anima or whatever. Also, the moonclan live way North. Of course there isn going to be little plantlife. They live in a tundra. At least lunar isle isn't snowy like the rest of the northern islands.
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06-Jul-2015 02:15:16

iXavior

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Well I have a theory. I found this sentence about runes from the official Runescape Wikia (which is now ran and edited by jmods)

"Runes are weightless stones that have been imbued with power and can be used to cast spells. They are the basic catalysts used to train the Magic skill, and
serve as focuses for the innate magical powers of their users.
"

From this, I think runes don't really contain magical energy, e.g, an air rune does not really contain air energy, but rather it is a focus to draw out the user's "innate" anima (or the anima from the environment), "specifically the air energy." This explains why staffs like air or fire has unlimited supply of runes. I think anima is actually a mixture of all the different kinds of rune energy, and the runecrafting altars are just like filters to pull out specific energy from the anima.

As for the moonclan, I believe their constant use of magic in their daily life have finally gotten their brains attuned to how to draw out these specific type of anima directly out of the environment without the help of runes. It's like training wheels for a bicycle. Once you figure out how to balance yourself on a bike, you no longer need them.
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15-Jul-2015 23:07:13

Lego Miester
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Hguoh said:
They invented rune crafting, and practiced it so much over so many generations that they no longer need the medium of runestones, nor do they need to separate the steps of rune crafting and casting a spell.


I think it has to do with weaving magic for so long they have become magical beings. That and the rules of magic are literally make-believe.

You: What, how did you cast teleport spells without runes?
wandering ga'al: Why would you need runes?
You: You just...do!
wandering ga'al: Ohh, I didn't know that.

It's basically the law of Wil E Coyote physics. You won't fall until you look down.
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16-Jul-2015 08:21:42 - Last edited on 16-Jul-2015 08:22:00 by Lego Miester

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